Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

poppers · 15-05-2020 04:30PM

eagle eye wrote: »

And still no facemask order. Was this idiot Varadkar really a doctor? I find it very hard to believe he had the intelligence to get into medical school.

He Literally said to wear them(face coverings) on public transport and indoor retail outlets.

Stheno · 15-05-2020 04:31PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Nothing on cocooning??

Stays the same

leahyl · 15-05-2020 04:32PM

Stheno wrote: »

Stays the same

Hopefully that will change on 8th June and over 70's will be "allowed" to go shopping - my poor mother misses the supermarket :pac:

New Home · 15-05-2020 04:32PM

eagle eye wrote: »

And still no facemask order. Was this idiot Varadkar really a doctor? I find it very hard to believe he had the intelligence to get into medical school.

Indoors face covering. It's a tiny step in the right direction.

dmc17 · 15-05-2020 04:34PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

That’ll be checkpoints needed at the gates of tennis and golf clubs then.

Where did I leave my golf racket.....?

New Home · 15-05-2020 04:34PM

eagle eye wrote: »

And still no facemask order. Was this idiot Varadkar really a doctor? I find it very hard to believe he had the intelligence to get into medical school.

"Hi, everybody!"
"Hi, Dr. Phil Leo Phil!

podgeandrodge · 15-05-2020 04:34PM

New Home wrote: »

Indoors face covering. It's a tiny step in the right direction.

Have they explained why we didn't need face coverings for the 2 worst months of the virus and now they think we should? If social distancing remains the same, why the change? Or is it to keep pro-maskers (sounds like pro lifers hah) happy that they can have a "recommendation"?

eagle eye · 15-05-2020 04:34PM

podgeandrodge wrote:

He added that while he agrees on flattening the curve through a lockdown, "they will not prevent people from coming infected in the future".

Yeah, I see he doesn't mention quarantine anywhere. If we get rid of it in this country and quarantine all incomers then it never gets back in. Simple stuff from somebody who is not a scientist or a medical professional.

Atlantic Dawn · 15-05-2020 04:36PM

What I don't understand is how public transport will run on Monday with current seating restrictions in place.

Eod100 · 15-05-2020 04:38PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What I don't understand is how public transport will run on Monday with current seating restrictions in place.

Yeah you'd wonder. Not sure how many thousands are returning to work but maybe places could stagger opening times or for anyone who can to drive, cycle or walk?

Harry Palmr · 15-05-2020 04:39PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Have they explained why we didn't need face coverings for the 2 worst months of the virus and now they think we should? If social distancing remains the same, why the change? Or is it to keep pro-maskers (sounds like pro lifers hah) happy that they can have a "recommendation"?

As the restrictions are lifted there will be more people in the same areas in closer proximity for longer times than previously.

eagle eye · 15-05-2020 04:40PM

Eod100 wrote:

Yeah you'd wonder. Not sure how many thousands are returning to work but maybe places could stagger opening times or for anyone who can to drive, cycle or walk?

And then the Greens get into government and you are not allowed drive to work.

Atlantic Dawn · 15-05-2020 04:40PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Yeah you'd wonder. Not sure how many thousands are returning to work but maybe places could stagger opening times or for anyone who can to drive, cycle or walk?

Yes I'd see potential doubling of current numbers at peak especially for those in retail reopening. (still probably 25% or less of pre covid peak travel).

ACitizenErased · 15-05-2020 04:41PM

Anyone else hear the name of the hospital that fecked up yesterday? Few people I've spoken to are fairly convinced it's a certain private hospital in Dublin.

stephenjmcd · 15-05-2020 04:42PM

poppers wrote: »

He Literally said to wear them(face coverings) on public transport and indoor retail outlets.

Not mandatory only advice

SeaBreezes · 15-05-2020 04:42PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

A former state epidemiologist for Sweden has claimed Ireland's coronavirus lockdown is pushing the serious cases into the future.

Dr Johan Giesecke has also claimed the Irish approach is "destroying the fabric" of our society and economy.

Sweden has never gone into full lockdown - instead opting for a 'soft' approach.

They are keeping shops and restaurants open, and relying on people limiting their contact with other people.

Over 3,500 people have died there, but the hope is most of the population would be immune if there is a second wave.

Dr Giesecke, who is advising the Swedish government on its approach, told Newstalk Breakfast it is a better approach than the path Ireland is taking.

"One example is your neighbour the United Kingdom: they have more deaths per million inhabitants than Sweden has.

"And they've had a rather severe lockdown all the time, that's one example".

"The other is that what you do is you push your cases into the future - many people will get infected once you open the lockdown".

"But you can't keep a lockdown in Ireland for a year, that would be impossible."

