FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.

markodaly wrote: »

That sentance is thus a contradiction



Tell us, what exactly does FG have to lose here?

Another GE, looks like they will gain more seats, via the polls, and the state of the economy given FG are known to be good on this front.

Or... some other government takes shape with SF and FF or some other outcome, FG go into opposition and sit back and laugh when in months to come, all the empty rhetoric about governing dawns on the rookies, while the new cabinet $hit their pants trying to play senior hurling on the home front and in Europe.

I will openly admit that SF are most likely to increase their seat count if there is another GE, but I am adamant that FG will do so as well. I am not a fanboy, I am just realistic.

Well I would have thought the leader of FG would have a better insight than you.

Leo could not be more clear on the radio this morning, in his opinion he said FG would lose heavily in any subsequent general election if they entered government. Obviously he recognises that FG are very much out of favour in the eyes of the electorate. Will they do better if a general election is called if these coalition talks collapse? They might gain a handful of seats at most but will be in no position to coalesce with any party to form a government once its over.

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has admitted that if Fine Gael goes into government again there is a possibility the party could win “only twenty-something” seats in the next election.

“There's huge worry within the party that if we go into government again that we will be a diminished force and the counter-argument that I'm making, first of all, is that it is always the right thing to do by the country to have our party in government, but this does have to be a programme for government that has our stamp on it."

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/varadkar-worried-fine-gael-might-only-win-20-something-seats-in-next-election-1000869.html

Now how FG think they are going to dominate a program for government when the other two parties clearly have the majority of the seats in the Dail is another question that needs to be answered.

What the greens are demanding is going to cost billions, and we all know FF just love to spend money in a Late Late show kind of way where there's a little something for everyone in the audience.
Then add to that the promise of not a SF housing program but something far more ambitious, that will cost far more than the 6 billion SF wanted to spend, being that FF/FG are claiming to do all that SF have proposed in their manifesto and more

i. Prioritise the reduction of family homelessness, providing long-term
secure accommodation for those in emergency accommodation and
preventing new cases of homelessness.
ii. Reduce the cost of land to improve the affordability of housing,
employing all measures up to and including referenda.
iii. Empower and fund the Land Development Agency to build homes on
public and private land, to deliver new homes for affordable and private
purchase, social housing, and cost-rental accommodation.
iv. Prioritise home ownership and affordable purchase schemes, which will
enable more people to own their homes and increase the number of
new social houses.
v. Develop the cost-rental model in all our cities and for student
accommodation.
vi. Create a new deal for renters, which is focused on providing more longterm security, stable and affordable rents, and greater choice.

How are FG / FG going to reduce the cost of land? Compulsory purchase orders? Additional taxation on land sales?

Cost rental accommodations? how are they going to persuade private business to build apartments or homes and then rent them out on a cost only basis.

Cheaper homes for those who wish to purchase? how is that going to work without scrapping stamp duty, subsiding purchase costs, or taxing the bejesus out of those selling properties above a certain price.

There's no way any program for government that involves FF and the Green's is going to have "a programme for government that has our stamp on it." as Leo said. What they have promised a spend fest liek nothing else before, and to do it without raising taxation to boot.
You would either have to believe that any program for government that comes out of coalition talks is going to result in billions of borrowing and not "fiscal responsible" or "keeping the public finances in order" as Leo likes to put it, or that FG are yet again going to renege on promises made to the Irish people.

FG are dead, they want this coalition so bad that they are prepared to promise anything, because the alternative is likely to be that they never get to form a government again. This coalition, if it ever happens, will be the FG swan song,

You dont have to believe me, Leo himself has more or less stated that.

Redgirl82 wrote: »

#notmytaoiseach has 56 followers and less than 2500 tweets. How desperate is that? :P:P:P:P:P

Do you actually understand what trending means? :P

Yes.

The algorithm works out what people are talking about in your country and displays the most popular conversations in you 'trends'.
Two of the trending topics this evening relate to Varadkar.

Redgirl82 wrote: »

This is a good example of the "people" who use #notmytaoiseach

Putting yourselves into a lovely group with this lot.

(person details removed)
Shows what happens when you let a non irish person run Ireland #notmytaoiseach

Get that c**t out #NotMyTaoiseach

No one likes him do they? Bout time ppl woke up to this anti Irish pig #NotMyTaoiseach

Blaaz is neutral in all of this, leave him be:)

Redgirl82 wrote: »

Francie you mentioned the hashtag as some big movement to be proud of. Its just group of racist pigs.

If you are proud of it, that your decision. Rest of the World is disgusted by it

There is racist's and liars and ignorant people everywhere. The point is they can comment on any thread on Facebook or Twitter.

If it helps you ignore all the other comments, work away at the outrage.