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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    I must have missed the love blossoming between you and retro: electro on these forums.

    We’ve been pals both on Boards and off it, for years :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Speaking of grannies, a 113 year old woman in Spain ( i think) beat Covid-19.

    Seen that. Meanwhile in Ireland people are suggesting no school in September without a vaccine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    Nobody is slating Tony, he has done a great job but the figure today (without seperation of historic v live cases) gives them all the ammo they need to turn around tomorrow and extend restrictions. I sincerely hope they push on with the plan but if not, then serious questions need to be asked of the figures today and why they included historic figures.

    I think that question needs to be asked of the hospital which had not reported figures going back to March. It also needs to be asked how it was not noticed by those collating the hospital figures that nothing was being reported by this hospital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Typical attitude on this thread.

    Send granny to an early grave in the name of covering up a few grey hairs!!

    I am a granny and still want a haircut !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    In all seriousness, my hairdresser who is one of my dearest friends has been ready to open for weeks now. She has spent the last few weeks locating PPE for her workers and her clients. She’s fully stocked on hand sanitiser and has taken an online course on sanitation and disinfection practices in order to up skill and instill confidence in her clientele. She started this business from nothing and has built it up and is now one of the most popular and well established salons in our area. She’s absolutely devastated that she can’t open until July, and has stated that opening in July could mean she won’t be opening at all. Her line of thinking is she mostly sees the backs of people’s heads, and if people wear masks and gloves she isn’t putting them at risk nor them her. She is genuinely upset because she fits wigs and hair pieces to people who suffer from alopecia and those undergoing chemo.

    These pieces cannot be removed by the client and can only be removed by a professional so these people risk even further hair loss or severe damage to any regrowth because they have to remove them themselves as they grow out. It’s all good and well thinking Mary down the road needs her blue rinse and yes it would be lovely to get my colour done; but realistically hairdressers provide a service far beyond what most of us will ever access. It’s a form of therapy for some people and it shouldn’t be scoffed at or seen as non essential. I don’t care what people think of that. People should be let take the risk for themselves. Wear the mask, sanitise the hands, and a no chat rule because there’ll be nothing to chat about with the hairdressers anymore because nobody has any holidays to go on lol


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭MrDavid1976


    Seen that. Meanwhile in Ireland people are suggesting no school in September without a vaccine

    The tough GAA men have said they are not playing either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Wow.

    "A 113-year-old woman believed to be the oldest person living in Spain has survived after contracting Covid-19. "

    Fintan, what is this? Tony H must be fuming, disease is clearly getting weaker by the day

    A fundemental and deliberate complete misrepresentation of the mechanics of Covid 19.

    And childish to boot.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In all seriousness, my hairdresser who is one of my dearest friends has been ready to open for weeks now. She has spent the last few weeks locating PPE for her workers and her clients. She’s fully stocked on hand sanitiser and has taken an online course on sanitation and disinfection practices in order to up skill and instill confidence in her clientele. She started this business from nothing and has built it up and is now one of the most popular and well established salons in our area. She’s absolutely devastated that she can’t open until July, and has stated that opening in July could mean she won’t be opening at all. Her line of thinking is she mostly sees the backs of people’s heads, and if people wear masks and gloves she isn’t putting them at risk nor them her. She is genuinely upset because she fits wigs and hair pieces to people who suffer from alopecia and those undergoing chemo.

    These pieces cannot be removed by the client and can only be removed by a professional so these people risk even further hair loss or severe damage to any regrowth because they to remove them themselves as they grow out. It’s all good and well thinking Mary down the road needs her blue rinse and yes it would be lovely to get my colour done; but realistically hairdressers provide a service far beyond what most of us will ever access. It’s a form of therapy for some people and it shouldn’t be scoffed at or seen as non essential. I don’t care what people think of that. People should be let take the risk for themselves. Wear the mask, sanitise the hands, and a no chat rule because there’ll be nothing to chat about with the hairdressers anymore because nobody has any holidays to go on.

    Surely for someone with an underlying condition requiring fitting of a wig or similar could easily be classed as essential service


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    A fundemental and deliberate complete misrepresentation of the mechanics of Covid 19.

    And childish to boot.

