Masks

amandstu · 19-05-2020 05:06PM

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CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8221495/Elderly-man-shocks-shoppers-browses-supermarket-aisles-wearing-SANITARY-TOWEL-mask.html

Fife? That looks like Portuguese writing over the mackerel (cod?)Very fishy;)

Seanergy · 19-05-2020 05:48PM

Yes: valved

Boggles wrote: »

They asked for clarification nearly 2 months ago, basically should they be wearing masks or not, and if not, why not.

I guess they finally got their answer.

Very surprised they got mask's now as the big supply is not due for 1-2 weeks, stock is very low. Maybe they were given them as a H&S measure due to increasing trend of coughing / spit attacking? Maybe they should be wearing googles.

Anyone know what grade mask the Garda were issued?

cnocbui · 19-05-2020 06:50PM

Are you a hamster? If so, looks like you're sorted.

Wearing a mask can significantly reduce coronavirus transmission, study on hamsters claims
Published Tue, May 19 2020

The study was released Sunday by the department of microbiology at The University of Hong Kong.
Local media reports stated it will be published in the Clinical Infectious Diseases medical journal, suggesting it is yet to be peer reviewed.

Thomas Tolstrup

As the debate over the effectiveness of wearing masks during a pandemic continues, a new study gives weight to arguments by medical professionals and government leaders that wearing a mask does indeed reduce virus transmission — and dramatically so.

Experiments by a team in Hong Kong found that the coronavirus’ transmission rate via respiratory droplets or airborne particles dropped by as much as 75% when surgical masks were used.

“The findings implied to the world and the public is that the effectiveness of mask-wearing against the coronavirus pandemic is huge,” Dr. Yuen Kwok-yung, a leading microbiologist from Hong Kong University who helped discover the SARS virus in 2003, said Sunday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/coronavirus-wearing-a-mask-can-reduce-transmission-by-75percent-new-study-claims.html

brendanwalsh · 19-05-2020 09:14PM

Yes: other

Where are most people sourcing their FFP2 / FFP3 grade masks and filters ?

I got some from Hong Kong a few weeks ago but now looking to reload.

How many of you are wearing full or half faced respirators.?

Coralcoras · 20-05-2020 01:06AM

Yes: valved

What is you experience with mask uptake in your area? My eyes 1/15 at Tesco Westport. I have a feeling they won’t take off unless respected individuals in government lead the way.

Kermit.de.frog · 20-05-2020 02:15AM

Coralcoras wrote: »

What is you experience with mask uptake in your area? My eyes 1/15 at Tesco Westport. I have a feeling they won’t take off unless respected individuals in government lead the way.

Good point. Politicians could give guidance by wearing them.

Outlaw Pete · 20-05-2020 02:17AM

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Where are most people sourcing their FFP2 / FFP3 grade masks and filters ?

Where are you based? I get mine in Decwells on Sth Great George's St.

manor · 20-05-2020 04:15AM

My client has a container coming in next week, you will be able to buy on line at myppe ie
Website still being set up.

dublin99 · 20-05-2020 08:22AM

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Where are most people sourcing their FFP2 / FFP3 grade masks and filters ?

I got some from Hong Kong a few weeks ago but now looking to reload.

How many of you are wearing full or half faced respirators.?

I have a few boxes of 20 JSP ffp2 non valve respirator masks sourced from the UK in February for a (now cancelled) trip to Asia.

They are the JSP Olympus 121 model in original green box.

I have given some to the local surgery. If they are of use to anyone, I am happy to sell on at cost at 55 euro a box (2.75 euro each mask). I paid for UK delivery then courier to Ireland.

I am in South County Dublin. Please pm me.

McGiver · 20-05-2020 09:06AM

No: I don't care enough

standardg60 wrote: »

Jesus do you or anyone you know have the virus? I don't.

Would you rather be in the UK?

Leave your own political prejudice in your head and acknowledge a job well done.
The CMO has been dealing with politically motivated idiots (as most politicians are).

