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  • #2372
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,155 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    Most chemists have the disposable ones now, as do Eurosaver/Pound shops.


    We find the homemade cloth ones easier to wear.


  • #2373
    alentejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Please dispose masks in a suitable bin when finished with them. Starting to see masks as well as rubber gloves as general litter.


  • #2374
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes: other
    riffmongous wrote: »
    And the longer and with less thought a person wears one the more likely a person is to still transmit, and the more people and places they are worn the more likely this becomes.
    How? Unless you go around touching someone else's mask it's still reducing the exhalation of droplets. And it still never ceases to amaze me that the Irish seemingly alone in the world can't wear a mask, never mind the constant excuses thrown out for not wearing one.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #2375
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Beanybabog wrote: »
    No they’re paper. I got them, there wasn’t many left so I got a box before the announcement. I also got cloth masks, a lot of small shops near me are selling them for a fiver

    Seems to be quite expensive.


  • #2376
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,430 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    No: other
    YFlyer wrote: »
    Can the straps be adjusted?

    What type of mask was it?

    It’s a cotton mask with 2 layers, elastic loops for around the ears - the loops aren’t very big though - I think I might be able to adjust the loops to make them a bit stretchier...it was my first time wearing it so maybe they’ll stretch a bit more as time goes on.


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  • #2377
    thebiglad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭thebiglad


    No: other
    Our local dress maker (clothing adjustment shop, whatever you call them) in Rathcoole is making and selling them at €4 - if you have such an outlet local give them a call.


  • #2378
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    leahyl wrote: »
    It’s a cotton mask with 2 layers, elastic loops for around the ears - the loops aren’t very big though - I think I might be able to adjust the loops to make them a bit stretchier...it was my first time wearing it so maybe they’ll stretch a bit more as time goes on.

    You probably be better to have a few of them. Once worn and taken off, they should be washed and dried before wearing again.


  • #2379
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    Eurogiant has reusable face masks.


  • #2380
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,430 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    No: other
    YFlyer wrote: »
    You probably be better to have a few of them. Once worn and taken off, they should be washed and dried before wearing again.

    Oh yes definitely will wash this one...looking into other ones online that might be more comfortable


  • #2381
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Yes: valved
    Has anyone ordered the reusable ones from Vistaprint? They are expensive, but they look to much better fitting than any of the other ones I see for sale.


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  • #2382
    tromtipp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tromtipp


    Yes: surgical
    When I was making my own home-made version I found useful elastic in the hem of a rain jacket - sturdy, thick enough not to dig into my ears, thin enough not to make them stick out. Unfortunately I managed to make one loop slightly larger than the other so I'm asymmetrical - but properly covered, which is the important bit. I haven't used an insert, but was told the blown fabric type of reusable shopping bag is made of suitable stuff - breathable and easily washable.

    I'm wearing it partly as a public health measure, partly in the hope that it will encourage others to do likewise.

    I find the easiest thing is to put it on when leaving the house and take it off when I get home, then wash it immediately as I wash my hands - no problem wearing it for an hour or two.


  • #2383
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Yes: surgical
    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Going to order a pack of one of these two in the next hour



    https://www.fishersci.ie/shop/products/disposable-particulate-respirator/p-8001321


    https://www.fishersci.ie/shop/products/disposable-particulate-respirator/11713363


    Any thoughts on there being much of a difference between them?


    Their website is now down https://www.fishersci.ie/shop/products/disposable-particulate-respirator/11713363 and when I tried yesterday to register it was asking for a business number, even though they have a separate page for VAT registered businesses :confused:

    I left them a voicemail yesterday and I'll try them one more time Monday


    I'll be giving those Aldi (or is it LIDL) 90 cent masks and similar a miss. They look absolutely useless

    Still looking for 3M or similar high standard FFP2 masks and links would be welcome. Thanks


  • #2384
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    alentejo wrote: »
    Please dispose masks in a suitable bin when finished with them. Starting to see masks as well as rubber gloves as general litter.