    Can you explain what you mean?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭MrDavid1976


    In all seriousness, my hairdresser who is one of my dearest friends has been ready to open for weeks now. She has spent the last few weeks locating PPE for her workers and her clients. She’s fully stocked on hand sanitiser and has taken an online course on sanitation and disinfection practices in order to up skill and instill confidence in her clientele. She started this business from nothing and has built it up and is now one of the most popular and well established salons in our area. She’s absolutely devastated that she can’t open until July, and has stated that opening in July could mean she won’t be opening at all. Her line of thinking is she mostly sees the backs of people’s heads, and if people wear masks and gloves she isn’t putting them at risk nor them her. She is genuinely upset because she fits wigs and hair pieces to people who suffer from alopecia and those undergoing chemo.

    These pieces cannot be removed by the client and can only be removed by a professional so these people risk even further hair loss or severe damage to any regrowth because they to remove them themselves as they grow out. It’s all good and well thinking Mary down the road needs her blue rinse and yes it would be lovely to get my colour done; but realistically hairdressers provide a service far beyond what most of us will ever access. It’s a form of therapy for some people and it shouldn’t be scoffed at or seen as non essential. I don’t care what people think of that. People should be let take the risk for themselves. Wear the mask, sanitise the hands, and a no chat rule because there’ll be nothing to chat about with the hairdressers anymore because nobody has any holidays to go on lol

    The rules are nuts. No logic. No understanding for any human dimension. The “plan” was written by people who do not have a clue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am a granny and still want a haircut !!

    I heard they opened up the hairdressers in New Zealand and they all started queuing up around midnight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Colibri


    I wonder how many ministers are breaking the lockdown rules.. :pac:


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The thing that’s upsetting me most is them bloody fckuing stupid 5km rule. Like we’re meant to thank Tony and Leo for this ?

    No point is saying I can visit 3 friends on Monday , they all live more than 5km away , in fact more than 20km away. To think I can’t see anyone in my family and my friends till 20 July is beyond depressing at this stage.

    8 weeks of this , and then a further 2.5 months till 20 th July !! Why??
    My sister and my daughter both in UK are free to go anywhere already.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The thing that’s upsetting me most is them bloody fckuing stupid 5km rule. Like we’re meant to thank Tony and Leo for this ?

    No point is saying I can visit 3 friends on Monday , they all live more than 5km away , in fact more than 20km away. To think I can’t see anyone in my family and my friends till 20 July is beyond depressing at this stage.

    8 weeks of this , and then a further 2.5 months till 20 th July !! Why??
    My sister and my daughter both in UK are free to go anywhere already.

    The continuation of the 5k or 20k as restrictions lift are the most ill thought out requirements. These will create inequalities between people simply based on where people live and risks the credibility of the overall plan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    The thing that’s upsetting me most is them bloody fckuing stupid 5km rule. Like we’re meant to thank Tony and Leo for this ?

    No point is saying I can visit 3 friends on Monday , they all live more than 5km away , in fact more than 20km away. To think I can’t see anyone in my family and my friends till 20 July is beyond depressing at this stage.

    8 weeks of this , and then a further 2.5 months till 20 th July !! Why??
    My sister and my daughter both in UK are free to go anywhere already.

    It is the restriction that is really bugging people. Its nonsense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    The thing that’s upsetting me most is them bloody fckuing stupid 5km rule. Like we’re meant to thank Tony and Leo for this ?

    No point is saying I can visit 3 friends on Monday , they all live more than 5km away , in fact more than 20km away. To think I can’t see anyone in my family and my friends till 20 July is beyond depressing at this stage.

    8 weeks of this , and then a further 2.5 months till 20 th July !! Why??
    My sister and my daughter both in UK are free to go anywhere already.



    I can usually go a couple of months without seeing my friends and be ok but I would love to see them at the moment, haven't seen 1 of them since early March. Id say people who normally who see their friends a lot are finding this tough to say the least. all my friends live at least an hour away, and cant even see my football mates as we aren't allowed play that until August. fcuk this lockdown. I wish I lived in Sweden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    I wish I lived in Sweden.

    Or any other European country. Nearly all are less restrictive by now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    The continuation of the 5k or 20k as restrictions lift are the most ill thought out requirements. These will create inequalities between people simply based on where people live and risks the credibility of the overall plan

    Yep.
    We are all in this together.

    Nah. The IT lad from Dublin working from home, with most of his family members living within 5KM is not really in the same boat as the now unemployed construction worker from Mayo living in Dublin with most of his family still in Mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    The survey was done when children were still in school .
    What survey was that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Just caught the end of Prime Time, there was someone on from the U.K. giving very interesting stats. The forecast GDP for the U.K. in 2020 if they were to ‘stay the course’ as they say was a whopping 23% + fall. Coupled with that he said the net loss of life from non Covid related issues related to the restrictions in the U.K. from 2020 - 2023 would be 675,000. Does anyone know who he was exactly? All I can find it the stupid #notmytaoiseach on twitter relating to prime time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭showpony1


    Wear the mask, sanitise the hands, and a no chat rule because there’ll be nothing to chat about with the hairdressers anymore because nobody has any holidays to go on lol


    I think my barber is now doing cuts from home - but i highly doubt has masks - probably sanitiser and hopefully cleaning razor each time. so i'm in two minds whether to go for it - finding the head of hair on me depressing at moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Yep.
    We are all in this together.

