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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #4442
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    What does Ireland have in common with Sao Paulo or anywhere in Brazil for that matter? And people were being ridiculed for comparing Ireland to Sweden.

    It was an example of a country that underplayed the seriousness of the coronavirus like many of the posters on this thread. Thought the pro economic brigade would identify with Jair.


  • #4443
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    road_high wrote: »
    Yea, just like they did in Nursing homes?

    Ah sure they shouldn't have bothered at all so with that devastating point you just made.


  • #4444
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Erm

    "Ireland is the fifth most generous country in the world and Europe’s most generous nation despite charitable giving falling in the world’s wealthiest countries over the past 10 years, according to the results of a study by the Charities Aid Foundation (CAF)."

    https://extra.ie/2019/10/15/business/irish/ireland-remains-5th-most-generous-nation-as-charitable-giving-declines-worldwide

    The article is from Oct 2019.

    This is a good thing btw, not something to be argued over. If you think Ireland staying in lockdown won't affect its ability (or ability of its citizens) to contribute to worldwide causes and ultimately help people on other continents then thats fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    Selfishness is a virtue btw.
    An Ayn Rand fan, I see?;) many people would consider it to be a sin.


  • #4445
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I know the government will resist but I seriously cannot imagine the majority happily sitting at home for almost another month waiting for another tiny shift of changes while almost no new cases are announnced each day by then

    I think Tony and the goverment have terrified people, most people think the virus is a lot more deadly than it is and don't realise than most of the deaths have been in nursing homes


  • #4446
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It was an example of a country that underplayed the seriousness of the coronavirus like many of the posters on this thread. Thought the pro economic brigade would identify with Jair.

    And how many people in Sao Paulo and across Brazil live in abject poverty in favelas? Have you encountered many Irish shanty towns in your travels? I'd also like to point out that Sao Paulo alone has three times the population of the whole of Ireland so you're comparing a tabby cat to a tiger.


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  • #4447
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    I think Tony and the goverment have terrified people, most people think the virus is a lot more deadly than it is and don't realise than most of the deaths have been in nursing homes

    Let's see how the second wave goes. Probably be grand


  • #4448
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It was an example of a country that underplayed the seriousness of the coronavirus like many of the posters on this thread. Thought the pro economic brigade would identify with Jair.

    Your concerns over Brazil covid impact and 0.007% of their population dying has been addressed multiple times last week.

    Why do you keep bringing this up? Brazil has over 210,000,000 people... this thread is about Ireland lifting restrictions.

    As is more people have died from road crashes in Brazil than Covid this year...

    Surely on a day of packed busses, construction workers breaking social distancing as early as 9:01 AM, you would have other topics to discuss?


  • #4449
    Podge201
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭Podge201


    People bulk buying toilet paper in local hardware store. Have they anything else to do.


  • #4450
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Your concerns over Brazil covid impact and 0.007% of their population dying has been addressed multiple times last week.

    Why do you keep bringing this up? Brazil has over 210,000,000 people... this thread is about Ireland lifting restrictions.

    As is more people have died from road crashes in Brazil than Covid this year...

    Surely on a day of packed busses, construction workers breaking social distancing as early as 9:01 AM, you would have other topics to discuss?

    Jair Bolsonaro.


  • #4451
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Your concerns over Brazil covid impact and 0.007% of their population dying has been addressed multiple times last week.

    Why do you keep bringing this up? Brazil has over 210,000,000 people... this thread is about Ireland lifting restrictions.

    As is more people have died from road crashes in Brazil than Covid this year...

    Surely on a day of packed busses, construction workers breaking social distancing as early as 9:01 AM, you would have other topics to discuss?

    And how many of Brazil's 210 million people have a quality of life comparable to the average Irish person? It's an utterly ridiculous comparison people are making and they're the very same ones who mocked people for comparing Ireland to Sweden


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  • #4452
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Does anyone know when DIY shops/Ikea will reopen?


  • #4453
    the kelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Ye cant be comparing us to Sweden, too many cultural differences blah blah but here have ye seen Brazil though!!


  • #4454
    [Deleted User]
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    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Your concerns over Brazil covid impact and 0.007% of their population dying has been addressed multiple times last week.

    Why do you keep bringing this up? Brazil has over 210,000,000 people... this thread is about Ireland lifting restrictions.

    As is more people have died from road crashes in Brazil than Covid this year...

    Surely on a day of packed busses, construction workers breaking social distancing as early as 9:01 AM, you would have other topics to discuss?


    The latest figures I can see for car crashed in Brazil is 2017 with 27000. So more people have died from COVID-19 than car crashes if we work off those figures. You don't dictate what I want to talk about by the way. But keep going with your false statistics :)


  • #4455
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Does anyone know when DIY shops/Ikea will reopen?