    This one of the images Iv'e been posting on Social Media today. If people want or need mask message's made up, hit me.

    do-not-liter.jpg


  • #2385
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Yes: surgical
    PS

    These look a lot like the box of 50 Aldi/Lidl etc are selling for around 45 euros

    They're here for £10 Sterling plus P&P https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50pc-Anti-Haze-Washable-Breathable-Safety-Anti-Saliva-Non-Woven-Face-Cover-STOCK/353070635114?_trkparms=aid%3D1110004%26algo%3DSPLICE.COMP%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225114%26meid%3D6c195fa529b34de7b421739631c63526%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D153934768414%26itm%3D353070635114%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

    They look absolutely shíte quality though. They look about as protective as wrapping a load of toilet roll around your head


  • #2386
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Yes: surgical
    Another option https://www.vistaprint.ie/masks/

    Again, not for me as they're not FFP2

    Might be useful for others though


  • #2387
    riffmongous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Wibbs wrote: »
    How? Unless you go around touching someone else's mask it's still reducing the exhalation of droplets. And it still never ceases to amaze me that the Irish seemingly alone in the world can't wear a mask, never mind the constant excuses thrown out for not wearing one.

    I don't have to explain how touching a contaminated mask spread the contamination do I? How the longer and more often you change your mask the more this happens?

    I never said this was an excuse for not wearing one at the moment. Simply that wearing one is not as easy and risk free as some make out, especially when applied to the whole population.


  • #2388
    railer201
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    Yes: valved
    leahyl wrote: »
    It’s a cotton mask with 2 layers, elastic loops for around the ears - the loops aren’t very big though - I think I might be able to adjust the loops to make them a bit stretchier...it was my first time wearing it so maybe they’ll stretch a bit more as time goes on.

    It takes a few goes and some tweaking of the loop tension to get the required 'snug' fit, without the mask either slipping or hurting the ears. It took me about three days before my cotton face covering felt comfortable, so that I almost forgot it was on my face.

    The fact is that wearing any mask is a backward step comfort wise, however it's at least two steps forward as regarding protecting yourself and others.

    You don't have to use elastic, shoe laces work equally as well. You just try out different length loops, using simple reef knots, until you get the right size to loop round the ears.


  • #2389
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes: other
    riffmongous wrote: »
    I don't have to explain how touching a contaminated mask spread the contamination do I? How the longer and more often you change your mask the more this happens?
    Your logic is all over the place and sounds like the usual rehash of the copypasta HSE stuff on the matter to avoid the early panic buying.

    Again, who is touching the mask? The already infected aren't going to get any more infected and the droplets are still contained behind the mask so much less will transfer to their hands and thence to surfaces and much less can be passed to the healthy by breathing droplets in, the non infected have a higher risk, but if they're touching the outside of the mask after touching a contaminated surface it's still protecting their airways. And all the while exhalation droplets are overall still being reduced in the air.

    Find me a nation with low figures that didn't mandate masks in public places. I mean properly low figures, like under a couple of hundred. Good luck with that. Greece is the only outlier, but they clamped down extremely hard on border control and lockdowns. You couldn't leave your home without certification and had to carry ID and the police arrested nearly 400 people and handed out thousands of fines(they even confiscated car number plates). Now that Greece is trying to open up again they've mandated masks(and gloves) for all workers dealing with the public and are considering widening that. Look to the countries with the very lowest figures and guess what? Masks are front and centre. As they were as far back in the 1918 pandemic, or more recently with the SARS outbreak, where researchers in the areas hit viewed mask wearing as a strongly positive protection. And yet here we are in Ireland.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #2390
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Yes: surgical
    I refuse to wear masks, they have been shown to be totally useless and they're just too much hassle if you ask me. I fail to see how people covering their nose and mouth could have any affect on them transmitting a virus which inhales and exhales from and to these areas.




    (May contain heavy sarcasm)


  • #2391
    sternn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭sternn


    No: other
    I got a couple of face masks from the site www.cottonfacemasks.ie which was pretty nice. Expensive but saves getting the disposable ones.


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  • #2392
    riffmongous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Your logic is all over the place and sounds like the usual rehash of the copypasta HSE stuff on the matter to avoid the early panic buying.

