beef price tracker

morphy87

kk.man wrote: »

I'd say mid June and not last long.

So what do you think the price will settle at the end of August?

wrangler

foundation10 wrote: »

Listening to Creed on Radio 1 today there are 12 plants with CV affecting 600 workers. This situation is serious and needs action before it goes out of control. No individual factory are willing to confirm the number of cases and using MII as their voice. Between the processors, MII and HSE a solution to this needs to be agreed and actioned immediately before more lives and livelihoods are put at risk. The processors appear to have been lax on this but if plants start being closed down by officials the s**t will hit the fan and we will be all down with it.

Yet it's farmers and vote seeking politicians that are pushing closures...... you couldn't make it up really
Coveney said today that it was being dealt with, provided they're satisfied with it, that's all we need

foundation10

wrangler wrote: »

Yet it's farmers and vote seeking politicians that are pushing closures...... you couldn't make it up really
Coveney said today that it was being dealt with, provided they're satisfied with it, that's all we need

I am not calling for closures but I am calling for action within each and every processing plant.

tabby aspreme

Listening to world report on RTE this morning, there are serious problems in America with meat factories, 14,000 staff with Covid, factories ordered to stay working by government, shortages of meat in the shops, and farmers stuck with animals they can't sell, particularly bad with pig and poultry sectors.

foundation10

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Listening to world report on RTE this morning, there are serious problems in America with meat factories, 14,000 staff with Covid, factories ordered to stay working by government, shortages of meat in the shops, and farmers stuck with animals they can't sell, particularly bad with pig and poultry sectors.

Correct, and this has been flagged for quite a while. Why our processing sector did not take note of this I don't know and they potentially could have been ahead of the curve.

wrangler

foundation10 wrote: »

Correct, and this has been flagged for quite a while. Why our processing sector did not take note of this I don't know and they potentially could have been ahead of the curve.

This is a joke ffs, they haven't been closed down, The virus didn't come from the meat, someone was careless and didn't take precautions and will again and again no matter what the processors regs are.

kk.man

morphy87 wrote: »

So what do you think the price will settle at the end of August?

I honestly don't know but I can't see processors spoiling farmers with 4 euro (false hope and all). They will fall again of course but how much and how long will depend on our very changed world.

richie123

kk.man wrote: »

I honestly don't know but I can't see processors spoiling farmers with 4 euro (false hope and all). They will fall again of course but how much and how long will depend on our very changed world.

Beef consumption levels in our biggest market the UK we're back 13 %last year
Greta thunberg/climate/veganism will be back in focus after virus.the future does not look bright for beef in general..

kevthegaff

wrangler wrote: »

This is a joke ffs, they haven't been closed down, The virus didn't come from the meat, someone was careless and didn't take precautions and will again and again no matter what the processors regs are.

Meat plant near here, workers were worried about being layed off so took paracetamol to pass heat detectors.

Duke92

richie123 wrote: »

Beef consumption levels in our biggest market the UK we're back 13 %last year
Greta thunberg/climate/veganism will be back in focus after virus.the future does not look bright for beef in general..

That’s rubbish I bet if you looked up where ever you got that it would be a report by a vegan website
I’ve yet to meet a Greta thunberg supporter

richie123

Duke92 wrote: »

That’s rubbish I bet if you looked up where ever you got that it would be a report by a vegan website
I’ve yet to meet a Greta thunberg supporter

I wouldn't waste many time saying things that are not true and do my best to check it's from a good source..I'm a beef farmer and this is the last thing I want to hear.after all it's our biggest market.

richie123

Duke92 wrote: »

That’s rubbish I bet if you looked up where ever you got that it would be a report by a vegan website
I’ve yet to meet a Greta thunberg supporter

I meant to add this screenshot in my last reply

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

Yet it's farmers and vote seeking politicians that are pushing closures...... you couldn't make it up really
Coveney said today that it was being dealt with, provided they're satisfied with it, that's all we need

If we look at the Leaving cert cancellation politician in opposition obviously had there contacts in the Department and the HSE. They got wind that there would be cancellation of the Leaving Cert. They were then seen to be ahead of Government and making policy. I be afraid of something similar here. Neither Government or the HSE are going to allow processing units to become cluster of infection which could spread the virus.

wrangler wrote: »

This is a joke ffs, they haven't been closed down, The virus didn't come from the meat, someone was careless and didn't take precautions and will again and again no matter what the processors regs are.

