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Bass Reeves wrote: »

I heard that management in plants were not informing workers of positive tests until end of shift so as not to unset the line. As well only worker with positive test were told to isolate, workers either side of them on the line where they were in very close contact were allowed back to work and these workers tested positive a week later. They did not stagger the entrance and exit from the halls but allowed the general stampede as well as at the toilets. The canteens were a disaster a couple hundred workers crowding in for a lunch break's and all staff from different section(slaughter line, boning halls and packing area's were taking breaks at the same time. The HSE had to intervene to get them to change processes.

You can see the change in the construction sector after going back as management have taken proactive steps to encouraging distancing. As well management are checking that workers travel to work in as small a groups as possible

Bass don't you know Larry and co can do no wrong in some people / organisations eyes.

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I heard that management in plants were not informing workers of positive tests until end of shift so as not to unset the line. As well only worker with positive test were told to isolate, workers either side of them on the line where they were in very close contact were allowed back to work and these workers tested positive a week later. They did not stagger the entrance and exit from the halls but allowed the general stampede as well as at the toilets. The canteens were a disaster a couple hundred workers crowding in for a lunch break's and all staff from different section(slaughter line, boning halls and packing area's were taking breaks at the same time. The HSE had to intervene to get them to change processes.

You can see the change in the construction sector after going back as management have taken proactive steps to encouraging distancing. As well management are checking that workers travel to work in as small a groups as possible

The same tone was coming across in an interview this morning by Cormac Healy on morning Ireland. He did not acknowledge that there was a problem in the industry and was overall very defensive trying to bring the discussion back to a high number within a few plants. This is on a day after it has been reported that there was over a 60% increase in case numbers during the past week. He showed no sign of empathy and his overall interview came across poorly and was at sea throughout the interview. He was not able to communicate what processors were doing to contain the virus and dithered his way through the interview.

our local factory only killing 4 days now i think so thats them backing them up now .....chating to our factory rep yesterday base for heifers 3.65

Jjameson wrote: »

The travellers behaviour would be more like the above than the migrant labour.
Slaney meats have a workforce of 900. I’d be up that way a good bit and the Brazilians don’t have children, eat much takeaways or go to mass. The Eastern European’s to a point are more permanent but they are very compliant and hygiene aware.

So do you want the working conditions to carry on as normal and then lock them away outside of working hours? As long as they only infect one another and not the “locals”?
Has the maid got your morning tea ready Master!!?

You have to laugh at the farmers leading the charge on this...... unfortunately they're like the boy that cried wolf too often and when a real problem comes along they'll be ignored, it'll be ''sure this is the boys stuck in larry again''

That a sad view of the world. Know a good few who have done well, offering a good product or service. Really depends on how one looks at life. For example the McHales and Concannon JFC. Good to work for and so have very loyal workforce.

Water John wrote: »

That a sad view of the world. Know a good few who have done well, offering a good product or service. Really depends on how one looks at life. For example the McHales and Concannon JFC. Good to work for and so have very loyal workforce.

Farmers are as cut -throat as any, they'd preach shop local and buy 100mls away for feck all difference. you see it being bragged about here on boards all the time.
Is € 50 fair for relief milking, that's taking advantage of the recession as far as I'm concerned
Plenty of migrants living in caravans working on farms. I know farmers providing and charging for accomadation
As for those two firms, what are they paying their hauliers, it's common knowledge that truck drivers are poorly paid.
They're not paying well or they wouldn't be in business. we outsource nowadays if the product isn't cheap enough .
Farmers have no problem screwing others but some farmers whinge incessantly when they're the victim.
Is it now time to investigate farmers treatment of migrants, proper evidence of poor treatment doesn't seem to be required, Barstool experts seems to be a necessity and, of course, social media

straight wrote: »

Ah lad. That's an unfair and scathing comment. Massive generalisations and prejudice. Everyone that comes in my gate is paid first and paid well. There doesn't seem to be anything left for myself. I'd love to have a hauliers wage.

Same here, OH says I'm too soft, but my allergy to letting my tax money go to the PS is too strong
No prejudice, I'm just after remembering I even know (dairy) farmers with houses rented to beef factory workers, :eek: is that a venial sin or mortal sin.
The whole scenario is a joke

Jjameson wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0520/1139453-coronavirus-meat-industry/

Yea and Drive time were giving the HSE a grilling this afternoon too, there's years of inefficiencies coming home to roost there too.
There's gonna be no utopia in handling this pandemic and throwing blame around will solve nothing

Jjameson wrote: »

The workers and the public are who are “leading the charge”.
A guy by the name of Kristopher Shekleton who is a very good guy from my understanding with no farm, cattle but a strong interest in public health.

It does suit my own narrative of not believing in high input, high output export driven beef industry to highlight again how it’s of no great value to anyone but an 8 family processing cartel and their cronies. Beef produced at volume below the price of production for the producer and large volume low paid work in barbarous conditions, and the money going home to South America.

Dispensable family Farms and dispensable labour. Simon Coveneys Mecca.

