Masks

rossie1977 · 17-05-2020 02:03PM

If the chemist in my small town in county Roscommon have surgical masks for sale them most pharmacies across the country should have them

Seanergy · 17-05-2020 02:09PM

Yes: valved

Couple of poster's on here rambling about personal choice whilst practising push down politics.

Currently the governments policy is to give the general public the choice to exhale potentially virus loaded droplets on public transport, in shops and in the enironmnet when out and about.

s1ippy · 17-05-2020 02:18PM

Yes: surgical

is_that_so wrote: »

This is just another form of tone-deafness, the self-righteous version. Wear a mask or I will abuse you unrelentingly and that's fine. Intolerant but honest. It is your choice to mask up just as it is someone else's choice to be informed otherwise.

I was queuing for an atm yesterday wearing a mask and some prick started getting closer and closer to be on purpose with a stupid grin on his face. Luckily I knew what he was doing because of the absolutely mental people on here describing "chicken" games, where they make people who are risk adverse uncomfortable.

I started coughing violently under the mask and he took a step back.

(and then everybody clapped)

Actually nobody clapped, everyone was looking at me as I was the only one on the crowded street wearing a mask. I don't mind them judging me but I really wish more people had been wearing them. A teenager about thirteen kept pulling the neck of his hoodie over his mouth. I was just thinking about how much more dangerous that would be because the knock on effect is that you're touching your mouth with your hand.

The asshole man in the queue only reinforced my mentality that you have to wear a mask because you have to presume you need to protect yourself against these mouthbreathers. Also others should be protected against if you potentially have it. It's not complicated.

Seanergy · 17-05-2020 02:28PM

Yes: valved

s1ippy wrote: »

I was queuing for an atm yesterday wearing a mask and some prick started getting closer and closer to be on purpose with a stupid grin on his face. Luckily I knew what he was doing because of the absolutely mental people on here describing "chicken" games, where they make people who are risk adverse uncomfortable.

I started coughing violently under the mask and he took a step back.

(and then everybody clapped)

Nah but if anything he only reinforced my mentality that you have to wear a mask because you have to presume you need to protect yourself against these mouthbreathers. Also others should be protected against if you potentially have it. It's not complicated.

Hadn't heard that term used in relation to COVID-19 but definetly have recieved plenty of abuse for wearing masks since pandemic started.

I should use that technique instead of my pump action disnfectent sprayer which nearly caused a scrap the last time.

I'm clapping ya, sound.

MadYaker · 17-05-2020 02:29PM

Yes: surgical

I mean if there was even the slightest chance that wearing a mask was going to protect others would people not just wear one to be sound no? I thought we were better than this as a country

it’s such a small thing to do compared to what we’ve already done.

Seanergy · 17-05-2020 02:30PM

Yes: valved

JUST RECIEVED THIS MESSAGE:

It’s unclear if we’re fit testing in acute hospitals or nursing homes.

The fit test kit and the bitter/sweet test solutions didn’t appear on any of the PPE requirement lists I’ve seen

so arguably some Irish medics may as well be wearing surgically masks.

owlbethere · 17-05-2020 03:20PM

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/masks-covid-19-infections-would-plummet-new-study-says

I don't know if this was posted yet. Its a good read.

Seanergy · 17-05-2020 04:56PM

Yes: valved

jackofalltrades wrote: »

You could make something similar if you were stuck.

Thanks so much for posting that yesterday, couldn't resist not trying this today, half way through it and very confident that is the only way to do it.

Using parchment paper as suggested in the utube comments, which makes sealing the edge a breeze. He gave 3 options on the center line, so going to put a few evening's into toying with that and see if I can improve his mod. Reckon i'm going to be making the hot wire cutter aswell, just to speed cutting patterns out and for the buzz.

It's just one of those things when you touch it excudes quality.

Thanks again, I'm pumped.

Boggles · 17-05-2020 09:14PM

Arra Jaysus!

The mental health effects of wearing masks???

What sort of "I have run out of excuses to oppose masks" fúckery is that?

owlbethere · 17-05-2020 09:39PM

Boggles wrote: »

Arra Jaysus!

The mental health effects of wearing masks???

What sort of "I have run out of excuses to oppose masks" fúckery is that?