You are technically incorrect it came from a wet market in China or are you like Trump trying to make out the Chinese caused it from lab testing.

It not someone was careless it seemed to carelessness right across a number of processors. They continued on as if everything was the same and did not put processes and procedures in place to minimize the risks

Duke92

richie123 wrote: »

I meant to add this screenshot in my last reply

Yes I told you it from Linda McCartney foods (vegan food range)
Which is not a good source

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If we look at the Leaving cert cancellation politician in opposition obviously had there contacts in the Department and the HSE. They got wind that there would be cancellation of the Leaving Cert. They were then seen to be ahead of Government and making policy. I be afraid of something similar here. Neither Government or the HSE are going to allow processing units to become cluster of infection which could spread the virus.



You are technically incorrect it came from a wet market in China or are you like Trump trying to make out the Chinese caused it from lab testing.

It not someone was careless it seemed to carelessness right across a number of processors. They continued on as if everything was the same and did not put processes and procedures in place to minimize the risks

So it's on the beef now, jasus you guys'll do say anything to close the factories.


Locals here know exactly where the problem is

Danzy

wrangler wrote: »

So it's on the beef now, jasus you guys'll do say anything to close the factories.


Locals here know exactly where the problem is

Tis a big plot, hopefully those innocents running the factories won't be taken in.

Sometimes people can be too decent for their own good.

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

So it's on the beef now, jasus you guys'll do anything to close the factories.
Locals here know exactly where the problem is

No I did not say that what I did say was you were incorrect in saying it did not come from meat. What I did say is that it originated from a meat source. Because of that we have to be careful that nothing happens to endanger the industry. You are of the old IFA attitude of sweeping everything under the table and hoping everything will be alright on the day. None of us want factories closed however there is a huge risk by carelessness by management within the industry we could arrive in that situation.

So stop trying to make out just because people are critical of where we have arrived at by carelessness by processing management that we are trying to close factories. Processors have a habit of endangering the industry multiple times themselves.

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

No I did not say that what I did say was you were incorrect in saying it did not come from meat. What I did say is that it originated from a meat source. Because of that we have to be careful that nothing happens to endanger the industry. You are of the old IFA attitude of sweeping everything under the table and hoping everything will be alright on the day. None of us want factories closed however there is a huge risk by carelessness by management within the industry we could arrive in that situation.

So stop trying to make out just because people are critical of where we have arrived at by carelessness by processing management that we are trying to close factories. Processors have a habit of endangering the industry multiple times themselves.

There won't be a bother on them, they've a lot more to lose than any farmers, they're not fools

Danzy

wrangler wrote: »

There won't be a bother on them, they've a lot more to lose than any farmers, they're not fools

They aren't fools but there certainly have been issues around their honesty, their adherence to law, regulations, etc etc
Putting it very mildly.

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

There won't be a bother on them, they've a lot more to lose than any farmers, they're not fools

Arrogance can be as much of a problem as stupidity. Arrogance causes people not to listen to advice and to blame other and not to look at the broader picture. Processors were dealing with a workforce of which English is not there main language. They also would not be watching to advice regarding Covid from an Irish sources. Many would be getting there information from media sources from there own countries.

I posted earlier that it is part of the H&S legislation that workers are advised and informed in there own language. The construction industry for instance has safe pass courses completed in Russian, Polish, Lithuanian or even Romanian. It would have been critical to put the information into workers in there own languages. Many of these workers came from Brazil. The Brazilian Government took a laissez faire attitude to Covid and now are overwhelmed with it. There fore it would have been critical to inform workers of the issue and to have processes and procedures in place to manage distancing within the factories

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Arrogance can be as much of a problem as stupidity. Arrogance causes people not to listen to advice and to blame other and not to look at the broader picture. Processors were dealing with a workforce of which English is not there main language. They also would not be watching to advice regarding Covid from an Irish sources. Many would be getting there information from media sources from there own countries.