Kristofer hasn’t a clue about what’s happening, he just loves jumping on whatever bandwagon he can get an argument out of. He has illusions of being a politician that has worked himself so far into a corner that aontu were left with him.
His main issue is he has too much time on his hands since the pubs are closed.
While it mightn’t be popular wranglers right here, why the big push to close the factories? Do you really think it will affect them more than us or is it just “this is my chance to get a boot in”.
You’ll find the meat factories will do the minimum to keep operating legitimately it’ll be enough to keep going and any government realistically can’t afford to close them down in this pandemic. Public panic alone could cause food shortages, even with 90%!exported everything or anything pulled into the exchequer is going to be needed to keep things half right.

Duke92 wrote: »

God isn’t that some load of rubbish
I suppose they have to create some news
In a months time you’ll hear the same thing from the construction site probably be worse because a older work force

When meat factory staff are making up 40%of vivid cases it's hardly surprising that it making the news. Construction and other industry have learned. Was in a hardware shop today everything completely changed in a few weeks. The same with building sites. Only 20customers allowed into the Dairygold superstore in Limerick a friend was telling me.

It's important that all industries do there part.

Bass Reeves wrote: »

When meat factory staff are making up 40%of vivid cases it's hardly surprising that it making the news. Construction and other industry have learned. Was in a hardware shop today everything completely changed in a few weeks. The same with building sites. Only 20customers allowed into the Dairygold superstore in Limerick a friend was telling me.

It's important that all industries do there part.

Look I’m at the stage dealing with covid in my job since it started. Learn this and learn that, me hole people are still not getting it. No matter the signs/slogans we still have fcuking idiots coming into work with symptoms (ah it’s only a cold I’ll be grand)by lunchtime the gob****e is being sent home as the symptoms get worse. And the contact tracing starts and more people get sent home to isolate due to not keeping social distancing protocols. I’m only waiting for cases and deaths to rise again as people just aren’t getting what we are dealing with. All precautions can be put in place but people will still think it’ll never happen to them.
The civil service has been shown up for the lazy shower of clueless, arse scratching wasters that they are. New cases not reported properly, making a bollox of the test results(wrong diagnosis).
You see it yourself ya ring the department and the person who answers might be months from retirement and still hasn’t a notion as they’ve been carried in the job by someone who can do it.
Yet the Hse will come down on shops and pubs for not being able to adhere or enforce social distancing. Yet the cost cartels can do what they like. The real problem here is the pitiful wages these fcukers are allowed to get away with paying, any wonder it’s a **** show and getting worse.

I says wrote: »

Look I’m at the stage dealing with covid in my job since it started. Learn this and learn that, me hole people are still not getting it. No matter the signs/slogans we still have fcuking idiots coming into work with symptoms (ah it’s only a cold I’ll be grand)by lunchtime the gob****e is being sent home as the symptoms get worse. And the contact tracing starts and more people get sent home to isolate due to not keeping social distancing protocols. I’m only waiting for cases and deaths to rise again as people just aren’t getting what we are dealing with. All precautions can be put in place but people will still think it’ll never happen to them.
The civil service has been shown up for the lazy shower of clueless, arse scratching wasters that they are. New cases not reported properly, making a bollox of the test results(wrong diagnosis).
You see it yourself ya ring the department and the person who answers might be months from retirement and still hasn’t a notion as they’ve been carried in the job by someone who can do it.
Yet the Hse will come down on shops and pubs for not being able to adhere or enforce social distancing. Yet the cost cartels can do what they like. The real problem here is the pitiful wages these fcukers are allowed to get away with paying, any wonder it’s a **** show and getting worse.

HSE were shown up badly on drive time, there'll be more deaths, and maybe then something will happen. The descriptions given today were frontline not adhering to common sense.
The only reason we're doing well in this is 90% of the ordinary people are staying at home,,,, but they eventually have to go out to work.

Events happen week by week and month by month, recession, brexit, climate change activists, vegans, am nimal rights , covid in factories, 'the market dictates', people on the beef price tracker and the Mart tracker arguing whether or not they can make a twist on such and such an animal, you name it , you got it. But it's all spin. Wrangler posts away against the petty and small time/short term bull**** going around. And alot of his stuff is contrarian and maybe bitter.
But he's right about one thing , the market does dictate : there are buyers and sellers. (Admittedly only a few buyers..ha ha). They both talk to each other and come to an agreement. But in this case The buyers dictate . It's time for the sellers to cop the f**k on. And reduce down to f**k numbers and start doing a bit of dictating themselves or become slaves!! Reduce numbers and don't take less than 4!

Any update on prices and where too please.

wrangler wrote: »

People are getting fed up with this lockdown now, me included,, I'd be considered high risk and am even at the stage of saying ''bring it on''
I walked 8k with the dogs yesterday, then left in the dogs and went on to do another 4k, such is the boredom.

Fair play but when the choice comes and it will, the lockdown only deferred it, the people to save will be younger whether you’re fit or not as the system won’t cope. In Italy the over 65s were not saved when push came to shove.