    Again, who is touching the mask? The already infected aren't going to get any more infected and the droplets are still contained behind the mask so much less will transfer to their hands and thence to surfaces and much less can be passed to the healthy by breathing droplets in, the non infected have a higher risk, but if they're touching the outside of the mask after touching a contaminated surface it's still protecting their airways. And all the while exhalation droplets are overall still being reduced in the air.

    Find me a nation with low figures that didn't mandate masks in public places. I mean properly low figures, like under a couple of hundred. Good luck with that. Greece is the only outlier, but they clamped down extremely hard on border control and lockdowns. You couldn't leave your home without certification and had to carry ID and the police arrested nearly 400 people and handed out thousands of fines(they even confiscated car number plates). Now that Greece is trying to open up again they've mandated masks(and gloves) for all workers dealing with the public and are considering widening that. Look to the countries with the very lowest figures and guess what? Masks are front and centre. As they were as far back in the 1918 pandemic, or more recently with the SARS outbreak, where researchers in the areas hit viewed mask wearing as a strongly positive protection. And yet here we are in Ireland.

    I don't live in Ireland so I don't pay any attention to what the HSE says, nothing to do with us here. What I say comes from my experience working in a CBRN unit.

    Who is touching the mask? Almost everyone! Masks are mandatory in public transport and shops, so anyone who goes shopping on a Saturday afternoon will put on their mask to go on the bus/underground, then take it off and stuff it in their pocket, walk to the shop and take out the moist mask and put it back on again, then touch stuff in the shop. Then repeat a few times until they go home. This is simply the observable reality and all I've said.
    riffmongous wrote: »
    You're someone who has voluntarily chosen to wear a mask from the very beginning.. of course you are going to be more aware of what to do than most people. Where I live there has been a requirement to wear masks in certain places for a few weeks now and you can see loads of people wearing or using them incorrectly every time you look around. You will see this in Ireland too.

    It might not be rocket science to put on a mask, but using one correctly over longer periods requires quite a bit of discipline, education and thought. The good thing is though that the virus numbers are now so low that it's less of an issue if people are careless and the masks will still be useful.


  • #2393
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    riffmongous wrote: »
    I don't live in Ireland so I don't pay any attention to what the HSE says, nothing to do with us here. What I say comes from my experience working in a CBRN unit.

    My first thought was Homer Simpson, he really should be your avatar


  • #2394
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    sternn wrote: »
    I got a couple of face masks from the site www.cottonfacemasks.ie which was pretty nice. Expensive but saves getting the disposable ones.

    Vistaprint have got in on the act too. Expensive but sure look it.

    https://www.vistaprint.ie/masks/?utm_medium=referral_website&utm_source=vistaprint&utm_campaign=vp_masks_referral_link&utm_content=homepage_marquee_marquee


  • #2395
    riffmongous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    khalessi wrote: »
    My first thought was Homer Simpson, he really should be your avatar

    Would that make you Dr. Nick?


  • #2396
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    khalessi wrote: »
    My first thought was Homer Simpson, he really should be your avatar

    My bra mask gives makes me look a bit like Homer?

    Top tip people, if youve got kids who are a bit freaked out by all the masks and the whole virus thing, doing a little funny looking costume playing is a game changer.

    homer.png


  • #2397
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    riffmongous wrote: »
    Would that make you Dr. Nick?

    Nah I d be Barney
    Forgot to say that was a joke not meant in a mean way


  • #2398
    riffmongous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    khalessi wrote: »
    Nah I d be Barney
    Forgot to say that was a joke not meant in a mean way

    Ah sorry I thought you were being mean, no worries :o


  • #2399
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,512 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Seanergy wrote: »
    My bra mask gives makes me look a bit like Homer?

    Top tip people, if youve got kids who are a bit freaked out by all the masks and the whole virus thing, doing a little funny looking costume playing is a game changer.

    homer.png

    Why is the jumper the weirdest part of that photo?


  • #2400
    jackofalltrades
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Yes: other
    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Still looking for 3M or similar high standard FFP2 masks and links would be welcome. Thanks
    You could make something similar if you were stuck.



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  • #2401
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    No Worries, my bad, I googled CBRN unit and saw serious as **** explanation and the theme tune to The Simpsons entered my head. Ooops. Serious question though do you wear radiation badges


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