Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

peterofthebr · 14-05-2020 04:45PM

Spanish ~Gov study shows that only 5% of the overall Spanish population has developed coronavirus antibodies...

owlbethere · 14-05-2020 04:54PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Someone should get her a pair of flip flops.

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/8/21251899/coronavirus-long-term-effects-symptoms

Survivors of SARS had neurological symptoms down the line so I would watch that space very closely.

I linked this piece last night. It's a long piece but somewhere in there it says, people who have an asymptomatic form or mild form, they still show significant scarring to the lungs.

We shouldn't be in any rush to open up until we know more. Of course there's no evidence of children spreading it because they haven't been given a chance to pick it up and spread it around to their peers in school.

bekker · 14-05-2020 04:55PM

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1260940898273243143?s=19

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1260940998882004992?s=19

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1260941064355143683?s=19

HSE not happy with NPHET

Even more dysfunctional than imagined.

The messaging is clearly taking precedence over the on-the-ground reality, many have suspected that previously, here it is on the record.

MOR316 · 14-05-2020 04:57PM

Social distancing is not going to be in place until there is a vaccine.

While it is the official line, whilst it is a noble idea and hell, whilst most on here and all around the country will give it the old, "I am saving lives by social distancing" to justify something in their own heads, let's just see how long people can go without the shift and sex.

Cynical of me? Perhaps but, ask yourselves the same question.

It's already happening. Only a matter of time before it snowballs

LRNM · 14-05-2020 05:07PM

Here's the funny thing about testing. Initially the ambulance service was tasked with setting up and running the covid swabbing. Public health wanted in so they supplied some staff to assist us but for the large part, the operation was setup and run by NAS with NAS vehicles, supplies, staff, etc.

We got **** hot at it. We'd fly through testing at static testing points. 3-6 staff could swab entire nursing homes before lunch time. 120+ people.

Mobile testing was a lot slower and our staff were being sent huge distances to make home visits.

I know of many cases were a swabbing car was sent from east coast to west coast just to swab one person and vice versa. The mobile swabbing wasn't as effective.

Public health got a bit uneasy about all of this and were wanting to take over from us after a few weeks. So that was grand, we returned to normal duties as such aside from showing them how we did it.

After 1 week public health weren't able to cope with the demand. They couldn't process half as much as we were doing and we were getting a load of complaints.

So it was handed back to NAS, and away we swabbed at full speed.

After a couple weeks public health felt like it was their responsibility again and wanted to take over......so again...we left them off.

Surprise surprise they turned it into a big operation, made a song and dance about how hard it was and we received complaints.

So off we went again taking over the swabbing.

We completed all the nursing homes, and staff and community hospitals.

We finished up despite raising questions about mental health and intellectual disability units having not being done yet.

Public health will look after those we were told 2 weeks ago.

No money to guess what we're back at doing this week.

Jim_Hodge · 14-05-2020 05:13PM

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Fair enough measures were necessary suppress infections and protect health system, but keeping measures in place while numbers are so low?

With roadmap being so drawn out could we not see these numbers reported in the headlines instead of digging through websites to find them?

Those numbers are reported on the RTE news every evening.

We have to keep the numbers low and a gradual easing of restrictions is designed to do exactly that.

Away With The Fairies · 14-05-2020 05:13PM

So the WHO has said that we may never be able to get rid of this.

It's going be such a sad miserable life carrying on like this. A picture from France with kids spaced out in a chalked outline of a box and that's their individual play area. Wtf?

stephenjmcd · 14-05-2020 05:18PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So the WHO has said that we may never be able to get rid of this.

It's going be such a sad miserable life carrying on like this. A picture from France with kids spaced out in a chalked outline of a box and that's their individual play area. Wtf?

If we dont get rid of it things will eventually just slip back to normal and it'll just be another virus. Thats been as good as said by the WHO.

You honestly think people are going to live like this forever with little to no social interaction, no weddings, funerals, sporting events, concerts etc ??

Absolutely no chance.

D.Q · 14-05-2020 05:20PM

LRNM wrote: »

Here's the funny thing about testing. Initially the ambulance service was tasked with setting up and running the covid swabbing. Public health wanted in so they supplied some staff to assist us but for the large part, the operation was setup and run by NAS with NAS vehicles, supplies, staff, etc.

We got **** hot at it. We'd fly through testing at static testing points. 3-6 staff could swab entire nursing homes before lunch time. 120+ people.

Mobile testing was a lot slower and our staff were being sent huge distances to make home visits.

I know of many cases were a swabbing car was sent from east coast to west coast just to swab one person and vice versa. The mobile swabbing wasn't as effective.

Public health got a bit uneasy about all of this and were wanting to take over from us after a few weeks. So that was grand, we returned to normal duties as such aside from showing them how we did it.

After 1 week public health weren't able to cope with the demand. They couldn't process half as much as we were doing and we were getting a load of complaints.

So it was handed back to NAS, and away we swabbed at full speed.

After a couple weeks public health felt like it was their responsibility again and wanted to take over......so again...we left them off.

Surprise surprise they turned it into a big operation, made a song and dance about how hard it was and we received complaints.

So off we went again taking over the swabbing.

We completed all the nursing homes, and staff and community hospitals.

We finished up despite raising questions about mental health and intellectual disability units having not being done yet.

Public health will look after those we were told 2 weeks ago.

No money to guess what we're back at doing this week.

Haha nothing makes me more depressed and angry than how badly our health service is run. There's the above, all the talk of legacy systems thst can't communicate, just ineptitude, awful communication, and inefficient operation, top to bottom.

MOR316 · 14-05-2020 05:20PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So the WHO has said that we may never be able to get rid of this.