Who's talking about the mental health effects of wearing masks?

McGiver · 18-05-2020 08:48AM

No: I don't care enough

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Eurogiant has reusable face masks.

Seems bogus. Polyester - no good unless there's a nanofibre filter inside (unlikely for that price).

fryup · 18-05-2020 10:50AM

No: I don't care enough

i want to get one with a jolly roger, that way people will keep their distance

MadYaker · 18-05-2020 12:46PM

Yes: surgical

Boggles wrote: »

Arra Jaysus!

The mental health effects of wearing masks???

What sort of "I have run out of excuses to oppose masks" fúckery is that?

Just too spineless to admit they’re self centred and don’t give a fcuk about others. These are the same people having house parties and ignoring social distancing.

ShineOn7 · 18-05-2020 04:45PM

Yes: surgical

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Going to order a pack of one of these two in the next hour

https://www.fishersci.ie/shop/products/disposable-particulate-respirator/p-8001321

https://www.fishersci.ie/shop/products/disposable-particulate-respirator/11713363

Any thoughts on there being much of a difference between them?

Just got some clarity from this company over the phone. They're not available to the public, it's for registered businesses only and even then they've a backlog of orders for their 3M masks

The hunt for 3M PP2 masks continues

brendanwalsh · 18-05-2020 04:58PM

Yes: other

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-wearing-surgical-masks-can-reduce-covid-19-spread-by-75-study-claims-11990381

Another study supporting the use of masks.

hgfj · 18-05-2020 05:28PM

I was in my local supervalu the day before yesterday. They were selling single use medical masks individually wrapped for 3.50 each. EACH! Two weeks ago I paid 100 euro for 100 masks, the exact same type supervalu are selling. No doubt supervalu paid either a similar price or even cheaper still (since buying in bulk). None of the staff were wearing masks themselves either so obviously management not even handing them out to their own.
In France the price of a mask has been capped at 95 cents.

https://www.simmons-simmons.com/en/publications/cka2mf4f9novi09264em1gvpa/covid-19-price-controlling-of-single-use-surgical-masks-in-france

Other countries are doing similar. Price gouging at the height of a global pandemic should be a criminal offence.

Away With The Fairies · 18-05-2020 05:31PM

Yes: valved

I thought I would see more masks being worn since Friday's announcement but nope it's the same.

hgfj · 18-05-2020 05:37PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I thought I would see more masks being worn since Friday's announcement but nope it's the same.

With places like supervalu charging 3.50 per individual mask I'm not surprised.

Away With The Fairies · 18-05-2020 05:41PM

Yes: valved

hgfj wrote: »

With places like supervalu charging 3.50 per individual mask I'm not surprised.

It shouldn't be allowed. Saw masks for €2 each in the pound shop. And they had loads of them in a brown paper bag. So reach in and pull out a mask for €2... And no hand washing facilities close by so they're using dirty hands to reach in and get a mask and sell it on. You really notice dirty things/people now.

Never.Give.Up · 18-05-2020 05:58PM

Yes: other

hgfj wrote: »

I was in my local supervalu the day before yesterday. They were selling single use medical masks individually wrapped for 3.50 each. EACH!

That's mad. Surgical masks use to be at most €20 for box of 50 at beginning of year.

Price abuse certainly evident. Not just with masks. We need a practical solution to combat this. Crowdsourcing transparency could be one.

caveat emptor · 18-05-2020 07:10PM

Yes: to protect others

If anyone want's to understand how respirator masks here's some good info. It also explains how particles are effectively filtered. Well worth the read.

I've highlighted the obvious for those still not convinced.

Recently there has been growing interest in the use of respirators to help protect against certain airborne biohazards. Diseases that may be caused by inhalation of airborne biological organisms include tuberculosis (TB), Hantavirus, anthrax, coronaviruses (including SARS, MERS and others), and influenza. Biohazards may become airborne, perhaps as the agent itself, such as an anthrax spore, or as the agent riding on some other material that becomes airborne, such as dusts, mists or droplet nuclei. Hantavirus infection has been caused by people inhaling soil dust that became airborne after rodents shed virus via urine, feces or other materials into the soil. In fact, it is generally thought that airborne viruses are normally attached to other particles and rarely exist as naked organisms.1
Inhalation of these bioaerosols may be reduced by wearing respirators. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), and national health authorities have made numerous recommendations for respirator use where they believed the potential for the spread of disease through the airborne route exists. Considerations for selection and use of respirators to help reduce exposure to bioaerosols include:

