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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #6242
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Apart from the fact reliability of such tests isn't assured yet.
    Spain have done it. New York have done it. City of Milan did it. Not sure why we can't do the same?


  • #6243
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    The numbers of people who got it and took it on the chin without getting referred must be huge


  • #6244
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,858 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Thousands more jobs at risk at the Airport. All these job losses piling pressure on our welfare system. Also our health service though medical cards. The negative spin offs are immeasurable from this


  • #6245
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Looks like close contact definition has potentially changed for contact tracing then if a confirmed case has been working with others? If I understood that correctly. Guess it's unavoidable for staff to be that close together in certain circumstances.


  • #6246
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    mean gene wrote: »
    The numbers of people who got it and took it on the chin without getting referred must be huge
    Or we might just be after controlling it efficiently?


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  • #6247
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Who is asking the somewhat fishing for a reaction questions?


  • #6248
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    mean gene wrote: »
    The numbers of people who got it and took it on the chin without getting referred must be huge

    I was referred and test got cancelled. Months ago now, was fine before I would have gotten a test at that stage anyway.

    People just aren't contracting it in day to day settings any more.


  • #6249
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Yes, Dr Tony just said that virtually all new cases are in care settings yet people on here still believe it is contracted in the park or in the supermarket.

    Wouldn't blame people for having a cautious approach tbh. Still lot of emphasis on social distancing, wearing masks, hand hygine, cough etiquette so risk may be lower but not zero and still need to keep up the measures.


  • #6250
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    We are.



    No guarantee there will ever be a vaccine. Could well be a case of us achieveing herd immunity quicker while stlll havig lockdowns.

    People's patience and tolerance will decide the future ultimately.

    No evidence any such thing as herd immunity. From the now discredited Vallance in UK.


  • #6251
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,448 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Still 16 is much lower than what we were getting 30-40 at one stage etc, not to mention only 51 cases today. I suspect there will be less than 16 deaths tomorrow. It’s going.....

    The first wave is going.

    When travel levels increase and winter arrives, there will almost certainly be a second. We must get ready for that. The severity depends on many factors, not least protection measures in place in the UK, which as we have seen, are making a balls of things.

    Any narrative that "its going" is just the wrong message, we need to hold the line tight.


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  • #6252
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I was referred and test got cancelled. Months ago now, was fine before I would have gotten a test at that stage anyway.

    People just aren't contracting it in day to day settings any more.

    Which is great I know people who think they got it took paracetamol for a few days stayed in isolated without calling a doctor I think the amount of people who done that was huge


  • #6253
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Apart from the fact reliability of such tests isn't assured yet.

    Think they are talking about people being able to book a test in a test centre rather than self testing

    Apparently that (self booking) will happen in the next few weeks


  • #6254
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Or we might just be after controlling it efficiently?

    When the case criteria was loosened over 2 months ago, 40,000 were referred for tests by their GP in 2 days and the tests got cancelled.
    This all led to the backlogs etc.

    Then we only tested Healthcare workers and vulnerable for close to 2 months.

    Now we have loosened the criteria completely and no one is going forward for a test (those that do test negative)

    It's as clear as days that thousands and thousands of infections were missed in the early days.


  • #6255
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    The new app is a lot less buggy than the previous versions, at least.

    Which app is this?


  • #6256
    Bridge93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    So we’ve capacity (confirmed?) to test 100,000 a week and last week just under 37,000 were completed. Time to massively ramp up


  • #6257
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Spain have done it. New York have done it. City of Milan did it. Not sure why we can't do the same?
    It's coming. We should hear about it fairly soon.


  • #6258
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,155 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    eagle eye wrote: »
    My wife just came back from the shops saying social distancing looks like a thing of the past to most people. She wasn't very comfortable and abandoned shopping.

    I work in a shop and social distancing has gone completely out the window in the last two to three weeks. Literally nobody does it where I am, staff or customers. They might stand apart in queues, but that's it. I'm not exaggerating.

    I honestly don't know where Tony Holohan does his shopping, but what he describes bears no resemblance to what I see everyday all around me.

