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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #4982
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    From what I am gathering the delays in online deliveries seem to be much more severe in Ireland than a lot of other countries in Europe. People locked at home have been left helpless.


  • #4983
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    fits wrote: »
    I’m not really following this thread anymore but just posting to say this. I know of two men who are/were in ICU with this. Both under 65. Both healthy. The very best case scenario is long term health issues. One has had 3 strokes. The other is still on a ventilator weeks at this stage. The fatality rate does not tell the whole story with this virus.

    Thank you so much for this. If the virus was allowed to run rampant throughout the population we would probably see a lot more of this.


  • #4984
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    :D:D yeah the very best long term scenario for 80+% of people who get this are either mild cases or completely asymptomatic are "long term health" issues ...

    'Mild' means not hospitalized. Not uncommon for people to be floored with this for 5/6/7 weeks without requiring hospital treatment.


  • #4985
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Thank you so much for this. If the virus was allowed to run rampant throughout the population we would probably see a lot more of this.

    Sorry but this post reeks of constant seeking of validation to keep the doom and gloom going ones my life.


  • #4986
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    ek motor wrote: »
    Even taking Germany's 0.25% death rate it's still more deadly and transmissible than influenza. Again, we have no full understanding of the long term effects but what evidence has come out so far has been extremely concerning.

    I am not in favour of us 'being locked up for months' at all. Many people seem to be unaware of simply in denial about the seriousness of this virus. We have managed to get the rate of infections down to between 100 - 200 only after 8 - 9 weeks of unprecedented restrictions.

    Do we wait until the virus is fully understood before living again? When this is over the effects of this attitude will be disastrous and very apparent.
    Suicide, drug addiction, massive job losses, mortgage stress, high taxes, a generation with zero prospects.

    You ignore all of the other issues coming down the line which will eclipse this not so very life threatening illness.


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  • #4987
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Sorry but this post reeks of constant seeking of validation to keep the doom and gloom going in my life.

    "Doom and Gloom", I guess you must have lost several loved ones to this then. I'm sorry for your loss.


  • #4988
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Onesea wrote: »
    Do we wait until the virus is fully understood before living again?

    Common sense plays a major part in all this. Travel restrictions mostly don’t apply to me and i get around due to the nature of my work so my day hasn’t changed much since the lockdown. I still interact with people but i keep the 2m distance and if i’m in a more enclosed area i wear a mask and use gloves. I also keep the hands sanatised and washed and so far i’m fine.


  • #4989
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Are there any theories out there from any our learned epidemiologists and immunologists or other assorted ‘ologists why large parts of Africa seem to be virtually unaffected by this pandemic despite having some of the most underdeveloped countries on earth.


  • #4990
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    timsey tiger wrote: »


    "Doom and Gloom", I guess you must have lost several loved ones to this then. I'm sorry for your loss.

    I wasn’t talking about me lol, but i suspect this post was sarcasm.


  • #4991
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Are there any theories out there from any our learned epidemiologists and immunologists or other assorted ‘ologists why large parts of Africa seem to be virtually unaffected by this pandemic despite having some of the most underdeveloped countries on earth.

    Ridiculously young populations, in some African countries the average age of a resident is a teenager


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  • #4992
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Common sense plays a major part in all this. Travel restrictions mostly don’t apply to me and i get around due to the nature of my work so my day hasn’t changed much since the lockdown. I still interact with people but i keep the 2m distance and if i’m in a more enclosed area i wear a mask and use gloves. I also keep the hands sanatised and washed and so far i’m fine.

    Good stuff, reasonable measures and you get to keep working away.

    I had two weeks of disinfecting the handles of our apartment block. Now I'm not so bothered, but I do wash the hand when coming home from any outings.


  • #4993
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Common sense plays a major part in all this. Travel restrictions mostly don’t apply to me and i get around due to the nature of my work so my day hasn’t changed much since the lockdown. I still interact with people but i keep the 2m distance and if i’m in a more enclosed area i wear a mask and use gloves. I also keep the hands sanatised and washed and so far i’m fine.

    Good stuff, reasonable measures and you get to keep working away.

    I had two weeks of disinfecting the handles of our apartment block. Now I'm not so bothered, but I do wash the hand when coming home from any outings.


  • #4994
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Are there any theories out there from any our learned epidemiologists and immunologists or other assorted ‘ologists why large parts of Africa seem to be virtually unaffected by this pandemic despite having some of the most underdeveloped countries on earth.

    WHO predicts a quarter of a billion cases in Africa -

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/may/15/africa-facing-a-quarter-of-a-billion-coronavirus-cases-who-predicts

    As for why the numbers are so low, I'd hazard a guess its because many African countries are underdeveloped and many births and deaths go unregistered.


  • #4995
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    ek motor wrote: »
    WHO predicts a quarter of a billion cases in Africa -

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/may/15/africa-facing-a-quarter-of-a-billion-coronavirus-cases-who-predicts

    As for why the numbers are so low, I'd hazard a guess its because many African countries are underdeveloped and many births and deaths go unregistered.

