Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

wakka12 · 21-05-2020 01:18AM

Onesea wrote: »

The continent of Africa showing 3k deaths in total.

How come outbreaks seem staggered between say the UK and Brazil?

I dont know, why do you think? You often have interesting thoughts on these things.

bb1234567 · 21-05-2020 01:24AM

Of the top 20 countries with the most new cases today, just two are European, France and Belarus. Pandemic has really moved out of Europe

BorneTobyWilde · 21-05-2020 01:44AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Of the top 20 countries with the most new cases today, just two are European, France and Belarus. Pandemic has really moved out of Europe

Not out of UK though. Too early for what they are doing.

But maybe it's looking like virus has run its course. That's how it's looking, as some countries are taking the piss with their social distancing yet cases are still dropping fast.

fritzelly · 21-05-2020 01:52AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Not out of UK though. Too early for what they are doing.

But maybe it's looking like virus has run its course. That's how it's looking, as some countries are taking the piss with their social distancing yet cases are still dropping fast.

Let's hope so then we can get back to normal life and vilifying China or at the very least think twice about where you are buying stuff from or at the very very least countries impose tariffs on Chinese imports to pay for the sh*t storm that has cost us far too many lives and many billions.
Maybe it will make them think twice about covering up outbreaks again (not for the first time)

bb1234567 · 21-05-2020 02:38AM

Mexico getting hammered along with South America now. 424 deaths today there

Away With The Fairies · 21-05-2020 06:38AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

French military personnel taking part in games in Wuhan ( China) in October.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/french-army-returned-wuhan-military-21988912

It doesn't say it here, but it's interesting how a lab in Wuhan was advertising for a scientist to work with them and coronaviruses last October as well.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 21-05-2020 06:59AM

Why is our death rate so high in comparison to other similar sized countries and greater?

Ireland pop : 5m, deaths : 1571
Norway pop: 5.5m, deaths : 234
Finland pop : 5.5m, deaths : 304
Slovakia pop : 5.5m, deaths : 28
Singapore pop : 5.8m, deaths : 22
Bulgaria pop : 7m, deaths : 120
Israel pop : 8.6m, deaths : 279
Serbia pop : 8.7m, deaths : 235
Austria pop : 9m, deaths : 633
Belarus pop : 9.5m, deaths : 179
Hungary pop : 9.6m, deaths : 473
Portugal pop : 10.2m, deaths : 1263
Greece pop : 10.5m, deaths : 166
Czech pop : 10.6m, deaths : 304
Romania pop : 19m, deaths : 1147
Australia pop : 25m, deaths : 100
Poland pop : 37m, deaths : 962
Ukraine pop : 43m, deaths : 564

Paddygreen · 21-05-2020 07:02AM

wakka12 wrote: »

There is evidence, R0 has risen above 1 again in both Czech Republic and Austria. A second wave is almost inevitable especially ina country like Ireland with no culture of face mask wearing, but that term is extremely dramatic, cases will simply increase,perhaps by a lot, but very likely we will be able to keep them below a level that would be a huge burden for hospitals

I wear my mask and gloves in the car just so as many people as possible can see me setting a good example when I’m out and about doing and getting essential stuff. You need to be the change you want to see in the world. That said a lot of people will need the firm hand of the law on their back to shove them in the right direction. As it stands masks are not compulsory and they need not be.

Paddygreen · 21-05-2020 07:04AM

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »

Why is our death rate so high in comparison to other similar sized countries and greater?

Ireland pop : 5m, deaths : 1571
Norway pop: 5.5m, deaths : 234
Finland pop : 5.5m, deaths : 304
Slovakia pop : 5.5m, deaths : 28
Singapore pop : 5.8m, deaths : 22
Bulgaria pop : 7m, deaths : 120
Israel pop : 8.6m, deaths : 279
Serbia pop : 8.7m, deaths : 235
Austria pop : 9m, deaths : 633
Belarus pop : 9.5m, deaths : 179
Hungary pop : 9.6m, deaths : 473
Portugal pop : 10.2m, deaths : 1263
Greece pop : 10.5m, deaths : 166
Czech pop : 10.6m, deaths : 304
Romania pop : 19m, deaths : 1147
Australia pop : 25m, deaths : 100
Poland pop : 37m, deaths : 962
Ukraine pop : 43m, deaths : 564

Other countries are probably not counting probable deaths.