• Filtration
• Micro organism survival on thefilter
• Potential re aerosolization of the bioaerosol
• Reuse of the respirator
• Fit and the assigned protection factor of the respirator

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/409903O/respiratory-protection-against-biohazards.pdf

Seanergy · 18-05-2020 07:16PM

Yes: valved

MadYaker wrote: »

Just too spineless to admit they’re self centred and don’t give a fcuk about others. These are the same people having house parties and ignoring social distancing.

Don't think the heads who are having house parties are citing mental health affects....Mental health effects is a politically allergic term.

hgfj wrote: »

With places like supervalu charging 3.50 per individual mask I'm not surprised.

Don't go blaming SV for the poor mask uptake.

Poor mask uptake is primarily on the shoulders of the press and the State for they have been bashing it for months.

Friday's announcement was limp.

Never.Give.Up wrote: »

Price abuse certainly evident. Not just with masks. We need a practical solution to combat this. Crowdsourcing transparency could be one.

I have no interest in making money from this Pandemic but I do have an interest in the GP wearing facecoverings and in the future upgrading from facecoverings and surgical masks to FFP2 masks.

Loads of quality Mask's availble in Germany cutting out the midddle man on this site and not just facecoverings and surgical, proper FFP2 grade.

Merkel put the foot down early and the country's factories repsonded. Good read up here about how a coffee filter enterprise adapted to making masks, they made 10 million masks in the 1st month.

Meanwhile in Ireland we haven't even been able to form a government.

GT89 · 18-05-2020 07:16PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

It seems that it's not only members of the general public that aren't using masks right. I saw an ambulance today and one of the paramedics was wearing a mask around his neck. I would have thought that paramedics would be trained on the proper use of PPE.

Seanergy · 18-05-2020 07:29PM

Yes: valved

So the Garda got thier mask supply this morning.

Garda Headquarters said gardaí on duty would wear the masks in enclosed situations such as in patrol cars, public transport, shops or someone's home.

Phil.x · 18-05-2020 08:34PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

If government and Co are recommending waring masks on public transport and shops etc, where can you get them without waiting month's from China.

hgfj · 18-05-2020 08:40PM

Quote:

"Don't go blaming SV for the poor mask uptake.

Poor mask uptake is primarily on the shoulders of the press and the State for they have been bashing it for months."

Well, I do blame them (and others like them). Are you willing to pay 3.50 every time you use a mask? Can you afford it? A family of four buying one weeks supply of these masks (28 masks, one a day for each individual) at the prices they are charging would set that household back 98 euro. That's the guts of 100 euro per week, almost 400 a month. How many households can afford that?
Whatever about the press and the State making a balls of it, that doesn't excuse price gouging. Uptake would be higher if price was lower.

Stark · 18-05-2020 08:41PM

No: other

Phil.x wrote: »

If government and Co are recommending waring masks on public transport and shops etc, where can you get them without waiting month's from China.

Pharmacies, Supervalu, Lidl are 3 places I've seen them.

Waccamacca3 · 18-05-2020 08:50PM

Yes: surgical

I bought some the other day I can see shopping centres will enforce masks how else can we have big groups. Xmas shopping would be a disaster if still only 1 in 1 out from big shops. Wife doesn't feel confident enough to wear them but I am definitely wanting both of us to wear them

Away With The Fairies · 18-05-2020 09:23PM

Yes: valved

Waccamacca3 wrote: »

I bought some the other day I can see shopping centres will enforce masks how else can we have big groups. Xmas shopping would be a disaster if still only 1 in 1 out from big shops. Wife doesn't feel confident enough to wear them but I am definitely wanting both of us to wear them

If she feels silly wearing a mask out, she won't be the only one out with a mask on. We should all be silly together.

Stark · 18-05-2020 09:40PM

No: other

I felt very silly myself wearing one today in the supermarket and I'm sure I got some snide looks/sniggers. Someone has to start the trend though, as other people start to see people wear them, they'll feel more comfortable until eventually it's the majority hopefully.

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