It's going be such a sad miserable life carrying on like this. A picture from France with kids spaced out in a chalked outline of a box and that's their individual play area. Wtf?

Can't and won't happen.

Lolle06 · 14-05-2020 05:21PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

To be fair they fact checked with a lot of people in the medical profession , Who aren't exactly going to paint themselves in a bad light ,

Its clear to see that it could be easily taken advantage off

But in times of Covid-19 you have to treat every patient with typical symptoms as Covid-19 positive until tested negative and even then they would have to test the patient every day to exclude Covid-19.
That treatment would mean higher costs naturally. Covid-19 is a highly infectious disease after all.

Unless hospitals are fraudulently charging for treatments they don’t carry out, then I don’t see a problem?
Even private patients get „more treatment“ than necessary on a regular basis.

MOR316 · 14-05-2020 05:22PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

If we dont get rid of it things will eventually just slip back to normal and it'll just be another virus. Thats been as good as said by the WHO.

You honestly think people are going to live like this forever with little to no social interaction, no weddings, funerals, sporting events, concerts etc ??

Absolutely no chance.

Exactly!

As I've said above, people are already meeting up for sex and what not.
It's so bad, even I got offered a romp in the sack by someone (Obviously no one here knows who I am or what I look like but, I don't get many offers, put it that way)

Lolle06 · 14-05-2020 05:23PM

Colibri wrote: »

Price gouging b*stards.

Not necessarily. They have to source these masks too and prices have risen all over the world.

Seven Septs · 14-05-2020 05:23PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Exactly!

As I've said above, people are already meeting up for sex and what not.
It's so bad, even I got offered a romp in the sack by someone (Obviously no one here knows who I am or what I look like but, I don't get many offers, put it that way)

Laughing out loud! I'm sure you're not as bad looking as you think.

Hector Savage · 14-05-2020 05:24PM

Also, when the WHO say that it doesn't mean the way the hysterical media paint it..

It won't be COMPLETELY gone, but when there is a vaccine it will calm the mood, people, economy etc.
When people get vaccinated - especially risk groups, it won't be a big deal anymore.

Look at measles, there is a vaccine for it, it's not completely gone and it can be a very serious disease.

MOR316 · 14-05-2020 05:25PM

Seven Septs wrote: »

Laughing out loud! I'm sure you're not as bad looking as you think.

I'm not.

I just live in a town where the colours of the rainbow are black. It's not that the colours aren't there, it's just that they lack imagination and a thought process

Arseholes basically

ACitizenErased · 14-05-2020 05:31PM

As of 4pm there are only 2 COVID-19 patients in the CUH, one receiving ventilation.

Renjit · 14-05-2020 05:33PM

mandrake04 wrote: »

The RNA is wrapped in protein and incased in fat ..they just are nano-greaseballs, washing with soap destroys the virus by bursting them as the soap disperses fats/oils. Hence wash your hands with soap or alcohol.

This is true only for enveloped viruses.

Colibri · 14-05-2020 05:33PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

As of 4pm there are only 2 COVID-19 patients in the CUH, one receiving ventilation.

Best wishes to them both! That's a really good sign there are only two.

owlbethere · 14-05-2020 05:34PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Also, when the WHO say that it doesn't mean the way the hysterical media paint it..

It won't be COMPLETELY gone, but when there is a vaccine it will calm the mood, people, economy etc.
When people get vaccinated - especially risk groups, it won't be a big deal anymore.

Look at measles, there is a vaccine for it, it's not completely gone and it can be a very serious disease.

I'm very hopeful on the vaccine from London. That one looks very promising. I read on a different forum so I don't know if it's true, it was developed for MERS and the MERS vaccine was already in trials. All they had to do was tweak the MERS vaccine to this Covid19.
If true, it looks to be the most promising. Fingers crossed.

political analyst · 14-05-2020 05:45PM

The European Central Bank will not let our government borrow money indefinitely. So why does the government think that its policy of borrowing while the economy is locked down is sustainable in the immediate future?

Seven Septs · 14-05-2020 05:48PM

political analyst wrote: »

The European Central Bank will not let our government borrow money indefinitely. So why does the government think that its policy of borrowing while the economy is locked down is sustainable in the immediate future?

Because the immediate future and indefinitely are two differing time periods.

bodhrandude · 14-05-2020 05:50PM

What time is the briefing today at 6 or 7.

Harry Palmr · 14-05-2020 05:52PM

6 PM

ACitizenErased · 14-05-2020 05:52PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

What time is the briefing today at 6 or 7.

6

Harry Palmr · 14-05-2020 05:52PM

political analyst wrote: »

The European Central Bank will not let our government borrow money indefinitely. So why does the government think that its policy of borrowing while the economy is locked down is sustainable in the immediate future?

How did you get your user name?

Just Saying · 14-05-2020 05:53PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

6

Just mentioned on Virgin Media that it could be 6.30 or 7 as the NPHET meeting is not long finished.

political analyst · 14-05-2020 05:54PM

Seven Septs wrote: »

Because the immediate future and indefinitely are two differing time periods.

But it seems to be going on forever. Why don't you answer my question instead of tripping me up on a technicality?

political analyst · 14-05-2020 05:55PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

How did you get your user name?

A user name is just that! Why take it literally?

marno21 · 14-05-2020 05:56PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So the WHO has said that we may never be able to get rid of this.

It's going be such a sad miserable life carrying on like this. A picture from France with kids spaced out in a chalked outline of a box and that's their individual play area. Wtf?

Another thing. That's the World Health Organisation you are quoting.

I have no doubt that this will be dealt with in North America, Europe and the rest of the advanced economies before it will be in sub Saharan Africa.

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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