Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

Deleted User wrote: »

Looking at the global figures - daily new cases have not moved much in the last 6 weeks however daily deaths have dropped about 40%. I wonder have we become better at testing and globally the case load is falling or we are just detecting a higher %, or are we better at treating and globally more people are recovering.

Or it could be that the pandemic has moved on to countries with slightly dubious death figures. Russia, for example, has a phenomenally low number of deaths. If you compare Russia with Spain, they have a similar total number of infections, a similar rate of testing, but Spain’s death total is nearly 10 times higher. Can we really put that down to being better at treating?

moonlighting_1 wrote: »

Nobody wearing masks today and things are getting busy again. Wont be long before wave 2 hits.

Are you concerned or just hoping for a "I told you so" moment? No evidence of wave 2 anywhere else.

is_that_so wrote: »

Are you concerned or just hoping for a "I told you so" moment? No evidence of wave 2 anywhere else.

Late Autumn is when the next wave will come. Heat reduces transmission of coronavirus like all virus. It's still there but not as prevalent mid summer.

is_that_so wrote: »

Are you concerned or just hoping for a "I told you so" moment? No evidence of wave 2 anywhere else.

Its very possible that this is the second wave . Based on no scientific evidence and just a hunch but its possible that the first wave arrived in Dec/Jan and then the 2 wave in march . I know very many who were sick in December with symptoms and also know of one care home that had an unusually high rate of death in January . Who know , maybe not but it is a possibility that needs to be looked at

The horrible thing is the so called 2nd wave might not be as bad because most of the vulnerable have already died

Arghus wrote: »

But that is EXACTLY what happened in Lombardy, in Madrid, in New York - places where the virus took hold before restrictions were put in place. Hospitals were overwhelmed with Covid patients, cemeteries were literally full.

It's not sh*te, it was reality in those places - it's what happened.

But it hasn’t happened here. The curve has flattened.

is_that_so wrote: »

We'll be so much more ready, both personally and in all other areas.

There are two ways to look at it...

On the plus side the health service should be better prepared and there may be better treatments which might reduce the death rate and seriousness of symptoms.

On the downside will the public be as compliant in a second lockdown? While lives come before the economy, the two are intertwined. A second full lockdown could be beyond catastrophic for economies.

The government will be like Oprah giving out all the austerity

Good news:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/feared-reactivation-of-covid-19-infections-disputed-by-new-data/

EDit wrote: »

Or it could be that the pandemic has moved on to countries with slightly dubious death figures. Russia, for example, has a phenomenally low number of deaths. If you compare Russia with Spain, they have a similar total number of infections, a similar rate of testing, but Spain’s death total is nearly 10 times higher. Can we really put that down to being better at treating?

Putin is getting slaughtered at home over his handling of this. His approval rating is the lowest it has ever been, which is something amazing in a de facto dictatorship.

I expect the honest test results are an attempt to make it look like Putin is doing something and the extremely low death rates are trying to paint a picture that Russia is strong and winning where the rest of the West couldn't.

A number of doctors who have spoken out in Russia against a lack of PPE and other health service failings have all "mysteriously" fallen out of a high window of their hospitals.

We won't know the true numbers in Russia for years; until some historian starts poking around in statistics and trying to match up reported death numbers.

bilston wrote:

Brazil is in serious trouble, they can't even say they are near the peak because case numbers continue to increase day on day.

They looked set to replicate the United States and may end up being being even worse hit.

Bolsanaro is a genuine, full-on psychopath.

He is focussing healthcare on the wealthy and allow the virus to run rampant amongst the poorer of Brazil. He considers large-scale deaths in poorer communities to be a good thing, he considers them vermin who need their numbers culled.

While Putin is fighting to hold onto a dictatorship, Bolsanaro is using this as an opportunity to build one.

Article from 30 April

National Screening Services (NSS) programmes are now putting plans together for a safe restart of screening “in so far as that is possible”.
Work is being completed to that end but depends on Government guidelines, due shortly, according to a statement from the service.

shortly (?)

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah he said it on morning Ireland yesterday. Screening is vital. He said screening only picks up asymptomatic cases, but sure isnt that the whole point of screening and early intervention

Are you for real? wow, we really have idiots in charge, scary, makes you wonder if he received any education in his life.

uli84 wrote: »

Are you for real? wow, we really have idiots in charge, scary, makes you wonder if he received any education in his life.

Yup, interview clips available on rte Twitter page still.

He said if people are worried they should visit their GP, but sure people only visit a GP when they've symptoms. That wont help with early detection