    Shouldn't that be predicted...africa should be decimated by this. But they won't be.


  • #4996
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-dogs-could-sniff-out-up-to-250-people-an-hour-for-coronavirus-11989180

    Sniffer dogs could be used to detect covid in people before symptoms appear


  • #4997
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Onesea wrote: »
    Good stuff, reasonable measures and you get to keep working away.

    I had two weeks of disinfecting the handles of our apartment block. Now I'm not so bothered, but I do wash the hand when coming home from any outings.

    Yep and it’s not a huge task to do these things. You get used to doing it. I also find people respecting the 2 metre rule no problem without me having to remind them. I also see people coughing or sneezing into their elbows as advised. The numbers reducing are a lot to do with this.


  • #4998
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Ridiculously young populations, in some African countries the average age of a resident is a teenager

    Goal posts moving..


  • #4999
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Are there any theories out there from any our learned epidemiologists and immunologists or other assorted ‘ologists why large parts of Africa seem to be virtually unaffected by this pandemic despite having some of the most underdeveloped countries on earth.

    I've not heard of any theories so far but one reason the case numbers may be a lot lower is that most of these countries don't have the wherewithal to carry out extensive testing so many cases may be going unrecorded. South Africa which is probably a bit better organised is seeing steady day on day increases.

    I wonder if many people from less developed parts of the world might have immune systems that behave differently to those in the more developed world as they're exposed to a lot more on an everyday basis.


  • #5000
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    https://time.com/5837596/new-york-mayor-announces-nypd-will-scale-back-social-distancing-enforcement/?amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DrRJKavanagh/status/1260739779177656325


  • #5001
    John.Icy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Onesea wrote: »
    Goal posts moving..

    It is not moving the goalposts. The median age of the whole continent is ~20 years old. It's very unlikely an illness that primarily causes mortality in 70+ years old will cause much of a stir there, despite poor infrastructure in parts.


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  • #5002
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Good news

    So we are not doing so bad, judging by recent industry figures from Eurostat.

    Ireland surged by 15% in March, likely due to the huge pharma/medical devices sector.

    https://twitter.com/danobrien20/status/1260586251700273154


  • #5003
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Good news

    So we are not doing so bad, judging by recent industry figures from Eurostat.

    https://twitter.com/danobrien20/status/1260586251700273154

    Would be great if we could expand on this, also other items needed going forward masks, sanitizer etc.


  • #5004
    Ce he sin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Ce he sin


    Onesea wrote: »
    Shouldn't that be predicted...africa should be decimated by this. But they won't be.


    "Decimated" is literally one in ten dying so that won't happen.
    Africa has a young population (rather fewer than here live to old age), not much testing is done and so many die that the extra deaths are less likely to be noticed.
    Being in a hot place won't help you (see Brazil) and being African or of African origin won't help either (see the race profile of those who die in Europe and America).


  • #5005
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Have all of Ireland's 19,470 'recoveries' been tested to ensure they are clear of the virus or is the figure speculative ?


  • #5006
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Jesus lads. Yous come across as people afraid of their own shadows. A bit of perspective - most of us won't get it, and most of us who do will survive. That doesn't mean I don't care about nursing homes/vulnerable etc. - that of course needs to be managed better.

    But ffs, calm down a bit. My 80 yr old mother is calmer than the lot of ye.

    6034073


    In terms of risk appetite, this new poll from the Journal, for what it's worth, on appetite for travel, does seem to be a reflection of general views on here in terms of different perspectives on how to get on with life vs avoiding the virus.

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  • #5007
    Azatadine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1261605673713971201?s=19


  • #5008
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Onesea wrote: »
    Goal posts moving..
    No they're called facts. If you read "study shows university students have almost no deaths from Covid19" would you question it, or agree that in a population with the vast majority under 30 you'll have almost no deaths from a disease that primarily attacks and kills people of retirement age? In other news men have massively lower cases of breast cancer. :eek:

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #5009
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Azatadine wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1261605673713971201?s=19

    If you into the detail in the twitter thread it appears to be indicating very positive news both about antibodies being developed by those who get COVID, but also indicates that there appears to be a level of immunity to COVID due to another coronavirus which causes the common cold, if I've understood what they are saying correctly

    Hopefully some on here who understands this stuff can correct me if I've got it wrong


  • #5010
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    The COVID ward in Cork University Hospital has been dispanded, yet we're paying €115,000,000 per month to keep private hospitals empty, not diagnosing and treating enough people with non-COVID illnesses, stopping people from seeing their family and friends, stopping people from earning an honest living.

    https://twitter.com/drcsadlier/status/1261244094938058752


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  • #5011
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    GazzaL wrote: »
    The COVID ward in Cork University Hospital has been dispanded, yet we're paying €115,000,000 per month to keep private hospitals empty, not diagnosing and treating enough people with non-COVID illnesses, stopping people from seeing their family and friends, stopping people from earning an honest living.

    https://twitter.com/drcsadlier/status/1261244094938058752
    Cork has the 6th lowest case's per population in the country so this is no surprise honestly. We never had more than 40 cases at once in the hospital.


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