I posted earlier that it is part of the H&S legislation that workers are advised and informed in there own language. The construction industry for instance has safe pass courses completed in Russian, Polish, Lithuanian or even Romanian. It would have been critical to put the information into workers in there own languages. Many of these workers came from Brazil. The Brazilian Government took a laissez faire attitude to Covid and now are overwhelmed with it. There fore it would have been critical to inform workers of the issue and to have processes and procedures in place to manage distancing within the factories

You're starting to make it up as you go along now
I think you're all losing the run of yourselves, if conditions were as reported in the papers factories would be ciosed down due to non compliance.
. If that happens I'll be convinced

memorystick

Are they up this week?

kk.man

memorystick wrote: »

Are they up this week?

Everthing is up. Prices vary between plants hold your nerve and you are in command.

older by the day

I have a couple of big fat late calving cows, 700 kgs. I was going selling them to milk. But what would they be worth. I don't like killing them but a rough estimate would be good

degetme

Any prices for p and o grade fat cows

kk.man

Any prices?

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Arrogance can be as much of a problem as stupidity. Arrogance causes people not to listen to advice and to blame other and not to look at the broader picture. Processors were dealing with a workforce of which English is not there main language. They also would not be watching to advice regarding Covid from an Irish sources. Many would be getting there information from media sources from there own countries.

I posted earlier that it is part of the H&S legislation that workers are advised and informed in there own language. The construction industry for instance has safe pass courses completed in Russian, Polish, Lithuanian or even Romanian. It would have been critical to put the information into workers in there own languages. Many of these workers came from Brazil. The Brazilian Government took a laissez faire attitude to Covid and now are overwhelmed with it. There fore it would have been critical to inform workers of the issue and to have processes and procedures in place to manage distancing within the factories

Apost from another forum in case you mightn't believe me,

'' Some shocking stuff about migrant workers behaviour given on local radio by a migrant worker. People who have been diagnosed with covid 19 out and about doing everyday things. Bringing kids to parks to play, shopping in local supermarkets, visiting churches, collecting food from takeaways. It's going to be a long road yet till we are all safe.''

Duke92

wrangler wrote: »

Apost from another forum in case you mightn't believe me,

'' Some shocking stuff about migrant workers behaviour given on local radio by a migrant worker. People who have been diagnosed with covid 19 out and about doing everyday things. Bringing kids to parks to play, shopping in local supermarkets, visiting churches, collecting food from takeaways. It's going to be a long road yet till we are all safe.''

Yes had a guy doing a bit for me 2 Weeks ago
He’s not to worried has no old relations here and thinks he’ll be grand

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

Apost from another forum in case you mightn't believe me,

'' Some shocking stuff about migrant workers behaviour given on local radio by a migrant worker. People who have been diagnosed with covid 19 out and about doing everyday things. Bringing kids to parks to play, shopping in local supermarkets, visiting churches, collecting food from takeaways. It's going to be a long road yet till we are all safe.''

I heard that management in plants were not informing workers of positive tests until end of shift so as not to unset the line. As well only worker with positive test were told to isolate, workers either side of them on the line where they were in very close contact were allowed back to work and these workers tested positive a week later. They did not stagger the entrance and exit from the halls but allowed the general stampede as well as at the toilets. The canteens were a disaster a couple hundred workers crowding in for a lunch break's and all staff from different section(slaughter line, boning halls and packing area's were taking breaks at the same time. The HSE had to intervene to get them to change processes.

You can see the change in the construction sector after going back as management have taken proactive steps to encouraging distancing. As well management are checking that workers travel to work in as small a groups as possible

Bass Reeves

Duke92 wrote: »

Yes had a guy doing a bit for me 2 Weeks ago
He’s not to worried has no old relations here and thinks he’ll be grand

It is not unreasonable for a younger single healthy adult to be less worried. Know a lot of lads like that. The statistics tell us that it is mostly older people with underlying conditions that are at most risk.