Move to a country with one of the differing CMO's if you're that convinced and see how you get on.

Norway, Germany, Finland, Czechia, Slovakia, Greece, Switzerland, Portugal, Denmark all managed better than Ireland in death per capita.

Sweden and Netherlands are just about as Ireland with almost no lockdown!

Ireland being an island on the periphery with low population density didn't manage it well. Poor death rate, long restrictive lockdown with huge bill and huge unemployment. Read it again hundred times.

And the reason is of course - no masks. The gov couldn't enact other measures which were part of the success in some of the countries listed above.

Hrududu · 20-05-2020 10:35AM

Coralcoras wrote: »

What is you experience with mask uptake in your area? My eyes 1/15 at Tesco Westport. I have a feeling they won’t take off unless respected individuals in government lead the way.

Totally anecdotally but it seems that people are relaxing a lot more. Lots more people out and about. The tension in the queue to the supermarkets doesn't seem to be there anymore. It looks like people think we're on the way out of this. And this attitude means I can't see them wearing masks if they haven't up until this point.

To be honest, unless the government make it mandatory I don't expect to see a big upswing in mask wearing

Stark · 20-05-2020 10:43AM

No: other

Yup, the time to recommend them was weeks ago when the mood music was all "OMG we're going to end up like Italy!!!".

ShineOn7 · 20-05-2020 10:52AM

Yes: surgical

Thoughts on these? https://www.inishpharmacy.com/p/biobase-3-ply-disposable-face-masks-bulk-box-50-pack/biobase-50

A box of 50 for 100 euros. I was going to get them for the parents

But do they really offer anything more than the box of 50 for 45 euros in Aldi (or is it Lidl) ?

Boggles · 20-05-2020 11:17AM

Masks to be mandatory in Spain starting tomorrow for over 16s, people who can't wear them don't have to.

https://www.thelocal.es/20200519/what-you-need-to-know-about-spains-new-rule-to-make-face-masks-mandatory

Bob24 · 20-05-2020 11:22AM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thoughts on these? https://www.inishpharmacy.com/p/biobase-3-ply-disposable-face-masks-bulk-box-50-pack/biobase-50

A box of 50 for 100 euros. I was going to get them for the parents

But do they really offer anything more than the box of 50 for 45 euros in Aldi (or is it Lidl) ?

If you prefer buying from a pharmacy you also have a box of 50 for 45 euros here which seems like a more reasonable price: https://www.pharmacy.ie/product/face-masks/

I don't know what exact type of masks they have at Aldi, but I wouldn't make any assumption the because it is more expensive from a particular shop it is better. The market for masks just is all over the place as the moment so prices are not necessarily an indication of quality.

cnocbui · 20-05-2020 01:41PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thoughts on these? https://www.inishpharmacy.com/p/biobase-3-ply-disposable-face-masks-bulk-box-50-pack/biobase-50

A box of 50 for 100 euros. I was going to get them for the parents

But do they really offer anything more than the box of 50 for 45 euros in Aldi (or is it Lidl) ?

Lidl

Away With The Fairies · 20-05-2020 03:46PM

Yes: valved

I don't understand people wearing gloves and not masks, especially after the advice to wear masks.

The main way of transmission is through respiratory droplets. How will gloves protect people?

Stark · 20-05-2020 03:52PM

No: other

Logically it makes no sense and if anything gloves make things worse. They just provide another surface for virus to stick to (more easily than it sticks to skin in fact) and you end up contaminating your hands when you take them off anyway so might as well just stick with sanitizer/soap and water. I'm pretty sure it boils down to cultural issues. As a people we're quite comfortable wearings things on our hands without feeling self conscious but not so comfortable wearing things on our face. (I know plenty of people who walk around half-blind because they're too vain to wear glasses for instance).

stratowide · 20-05-2020 04:06PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I don't understand people wearing gloves and not masks, especially after the advice to wear masks.

The main way of transmission is through respiratory droplets. How will gloves protect people?