Miike · 21-05-2020 08:27AM

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »

Why is our death rate so high in comparison to other similar sized countries and greater?

Ireland pop : 5m, deaths : 1571
Norway pop: 5.5m, deaths : 234
Finland pop : 5.5m, deaths : 304
Slovakia pop : 5.5m, deaths : 28
Singapore pop : 5.8m, deaths : 22
Bulgaria pop : 7m, deaths : 120
Israel pop : 8.6m, deaths : 279
Serbia pop : 8.7m, deaths : 235
Austria pop : 9m, deaths : 633
Belarus pop : 9.5m, deaths : 179
Hungary pop : 9.6m, deaths : 473
Portugal pop : 10.2m, deaths : 1263
Greece pop : 10.5m, deaths : 166
Czech pop : 10.6m, deaths : 304
Romania pop : 19m, deaths : 1147
Australia pop : 25m, deaths : 100
Poland pop : 37m, deaths : 962
Ukraine pop : 43m, deaths : 564

Not every country is recording deaths in the same way. We are recording deaths and suspect deaths comprehensively. For example: some countries only count deaths that have occurred in an acute hospital setting, not a nursing home/LTC facility or anywhere else. We scrape all deaths that mention COVID on the death cert, essentially.

Akrasia · 21-05-2020 08:33AM

Arghus wrote: »

Obviously that figure is total Bullshyte.

Maybe Trump was right and the cases simply disappear as if by a miracle?

(Or else they’re just lying)

silverharp · 21-05-2020 08:40AM

intersting

https://twitter.com/JamesTodaroMD/status/1263148644556996610

ChelseaRentBoy · 21-05-2020 08:41AM

joeysoap wrote: »

Did anyone see those photos from numerous British ( English ) beaches on Wednesday. Jam packed.

The Gardai where called to several bathing spots in Dublin yesterday to disperse crowds. People are at their very most basic selfish and greedy.

Danzy · 21-05-2020 08:43AM

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »

Why is our death rate so high in comparison to other similar sized countries and greater?

Ireland pop : 5m, deaths : 1571
Norway pop: 5.5m, deaths : 234
Finland pop : 5.5m, deaths : 304
Slovakia pop : 5.5m, deaths : 28
Singapore pop : 5.8m, deaths : 22
Bulgaria pop : 7m, deaths : 120
Israel pop : 8.6m, deaths : 279
Serbia pop : 8.7m, deaths : 235
Austria pop : 9m, deaths : 633
Belarus pop : 9.5m, deaths : 179
Hungary pop : 9.6m, deaths : 473
Portugal pop : 10.2m, deaths : 1263
Greece pop : 10.5m, deaths : 166
Czech pop : 10.6m, deaths : 304
Romania pop : 19m, deaths : 1147
Australia pop : 25m, deaths : 100
Poland pop : 37m, deaths : 962
Ukraine pop : 43m, deaths : 564

As people said, different recording methods etc.

Differing places also have different outcomes, Massachusetts, near same population as all 9f Ireland has a fatality rate that would give 50k dead here fir herd immunity of 60%. That's given the antibody testing it has done.

ChelseaRentBoy · 21-05-2020 08:43AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Other countries are probably not counting probable deaths.

Source?

silverharp · 21-05-2020 08:48AM

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

The Gardai where called to several bathing spots in Dublin yesterday to disperse crowds. People are at their very most basic selfish and greedy.

Greedy for the Irish sea, okay

mloc123 · 21-05-2020 08:48AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

I wear my mask and gloves in the car just so as many people as possible can see me setting a good example when I’m out and about doing and getting essential stuff. You need to be the change you want to see in the world. That said a lot of people will need the firm hand of the law on their back to shove them in the right direction. As it stands masks are not compulsory and they need not be.

Ah, you are one of those people

Onesea · 21-05-2020 08:58AM

Ce he sin wrote: »

I'm guessing you're really impressed by the Brazilian model then?
There is this whole digging of mass graves thing going on there, but no making of an omelette without the breaking of a few eggs eh?