He said he believes ultimately everyone will get the virus: "That's true for all respiratory tract infections like this - influenza, measles - you can't get rid of them without a vaccine.

"If a good vaccine comes along, then I'm wrong - but if not, everyone will get it in the end".

"I don't think that the serial lock-up is a very good solution.

"You're destroying the fabric of your society and your economy - and you [are] pushing the serious cases into the future."

He added that while he agrees on flattening the curve through a lockdown, "they will not prevent people from coming infected in the future".

https://twitter.com/JohnRoss43/status/1259087315693121537

And isnt that the whole point? Slowing the virus down enough so Health Systems can catch up and those who need the hospital care have access to it and survive.
And giving us time to learn more about it and treat it more effectively, so when we DO get it, we are given effective remedys?

I think the Dr that advised Sweden mucked up, and is desperately trying to justify bad decisions..

Sparko · 15-05-2020 04:42PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Anyone else hear the name of the hospital that fecked up yesterday? Few people I've spoken to are fairly convinced it's a certain private hospital in Dublin.

The Mater.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/mater-identified-as-hospital-which-reported-244-covid-19-cases-late-1.4254371?mode=amp

Duke of Url · 15-05-2020 04:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Anyone else hear the name of the hospital that fecked up yesterday? Few people I've spoken to are fairly convinced it's a certain private hospital in Dublin.

The mater private?

Stheno · 15-05-2020 04:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Anyone else hear the name of the hospital that fecked up yesterday? Few people I've spoken to are fairly convinced it's a certain private hospital in Dublin.

It's been widely reported that it was the Mater

They have said they did report the numbers

Morrison J · 15-05-2020 04:44PM

The people being allergic to face masks seems a bit of a cop out to make it mandatory. Surely people can find a material they aren't allergic to and cover their faces that way?

Should 100% be mandatory on public transport.

Eod100 · 15-05-2020 04:44PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Yes I'd see potential doubling of current numbers at peak especially for those in retail reopening. (still probably 25% or less of pre covid peak travel).

Yeah any increase would be a lot given current frequency of services and with seat restrictions. Especially in Dublin say

GazzaL · 15-05-2020 04:48PM

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1261321067936780289

According to our glorious leaders, a hardware shop that sells homeware can open, but a homeware shop that sells hardware cannot. How ****ing stupid is that?

political analyst · 15-05-2020 04:49PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JohnRoss43/status/1259087315693121537

And isnt that the whole point? Slowing the virus down enough so Health Systems can catch up and those who need the hospital care have access to it and survive.
And giving us time to learn more about it and treat it more effectively, so when we DO get it, we are given effective remedys?

I think the Dr that advised Sweden mucked up, and is desperately trying to justify bad decisions..

To say the economy should stay closed until a vaccine is produced is like, as Ian O'Doherty put it in an Indo article earlier this week, banning travel by motor vehicle just because of fatal road accidents.

JP100 · 15-05-2020 04:49PM

Morrison J wrote: »

The people being allergic to face masks seems a bit of a cop out to make it mandatory. Surely people can find a material they aren't allergic to and cover their faces that way?

Should 100% be mandatory on public transport.

Special needs children especially ones with autism would have sensory issues whereby getting them to wear a mask would be impossible for a lot of them.

podgeandrodge · 15-05-2020 04:49PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

As the restrictions are lifted there will be more people in the same areas in closer proximity for longer times than previously.

will there really though in your local supermarket? Everyone nearly had one nearby regardless all along. I think they are just masking the truth hear to keep pro maskers happy

Morrison J wrote: »

Should 100% be mandatory on public transport.

I do agree with masks on public transport, as people are near each other for an extended period of time. So I don't want to sound anti mask - I just feel that it is dependent on the circumstances. And a quick trip for a pint of milk is ott imo.

An Ciarraioch · 15-05-2020 04:50PM

The UK R number is increasing again, according to the BBC, largely driven by the epidemic spreading in care homes:

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52677194

Eod100 · 15-05-2020 04:51PM

GazzaL wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1261321067936780289

According to our glorious leaders, a hardware shop that sells homeware can open, but a homeware shop that sells hardware cannot. How ****ing stupid is that?

Is it really that much of a big deal?

eagle eye · 15-05-2020 04:52PM

niallo27 wrote:

Germany has only 148 new cases today, their lowest in weeks.

Answering my own question which I didn't see an answer to. They update their numbers throughout the day. It's 248 now.

touts · 15-05-2020 04:52PM

GazzaL wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1261321067936780289

According to our glorious leaders, a hardware shop that sells homeware can open, but a homeware shop that sells hardware cannot. How ****ing stupid is that?

Well Grafton Group will be very happy with Fine Gael today.

dmc17 · 15-05-2020 04:52PM

"The matter is being investigated" :pac:

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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