How will schools be able to go back in September?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 18-05-2020 12:46PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

One of Mary Lou's kids got it at school and she got it as a result.

Don't think Mary Lou ever found out where she got it?

Hurrache · 18-05-2020 12:46PM

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

Couldn't agree with you more. They should never have been closed for this length of time either.

Tell us why.

iguana · 18-05-2020 12:51PM

Jim Root wrote: »

Could we not just move the school calendar forward to the start of August/late July? Why are summer holidays still needed?

As a parent I actually want to take some time in the summer to be able to enjoy the somewhat reopened country with my kid. He's spent most of the last 2+ months at home. When playgrounds reopen, when we can travel as far as near-ish forest parks, when I can take him to the lake or the beach, the cinema and the roller-rink, I want to do all of that. If there is a possibility of travelling across the country to see his cousins to belatedly celebrate their birthday that we missed, I want to do that. I don't want him to have to go from being at home all day to being at school all day.

I'm also hoping that in the next 3 months enough will have been learned about the way virus transmits that children will be able to return to schools that feel more normal. There is absolutely no way on earth I'll be sending a 7 year old into a school that looks like the schools we are seeing in France right now. It's better to wait and (hopefully) do it right than send children into a type of school setting that has the potential to be needlessly upsetting.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 18-05-2020 01:03PM

Hurrache wrote: »

Tell us why.

Because it was a knee jerk panic reaction from the government with no evidence or measured planning.

Fair enough if they had to close for a few weeks but it will be 6 months (if they even open in September) and its complete overkill. That hasn't been adopted by any infected countries.

Children have been treated like outcasts in all of this. That will have huge societal repercussions once we are trying to get back to normal. You only have to see the way an elderly person looks at a passing child these days to know what I'm talking about. It's wrong.

vid36 · 18-05-2020 01:08PM

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

Because it was a knee jerk panic reaction from the government with no evidence or measured planning.

Fair enough if they had to close for a few weeks but it will be 6 months (if they even open in September) and its complete overkill. That hasn't been adopted by any infected countries.

Children have been treated like outcasts in all of this. That will have huge societal repercussions once we are trying to get back to normal.

It has been adopted in many other countries.Schools in Spain, Italy, Portugal, USA , Scotland, Northern Ireland and Poland are all closed for the rest of the school year.
Other countries such as France have reopened primary schools but 50 of those schools had to close again within a week of reopening due to clusters of cases.

Hearty80 · 18-05-2020 01:08PM

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

Because it was a knee jerk panic reaction from the government with no evidence or measured planning.

Fair enough if they had to close for a few weeks but it will be 6 months (if they even open in September) and its complete overkill. That hasn't been adopted by any infected countries.

Children have been treated like outcasts in all of this. That will have huge societal repercussions once we are trying to get back to normal. You only have to see the way an elderly person looks at a passing child these days to know what I'm talking about. It's wrong.

Its actually beyond ridiculous at this stage, children will be left with much more problems than catching the virus.
Ok close them for a few weeks, but why are they still closed. I think the government actually wanted to open them but the teachers union wouldn't hear of it.

Hearty80 · 18-05-2020 01:09PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

One of Mary Lou's kids got it at school and she got it as a result.

That's complete hear say, I heard those teenagers got it in Italy.

History Queen · 18-05-2020 01:12PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Its actually beyond ridiculous at this stage, children will be left with much more problems than catching the virus.
Ok close them for a few weeks, but why are they still closed. I think the government actually wanted to open them but the teachers union wouldn't hear of it.

Source for your claims regarding the teachers union? Which union?

r93kaey5p2izun · 18-05-2020 01:13PM

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

Because it was a knee jerk panic reaction from the government with no evidence or measured planning.

Fair enough if they had to close for a few weeks but it will be 6 months (if they even open in September) and its complete overkill. That hasn't been adopted by any infected countries.

At least try to be truthful. Schools will remain closed until September in Spain and Italy. They are closed until at least June 7th in Poland - no decision on reopening then made. 48 US states have ordered or recommended schools to remain closed until September. Yes, some countries have opened- in Europe this is mostly extremely limited with significant social distancing measures and massive timetable changes. But not all.