8500 deaths,, isn't that the same surgesas other large countries over these past few months. The numbers will tapper off in a few weeks. And let's not forget the details of who is effected by this

Gregor Samsa · 21-05-2020 09:08AM

Danzy wrote: »

As people said, different recording methods etc.

Differing places also have different outcomes, Massachusetts, near same population as all 9f Ireland has a fatality rate that would give 50k dead here fir herd immunity of 60%. That's given the antibody testing it has done.

Are you saying you read that 60% of people in Massachusetts have been infected by Covid 19? If so, I’d like to see the source for that, because it’s massively out of kilter with everywhere else.

Edit: or maybe If you’re saying that Ireland had the same number of deaths as Mass, our infection rate - extrapolated from the death rate we do have - would have been 60%? I don’t think that calculation is valid.

(I’m assuming by “herd immunity” you mean people infected).

Kermit.de.frog · 21-05-2020 09:15AM

Is Mexico emerging as another hotspot? 424 deaths yesterday is a new record for them.

Hector Savage · 21-05-2020 09:28AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52737169

A trial to see whether two anti-malarial drugs could prevent Covid-19 has begun in Brighton and Oxford.

Chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or a placebo will be given to more than 40,000 healthcare workers from Europe, Africa, Asia and South America.

All the participants are staff who are in contact with Covid-19 patients.

The media are really really really hoping this fails, just to write more hit pieces on Hitler.... I mean Trump ....

21-05-2020 09:35AM

Onesea wrote: »

8500 deaths,, isn't that the same surgesas other large countries over these past few months. The numbers will tapper off in a few weeks. And let's not forget the details of who is effected by this

18,500 and rising 900 a day.

And who is affected by this...people.

silverharp · 21-05-2020 09:36AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52737169

The media are really really really hoping this fails, just to write more hit pieces on Hitler.... I mean Trump ....

Is it being combined with Zinc? the idea is that the H opens up the cell wall to let the Zinc in which stops the virus replicating.

21-05-2020 09:38AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52737169

The media are really really really hoping this fails, just to write more hit pieces on Hitler.... I mean Trump ....

Its failed in all scientific trials so far.

NegativeCreep · 21-05-2020 09:39AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Is Mexico emerging as another hotspot? 424 deaths yesterday is a new record for them.

But I thought heat staved off the virus like you were saying yesterday?

Onesea · 21-05-2020 09:42AM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Are you saying you read that 60% of people in Massachusetts have been infected by Covid 19? If so, I’d like to see the source for that, because it’s massively out of kilter with everywhere else.

Edit: or maybe If you’re saying that Ireland had the same number of deaths as Mass, our infection rate - extrapolated from the death rate we do have - would have been 60%? I don’t think that calculation is valid.

(I’m assuming by “herd immunity” you mean people infected).

Didn't 400k people test positive in one country so where in California. Santa Clara iirc

Sanjuro · 21-05-2020 09:44AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52737169

The media are really really really hoping this fails, just to write more hit pieces on Hitler.... I mean Trump ....

Careful you don't cut yourself on all that edge.

Onesea · 21-05-2020 09:45AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

18,500 and rising 900 a day.

And who is affected by this...people.

Did they take any measures to protect the old people and the ill? No. So they will have a few weeks of hight death rates amount certain groups of people and then it's finito.

We have enough time behind us to see a trend happening. But for some reason many chose not to notice

Onesea · 21-05-2020 09:49AM

Let's all just remember, Brazil has a population of 209 million. And probebly alot of them living in not so glamorous housing developments. So when reporting such numbers of deaths let's not loose sight of relating factors. Check out the populations of the large cities alone.
Millions alone should die from this in Brazil.

21-05-2020 09:51AM

Onesea wrote: »

Didn't 400k people test positive in one country so where in California. Santa Clara iirc

No - of 3,300 people tested in Sant Clara, 4.16% were found to have antibodies - extrapolated to 80,000 people in a population of 1.9m. For Los Angeles county a similar study found the potential for 400,000 people to have had the virus - population 10 million, so not near 60%.
They were in April, so likely higher now, however given cases in California have increased about 250% since the study, possibly only about 10%.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/23/coronavirus-antibody-studies-california-stanford

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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