    Nah. The IT lad from Dublin working from home, with most of his family members living within 5KM is not really in the same boat as the now unemployed construction worker from Mayo living in Dublin with most of his family still in Mayo.

    Of all the suffering in the world right now, I think being from Mayo is possibly worst of all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    So I need to ask, not that Im going to... but seeing as Ikea opens again Monday and their delivery is at least a month, will a trip from Waterford up to Dublin to get a double bed and mattress be allowed? Seeing as they are allowed open as an essential retailer now on Monday I'd assume so.

    Before anyone slates me, I cannot get a double bed and mattress like the Ikea ones locally for that price, hence why I need to go up, am currently sleeping on the floor...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,174 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Doesn't look like it I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    So I need to ask, not that Im going to... but seeing as Ikea opens again Monday and their delivery is at least a month, will a trip from Waterford up to Dublin to get a double bed and mattress be allowed? Seeing as they are allowed open as an essential retailer now on Monday I'd assume so.

    Before anyone slates me, I cannot get a double bed and mattress like the Ikea ones locally for that price, hence why I need to go up, am currently sleeping on the floor...

    Its in direct opposition to the government directive.
    You will not be arrested, however, just instructed to turn around if you do happen upon a checkpoint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    Its in direct opposition to the government directive.
    You will not be arrested, however, just instructed to turn around if you do happen upon a checkpoint

    Fair enough, guess I'll have to wait another while so!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Fair enough, guess I'll have to wait another while so!

    If I was sleeping on the ground and ikea was open . . . . .


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In all seriousness, my hairdresser who is one of my dearest friends has been ready to open for weeks now. She has spent the last few weeks locating PPE for her workers and her clients. She’s fully stocked on hand sanitiser and has taken an online course on sanitation and disinfection practices in order to up skill and instill confidence in her clientele. She started this business from nothing and has built it up and is now one of the most popular and well established salons in our area. She’s absolutely devastated that she can’t open until July, and has stated that opening in July could mean she won’t be opening at all. Her line of thinking is she mostly sees the backs of people’s heads, and if people wear masks and gloves she isn’t putting them at risk nor them her. She is genuinely upset because she fits wigs and hair pieces to people who suffer from alopecia and those undergoing chemo.

    These pieces cannot be removed by the client and can only be removed by a professional so these people risk even further hair loss or severe damage to any regrowth because they have to remove them themselves as they grow out. It’s all good and well thinking Mary down the road needs her blue rinse and yes it would be lovely to get my colour done; but realistically hairdressers provide a service far beyond what most of us will ever access. It’s a form of therapy for some people and it shouldn’t be scoffed at or seen as non essential. I don’t care what people think of that. People should be let take the risk for themselves. Wear the mask, sanitise the hands, and a no chat rule because there’ll be nothing to chat about with the hairdressers anymore because nobody has any holidays to go on lol

    I really appreciate your hair dresser been able to get a facemask when I have to re-use my one from yesterday while reviewing a patient on COVID-19 ward because of the shortage of facemasks available in hospitals.

    But somebody getting a hair cut is more important than me having increased risk of getting covid-19 treating patients.

    Thanks pro economic brigade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭showpony1


    I really appreciate your hair dresser been able to get a facemask when I have to re-use my one from yesterday while reviewing a patient on COVID-19 ward because of the shortage of facemasks available in hospitals.

    But somebody getting a hair cut is more important than me having increased risk of getting covid-19.


    maybe you could go for the hair-cut then use the mask for work after?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I really appreciate your hair dresser been able to get a facemask when I have to re-use my one from yesterday while reviewing a patient on COVID-19 ward because of the shortage of facemasks available in hospitals.

    But somebody getting a hair cut is more important than me having increased risk of getting covid-19 treating patients.

    Thanks pro economic brigade.

    Oh ffs get over yourself. She located them over six weeks ago. It’s not her fault you’re low on stock. Take it up with your supplier, not someone trying to make ends meet and spending money to ensure her business stays afloat through all of this. How bitter are you.


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