Conelan · 18-05-2020 01:13PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Its actually beyond ridiculous at this stage, children will be left with much more problems than catching the virus.
Ok close them for a few weeks, but why are they still closed. I think the government actually wanted to open them but the teachers union wouldn't hear of it.

Where do people get this BS??

Flimsy_Boat · 18-05-2020 01:15PM

Conelan wrote: »

Where do people get this BS??

It's made up to suit their agenda, of course.

khalessi · 18-05-2020 01:16PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Its actually beyond ridiculous at this stage, children will be left with much more problems than catching the virus.
Ok close them for a few weeks, but why are they still closed. I think the government actually wanted to open them but the teachers union wouldn't hear of it.

Actually that is incorrect, the teacehers union had no say as NPHET running show based on the fact there is a global pandemic.

Also there are new developments with this virus everyday which teachers dont control and have to be heeded.

iamwhoiam · 18-05-2020 01:16PM

iguana wrote: »

As a parent I actually want to take some time in the summer to be able to enjoy the somewhat reopened country with my kid. He's spent most of the last 2+ months at home. When playgrounds reopen, when we can travel as far as near-ish forest parks, when I can take him to the lake or the beach, the cinema and the roller-rink, I want to do all of that. If there is a possibility of travelling across the country to see his cousins to belatedly celebrate their birthday that we missed, I want to do that. I don't want him to have to go from being at home all day to being at school all day.

I'm also hoping that in the next 3 months enough will have been learned about the way virus transmits that children will be able to return to schools that feel more normal. There is absolutely no way on earth I'll be sending a 7 year old into a school that looks like the schools we are seeing in France right now. It's better to wait and (hopefully) do it right than send children into a type of school setting that has the potential to be needlessly upsetting.

On reflection I think you are right .Three months is a long time away and gives us all time to get things right .We might be in a much better position by then and have a flatter curve and less fear of the unknown

Hearty80 · 18-05-2020 01:26PM

iguana wrote: »

As a parent I actually want to take some time in the summer to be able to enjoy the somewhat reopened country with my kid. He's spent most of the last 2+ months at home. When playgrounds reopen, when we can travel as far as near-ish forest parks, when I can take him to the lake or the beach, the cinema and the roller-rink, I want to do all of that. If there is a possibility of travelling across the country to see his cousins to belatedly celebrate their birthday that we missed, I want to do that. I don't want him to have to go from being at home all day to being at school all day.

I'm also hoping that in the next 3 months enough will have been learned about the way virus transmits that children will be able to return to schools that feel more normal. There is absolutely no way on earth I'll be sending a 7 year old into a school that looks like the schools we are seeing in France right now. It's better to wait and (hopefully) do it right than send children into a type of school setting that has the potential to be needlessly upsetting.

And it will be completely your choice to keep your child at home indefinitely. I dont think the government would force anyone to send their child to school.

Hurrache · 18-05-2020 01:26PM

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

Because it was a knee jerk panic reaction from the government with no evidence or measured planning.

That's not an answer. Tell us why the schools shouldn't have been closed like they have.

Hearty80 · 18-05-2020 01:27PM

Conelan wrote: »

Where do people get this BS??

Hello teacher

Hurrache · 18-05-2020 01:28PM

History Queen wrote: »

Source for your claims regarding the teachers union? Which union?

Conelan wrote: »

Where do people get this BS??

They're conflating their English tabloids, and their false stories as it is, with what's happening in Ireland.

Hearty80 wrote: »

Hello teacher

Or, based on this post, maybe they just don't read and make stuff up instead?

Hearty80 · 18-05-2020 01:29PM

Hurrache wrote: »

That's not an answer. Tell us why the schools shouldn't have been closed like they have.

Why don't you tell us, why they are still closed? Instead of bullying people who don't share your opinions.

History Queen · 18-05-2020 01:30PM

Hurrache wrote: »

They're conflating their English tabloids, and their false stories as it is, with what's happening in Ireland.

What are you talking about? Who is "they"?You said that you thought that the teachers union (you didn't say which one) had stopped the government opening schools. I asked where you got your information from?

Edit: Apologies Hurrache I thought your post was written by the other poster, I was awfully confused there for a second!

Hurrache · 18-05-2020 01:31PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Why don't you tell us, why they are still closed? Instead of bullying people who don't share your opinions.

I haven't made any claims that the schools shouldn't be closed contrary to health and government guidelines across the world, you have.

