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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    So the roadmap two weeks ago included "electrical, office products, homeware, and hardware shops'

    Today that appears to have changed to hardware only.

    Have I got that completely wrong?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    I will in my arse wear a facemask like some unhinged hypochondriac.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Let's make no qualms, the only hospitals still effected hugely by COVID-19 are based in Dublin. I think it might actually be time to consider a two tier approach and lift lockdown in the countryside before Dublin.

    I will agree with you on this. There is absolutely no reason to keep the majority of the country under lock and key when the overwhelming majority of cases are located in Dublin and there are tumbleweeds blowing everywhere else.

    On a separate note, we will look back on this in years to come and realise it was the biggest over reaction in our country’s history. And we will be picking up the pieces from the collateral damage for years to come. People are going to die as a result of these nonsensical decisions and it isn’t going to be because there’s no room at the inn. There’s plenty of room, but ejits in charge.
    And make no mistake about it, the median age profile of those who die will be a lot younger than 85 years old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    This is so sad.

    "The shift in position will come as a disappointment to homeware stores that have spent time and money in the last couple of weeks preparing to reopen on Monday.

    Just two days ago Ikea said it was planning to open its Dublin stores, subject to the Government giving approval for the first phase of lockdown restrictions to be lifted.

    The company said the stores would be taking a number of measures to ensure the health and safety of its customers and staff."

    Its like our government wants to be sued as much as possible.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0515/1138699-ikea-stores-will-not-reopen-on-monday/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I will in my arse wear a facemask like some unhinged hypochondriac.

    Ditto.. I'll continue to observe social distancing, wash my hands, minimise trips to shops etc, but I won't be wearing masks or freaking out every time I pass another human being.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Totally. I go to the nearest shop, as quickly as I can, grab the first bread loaf I see, buy it, come home see that it expires today and eat it all.

    Am I doing it right, save the 70 year olds? :rolleyes:

    Is this the "the world has changed, and people need to adapt" we've been preached?

    Nah it's called not being a dick. I used to be similar with fruit but if I mindlessly handle something in the store now I'll make sure to throw it into the basket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    So you feel that someone who’s been at home since 12th March and likely doesn’t have COVID19 should go into an unfamiliar environment and mix with people highly likely exposed to the virus, spend full days there in close contact with no PPE or reassurance around sanitation, and then come home to their own families (there was no mention of who would mind childcare workers kids in the plan) and potentially spread the virus?

    Do you think people working in supermarkets shouldn’t have the protective screens/gloves/face masks on either?

    On the 13th March there was a Facebook group set up for to match childcare workers with frontline families needing childcare btw. The day after the crèches and preschools and schools closed.

    Also, the concern around transmission from the govts point of view was that the worker (at home since 12th March) was more likely to bring the virus into the frontline worker’s home than the other way around - not sure how they figured that out but it makes no sense to me.

    There have also been many comments on social media from frontline workers saying thank you for the claps but pay us and protect us properly so while it is a nice gesture, it is of course of no consequence to the health service whether 1 person or 1 million people clap for them.

    I... I honestly couldn't bring myself to read that post. I made up an opinion of from your other post. Toodles.

    Ps,
    This is where you get back saying "well if you don't read" blah blah you won the internet argument. Rabble rabble. All horse manure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    From Monday, r we allowed meet up with 4 people outside ur household?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Nah it's called not being a dick.

    If you dont look at what you buy because you are scared of leaving your germs on food you touch in a supermarket (even though you should wash your hands prior to leaving your home) its called being daft, and will result in food poisoning sooner or later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    fin12 wrote: »
    From Monday, r we allowed meet up with 4 people outside ur household?

    Yep, so long as that meeting is outdoors and within 5km of your home


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭MrDavid1976


    Stheno wrote: »
    So the roadmap two weeks ago included "electrical, office products, homeware, and hardware shops'

    Today that appears to have changed to hardware only.

    Have I got that completely wrong?

    No completely right. Quite frankly, someone sensible will rightfully start taking court proceedings in respect to this continued shutdown. The quarantining from other EU countries will definitely not survive a court challenge particularly if we are out of step with the rest of the EU. I am wondering when more people will push back against Project Fear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    This makes 0 sense.

    Homeware stores are just as huge as hardware so social distancing etc can be practised identically in both. What is this i dont even...

    Would it not make sense to have more large stores than a limited number? So now the people who would have went to ikea might go to woodies to look for the things they wanted as there’s overlap. The more of them that are open the less people who go to each


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭uli84


    I hate them, I hate myself for not being able to deal with it. I am so tired of all this, was looking forward to Monday and they took it away just like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    fin12 wrote: »
    From Monday, r we allowed meet up with 4 people outside ur household?