    Hardware stores should be open today

    Homeware like IKEA in three weeks time


  • #4456
    the kelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Does anyone know when DIY shops/Ikea will reopen?

    Monday the 18th of May.

    Ooops sorry my bad, thats a typo, June 8th i believe along with other small retail outlets i presume.

    And no i dont know what defines a small retail outlet either or no deinition as to what it is!


  • #4457
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Does anyone know when DIY shops/Ikea will reopen?
    DIY shops are already open.

    There's no specific guidance on IKEA, but given that it has a huge retail space and no doubt has a detailed plan on how to maintain social distancing, I expect they'll be able to open in phase 2 or 3.


  • #4458
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Does anyone know when DIY shops/Ikea will reopen?

    8th June I if all goes to plan.
    Unless there are more typo's on the plan :D


  • #4459
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,019 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    And how many of Brazil's 210 million people have a quality of life comparable to the average Irish person? It's an utterly ridiculous comparison people are making and they're the very same ones who mocked people for comparing Ireland to Sweden

    Likewise amusing how the people who couldn't get enough about Sweden are outraged at the mention of Brazil.


  • #4460
    MrDavid1976
    Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭MrDavid1976


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Hardware stores should be open today

    Homeware like IKEA in three weeks time

    Hardware stores are only open if it is absolutely essential. The advice remains to stay home.


  • #4461
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The latest figures I can see for car crashed in Brazil is 2017 with 27000. So more people have died from COVID-19 than car crashes if we work off those figures. You don't dictate what I want to talk about by the way. But keep going with your false statistics :)

    Actually 16,000 have died from covid in Brazil so he's right by a good 11,000.


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  • #4462
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    Carol25 wrote: »
    I’m just reading Luke O’Neil’s article in the Irish Independent and took this direct quote from the article:

    ‘The Irish Government is taking things cautiously, most likely because we are not where we want to be with testing, tracing and isolating. As well as protecting the vulnerable, this has to be the number one priority right now’.

    We’ve been closed since March...and they still have not the strictures in place that we need re testing. There needs to be more transparency with the public on what exactly is going on behind the scenes.
    This is costing lives, billions of Euros and thousands of jobs, the stakes could not be higher and the media’s incompetence in publishing the relevant information has been very poor during this crisis.

    Everyone in the world is looking for testing materials


  • #4463
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    The mandatory 14 day quarantine upon entry to the country should've been brought in when the schools closed.

    The fact that it still hasn't been brought in is a complete and utter joke.

    I still haven't heard a good explanation from anyone in power as to why it hasn't been implemented.

    The government need to grow a pair of balls and stop ****ing dithering.


  • #4464
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Likewise amusing how the people who couldn't get enough about Sweden are outraged at the mention of Brazil.


    So you feel that Brazil has more in common with ireland? I posted a big list of similarities Ireland and Sweden share already so I feel it's not an unfair comparison to draw.


  • #4465
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Hardware stores should be open today

    Homeware like IKEA in three weeks time


    Thanks!


  • #4466
    risteard7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭risteard7


    This thing of queuing outside shops doesn't make sense to me. Not everybody is 2 metres apart. When you go into the shop itself the aisles have only 1 or 2 people on them.

    You have to be at least 15 mins in close contact with an infected person, so you are more likely to get it standing in a long queue with others?


  • #4467
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The latest figures I can see for car crashed in Brazil is 2017 with 27000. So more people have died from COVID-19 than car crashes if we work off those figures. You don't dictate what I want to talk about by the way. But keep going with your false statistics :)

    I dont dictate by any means, a friendly advice given a lot of OT conversations yesterday.

    Below is from WHO. I dont know why but given population has grew, and Brazil government not really being on top of their game, I dont see how deaths per year would decrease since.

    "Road safety in Brazil. The Global status report on road safety 2013 estimates that more than 43 800 people are killed in road traffic crashes in Brazil every year. Road traffic crashes are a leading cause of death, injury and hospitalization, resulting in high economic and social costs."

    43,800 / 12 x 5 = more deaths than COVID.


  • #4468
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Annual Global Road Crash Statistics

    Approximately 1.35 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,700 people lose their lives every day on the roads.

    https://www.asirt.org/safe-travel/road-safety-facts/


  • #4469
    Conte..
    Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Conte..


    Very few masks worn at the supermearket today

    Still some idiots afraid to pass me on the footpath


  • #4470
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    risteard7 wrote: »
    This thing of queuing outside shops doesn't make sense to me. Not everybody is 2 metres apart. When you go into the shop itself the aisles have only 1 or 2 people on them.

    You have to be at least 15 mins in close contact with an infected person, so you are more likely to get it standing in a long queue with others?

    The theory is its harder to spread the virus outdoors afaik


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  • #4471
    risteard7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭risteard7


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    The theory is its harder to spread the virus outdoors afaik

    Maybe so, just my tuppence worth


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