So tell us what you know, or what you made up, that nobody else knows.

If you feel being asked to answer a question about a statement you made is bullying, maybe you should just not say anything at all.

khalessi · 18-05-2020 01:32PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Why don't you tell us, why they are still closed? Instead of bullying people who don't share your opinions.

That is hilarous considering how you have got stuck into people on other threads

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 18-05-2020 01:33PM

Hurrache wrote: »

That's not an answer. Tell us why the schools shouldn't have been closed like they have.

For a minimum of 6 months?? Completely over the top.

Children labelled as disease ridden pests and barred from entering shops. It is very wrong, once it was evident that this was not the case then plans should have been made to start reopening.

Kids are only short of having to go around ringing a bell at this stage with the disgust and fear that all this scaremongering has achieved.

Hearty80 · 18-05-2020 01:33PM

Hurrache wrote: »

They're conflating their English tabloids, and their false stories as it is, with what's happening in Ireland.

Or, based on this post, maybe they just don't read and make stuff up instead?

Everyone knows how strong the teachers unions are. I may be mistaken but I believe teachers are the only ones sitting at home not working on full pay?? The government wanted to have the leaving cert in July but again had to retreat.

r93kaey5p2izun · 18-05-2020 01:34PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Everyone knows how strong the teachers unions are. I may be mistaken but I believe teachers are the only ones sitting at home not working on full pay?? The government wanted to have the leaving cert in July but again had to retreat.

You are mistaken. But you know that. Aren't you even a little bit embarrassed to post this drivel?

Hearty80 · 18-05-2020 01:35PM

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

For a minimum of 6 months?? Completely over the top.

Children labelled as disease ridden pests and barred from entering shops. It is very wrong, once it was evident that this was not the case then plans should have been made to start reopening.

Kids are only short of having to go around ringing a bell at this stage with the disgust and fear that all this scaremongering has achieved.

It's an absolute disgrace, my husband was told a few months ago in our local pet shop no children allowed. If front of our 7 year old. Italian parents are bringing civil action against the government for trauma caused to their children.

Hurrache · 18-05-2020 01:35PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Everyone knows how strong the teachers unions are. I may be mistaken but I believe teachers are the only ones sitting at home not working on full pay?? The government wanted to have the leaving cert in July but again had to retreat.

So you actually haven't seen anything from the the government asking them to return to work earlier than planned, nor have you seen anything about unions telling their teachers not to return work.

It's something that you admittedly made up.

Hearty80 · 18-05-2020 01:36PM

Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: »

You are mistaken. But you know that. Aren't you even a little bit embarrassed to post this drivel?

I'm embarrassed for you, with your sneering self important tone. You should be ashamed of yourself. Pathetic.

Hurrache · 18-05-2020 01:37PM

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

For a minimum of 6 months?? Completely over the top.

Children labelled as disease ridden pests and barred from entering shops. It is very wrong, once it was evident that this was not the case then plans should have been made to start reopening.

Kids are only short of having to go around ringing a bell at this stage with the disgust and fear that all this scaremongering has achieved.

We're not talking about shops, we're talking about schools.

What was wrong with the schools closing, and remaining closed?

Hearty80 · 18-05-2020 01:38PM

Hurrache wrote: »

So you actually haven't seen anything from the the government asking them to return to work earlier than planned, nor have you seen anything about unions telling their teachers not to return work.

It's something that you admittedly made up.

Oh the teachers are out in force today hahaha, everyone in my family has worked tirelessly throughout this pandemic. I'm actually embarrassed for teachers.

Benimar · 18-05-2020 01:38PM

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

For a minimum of 6 months?? Completely over the top.

Children labelled as disease ridden pests and barred from entering shops. It is very wrong, once it was evident that this was not the case then plans should have been made to start reopening.

Kids are only short of having to go around ringing a bell at this stage with the disgust and fear that all this scaremongering has achieved.

Secondary schools would be finished in 10 days anyway.

Kids weren’t barred from Woodies for being disease ridden, they were barred to stop parents bringing them in for a day out, and then leaving their little Jimmy run wild.

I’m not a teacher, but your claim about them refusing to go back is complete BS. The unions had already agreed to bring the LC students back in July until the stupid (government) decision to cancel it.

How will schools be able to go back in September?

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