    So I can only roll my eyes at the naivete of people who think we'll be able to social distance our way out of this and lockdowns are a waste of time. They're awfully innocent.


  • #6259
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    They really do like to stir it up and look for controversy.


  • #6260
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    So we’ve capacity (confirmed?) to test 100,000 a week and last week just under 37,000 were completed. Time to massively ramp up

    There's no demand.


  • #6261
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Arghus wrote: »
    I work in a shop and social distancing has gone completely out the window in the last two to three weeks. Literally nobody does it where I am, staff or customers. They might stand apart in queues, but that's it. I'm not exaggerating.

    I honestly don't know where Tony Holohan does his shopping, but what he describes bears no resemblance to what I see everyday all around me.

    So I can only roll my eyes at the naivete of people who think we'll be able to social distance our way out of this and lockdowns are a waste of time. They're awfully innocent.

    Right and if this was a massive deal case numbers would be skyrocketing? But they aren't.


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  • #6262
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    mean gene wrote: »
    Which is great I know people who think they got it took paracetamol for a few days stayed in isolated without calling a doctor I think the amount of people who done that was huge

    I think the communication at the start wasn't the best. Should have been told to contact GP anyway either way and let GP decide if they needed test. Guess testing system couldn't handle it then so everyone had to self-isolate either way.


  • #6263
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    If there's only 50 odd new cases today, would it not make more sense to keep the lockdown for about month or two as is. Then completely eliminate it and test everyone coming in and out of the country?


  • #6264
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    Arghus wrote: »
    I work in a shop and social distancing has gone completely out the window in the last two to three weeks. Literally nobody does it where I am, staff or customers. They might stand apart in queues, but that's it. I'm not exaggerating.

    I honestly don't know where Tony Holohan does his shopping, but what he describes bears no resemblance to what I see everyday all around me.

    So I can only roll my eyes at the naivete of people who think we'll be able to social distance our way out of this and lockdowns are a waste of time. They're awfully innocent.

    I see social distancing all over cork city tesco aldi and lidl still going on. Now, argos mahon sucks for it


  • #6265
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    normanoffside wrote: »
    There's no demand.

    Doesn’t surprise me , everytime i drive by the Longford test centre gate is always closed.


  • #6266
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    road_high wrote: »
    Thousands more jobs at risk at the Airport. All these job losses piling pressure on our welfare system. Also our health service though medical cards. The negative spin offs are immeasurable from this

    Ah sure it will be grand Ireland had a great community sprit before all this money nonsense.

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  • #6267
    uli84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭uli84


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    A second wave is to be expected, sooner or later this year

    That’s exactly the reason they should open the country faster


  • #6268
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    The latest news as of 6pm on Tuesday 19 May

    16 deaths and 51 new cases confirmed:

    the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC) has been notified that 16 people diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland have died - bringing the total deaths to 1,561
    51 additional cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed in Ireland
    there have now been 24,251 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ireland


    Sad for deaths. Progress on new cases.


    https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/#the-latest-news-as-of-6pm-on-tuesday-19-may


  • #6269
    Bridge93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    normanoffside wrote: »
    There's no demand.

    Then you create demand which potentially allows us to speed up the opening of things. If there’s 60,000 spare tests. Get workers in certain industries tested or whatever tested and see if we can open a few more things in a more timely manner. There goal is to supposedly test half the country by Christmas all those people won’t be sick or showing symptoms. Their goal was obviously to test asymptomatic at some stage. Test those entering the country


  • #6270
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Doesn’t surprise me , everytime i drive by the Longford test centre gate is always closed.
    A lot of people on here seem to think that no demand = people avoiding being tested. I disagree strongly. There's no demand because people aren't sick.


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  • #6271
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Bridge93 wrote: »


    Then you create demand which potentially allows us to speed up the opening of things. If there’s 60,000 spare tests. Get workers in certain industries tested or whatever tested and see if we can open a few more things in a more timely manner. There goal is to supposedly test half the country by Christmas all those people won’t be sick or showing symptoms. Their goal was obviously to test asymptomatic at some stage
    No, there's now capacity for 100,000 if required. That's not spare tests. It's also a waste of money considering we are at 3% or lower in positive tests.


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