    No! you can meet up with 3 people, max group of 4 and social distancing complied with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    the kelt wrote: »
    It’s all turning into a bit of a fiasco.

    I mean in 24 hours we have it revealed that basically NPHET were writing cheques that the HSE couldn’t cash in regards to testing etc and when the HSE raised this with the minister it remained unanswered for weeks.

    Then we have 244 new cases casually thrown on to the list for last night, oh sorry they’re actually cases that were going back to March but we aren’t naming where it was. But it’s revealed it’s the Mater who then have released their own statement that in fact they did provide the numbers who don’t blame us with no further comment from the HSE.

    And then for the last 2 weeks we have business preparing to open on the 18th based on the roadmap only to be told today, oops sorry, bit of a typo there on that one, yeah you can’t open and anyway there will be too many people trying to go but it will be grand in 3 weeks when the 5k restriction changes to 20k.

    But we better rush through the old horse racing, I mean we can’t have that being as far back as it was, feck the store owners let’s get them millionaire horse trainers back in action.

    And we have performing seals here talking about the science behind these decisions and all the metrics and data etc that are used, now stfah and stop asking questions, aghhhh we’re all going to die cos you won’t stay at home!!

    Id thank this a million times if i could. Spot on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    My god there are some rebels out there all the same. With little ability to cope. Gawd help you..


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    No completely right. Quite frankly, someone sensible will rightfully start taking court proceedings in respect to this continued shutdown. The quarantining from other EU countries will definitely not survive a court challenge particularly if we are out of step with the rest of the EU. I am wondering when more people will push back against Project Fear.

    I did get it wrong. IT,phone, electrical and office product shops can reopen Monday

    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/3736c7-government-approves-moving-to-phase-1-of-easing-covid-19-restriction/#list-of-retailers-that-can-open-on-18-may


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,550 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    cosanostra wrote: »
    Anyone know where factories fit in on the roadmap? If you manufacture for the construction industry can you claim to fall into the 1st phase and reopen on monday?

    Yes. I know of local Joinerys, kitchen suppliers, flooring suppliers, tilers, etc are all opening on Monday. Thank fcuk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Beanybabog wrote: »
    Would it not make sense to have more large stores than a limited number? So now the people who would have went to ikea might go to woodies to look for the things they wanted as there’s overlap. The more of them that are open the less people who go to each

    Exactly, I had the same thoughts during 2km restrictions, i live in a town with roughly 1500 people, so you had all the people from the housing estates sharing a limited number of footpath space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    uli84 wrote: »
    I hate them, I hate myself for not being able to deal with it. I am so tired of all this, was looking forward to Monday and they took it away just like that.

    Took what away? A trip to IKEA??!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,550 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Ditto.. I'll continue to observe social distancing, wash my hands, minimise trips to shops etc, but I won't be wearing masks or freaking out every time I pass another human being.

    Ditto. I will never wear a mask. The mask is 2020’s tinfoil hat.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I love masks. I wear oversized ones so they hide my dark circles and hungover head. Every cloud and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    Benimar wrote: »
    Took what away? A trip to IKEA??!

    Maybe the person was referring to work or something. Maybe they work in a homeware store.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Ditto. I will never wear a mask. The mask is 2020’s tinfoil hat.

    Why's that ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    16:129?

    Skip to phase five!

    Clear those beer taps and open those barbers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I’m immunocompromised but hubs and I have made the decision that when the general public begins to relax restrictions, we’re going to as well. I can’t live like that, watching everyone else move on with their lives whilst I hide away. I already am in a lonely place as being terminally ill is something you can only understand if you are in that position. It would be excruciating to watch everyone get on with it. So I’m going to take my chances. Take all the known precautions and get on with it.

    It’s for my husband too. If it would be hard for me, imagine how hard it would be for a fully healthy young man to have to cocoon whilst the world gets back to normal. I cannot do that to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    I wont wear a mask either for the following reasons

    1: i dont see it making a difference, 2: unless you have multiple you are using the same one all the time..not exactly hygienic, 3: My sinuses aint they best so i couldnt possibly breathe properly if im wearing a mask.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭MrDavid1976


    Stheno wrote: »

    Apologies - I was thinking about the homeware that was taken out.

    Although is Ikea homeware? . Don’t you get lots of materials in a box with some screws and then you have to make something. And they sell meatballs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭uli84


    Benimar wrote: »
    Took what away? A trip to IKEA??!

    No but even if, at this stage, a stupid visit to a shop might have been a highlight to someone considering everything is closed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,550 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    ek motor wrote: »
    Why's that ?

    It really doesn’t require explanation.


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