Because people are idiots..They think that the gloves will protect their hands..which they will.

But your hands don't need protecting.Your skin is well capable of stopping the virus entering your body.

It's when you touch your face with your hands(gloved or not)that is the problem.

I laughed at the 6 one news a few weeks ago.
Two workers in a nursing home all suited up masks/gloves/visor/hazmat suit the works.

Talking to the reporter and one of them puts their gloved hand under the visor and under the mask to scratch their nose.

Clueless idiots is being kind to some people.

Away With The Fairies · 20-05-2020 04:20PM

Yes: valved

I understand that people want to make all the excuses for wearing gloves and that's ok... I just don't get why they don't wear masks.

Away With The Fairies · 20-05-2020 04:28PM

Yes: valved

Other countries making mask wearing mandatory... Can somebody please explain how Ireland is different with this virus?

Just saw a bus pass by and no one with a mask on it. How will distancing help if somebody sneezes on a bus?

Billgirlylegs · 20-05-2020 05:06PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Good point. Politicians could give guidance by wearing them.

Some of the stuff here is Comedy Gold.
This contribution is almost as good as hamsters wearing facemasks or a Risk Averse person standing in a pretty big queue at the ATM.

Which of our highly respected politicians would you think people will unquestioningly copy?

Stark · 20-05-2020 05:12PM

No: other

Billgirlylegs wrote: »

Some of the stuff here is Comedy Gold.
This contribution is almost as good as hamsters wearing facemasks or a Risk Averse person standing in a pretty big queue at the ATM.

Which of our highly respected politicians would you think people will unquestioningly copy?

Stupid person thinks other people are funny for being stupid post.

Seanergy · 20-05-2020 06:23PM

Yes: valved

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I don't understand people wearing gloves and not masks, especially after the advice to wear masks.

The main way of transmission is through respiratory droplets. How will gloves protect people?

This thread has already been bombed with glove talk enough, maybe those interested in talking gloves should do so in PPE thread or start a gloves thread!

Manion · 20-05-2020 06:30PM

So I went out today for some essentials. We seem to be back to where we were in early March. My valve based FPP3 respirator seems to be doing the trick by keeping people away from me. Happy enough with that tbh.

Away With The Fairies · 20-05-2020 08:29PM

Yes: valved

Seanergy wrote: »

This thread has already been bombed with glove talk enough, maybe those interested in talking gloves should do so in PPE thread or start a gloves thread!

I was just saying something that I noticed. Still more glove wearing than masks.

Boggles · 20-05-2020 09:24PM

99% of commuters 'ignoring advice' on face masks according to transport workers

Add to the fact large swathes of people are now acting like there is no pandemic, it will be a fúcking miracle if this thing doesn't flair up again in the next 6 weeks.

Away With The Fairies · 20-05-2020 09:36PM

Yes: valved

Boggles wrote: »

99% of commuters 'ignoring advice' on face masks according to transport workers

Add to the fact large swathes of people are now acting like there is no pandemic, it will be a fúcking miracle if this thing doesn't flair up again in the next 6 weeks.

It's not a surprise when masks/coverings aren't mandatory.

Coralcoras · 20-05-2020 11:16PM

Yes: valved

Another flair up (which is inevitable) and I can’t see how they won’t become mandatory. MARK THESE WORDS!

Seanergy · 20-05-2020 11:55PM

Yes: valved

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It's not a surprise when masks/coverings aren't mandatory.

It's not a surprise when the Media so one sidedly supported the negative stance towards the general public wearing masks by the HSE, State, Minister's, politicans, and doctors during the first 8 weeks of the pandemic.

Mask up take is not failing because it is not mandatory, it is failing because of the reason outlined above.

If the union has campaigned for face coverings to be mandatory on public transport to "ensure maximum protection of frontline staff" then the public's behaviour could be the reason for face coverings to become mandatory, the blame will also be transfered to the GP and that's the way the spin game is played.

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