Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Is it true there was 50 new cases in one day in Roscommon. Caused by a meat factory?

Well there was a definite jump - wouldn't be much to assume it was the meat factory

growleaves wrote: »

Well perhaps. It ought to be done far more thoughtfully, if at all.

The objections from Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi from University of Mainz was that German regions were not comparable to Lombardy, and he gave cultural, environmental, demographic reasons why this was so.

A sophisticated analysis of each city, region, country etc on a case by case basis done calmly would be helpful in determining whether deeply painful and harmful lockdowns are a necessary evil or avoidable.

And he is not alone. Quite a few of people in the field think the same.

Stanford professor John Ioannidis explains in an interview with CNN that Covid19 is a „widespread and mild disease“ comparable to influenza (flu) for the general population, while patients in nursing homes and hospitals should receive extra protection.

Stanford professor Scott Atlas explains in an interview with CNN that „the idea of having to stop Covid19 has created a catastrophic health care situation“. Professor Atlas says that the disease is „generally mild“ and that irrational fears had been created. He adds that there is „absolutely no reason“ for extensive testing in the general population, which is only necessary in hospitals and nursing homes. Professor Atlas wrote an article at the end of April entitled „The data are in – Stop the panic and end total isolation“ that received over 15,000 comments.

Epidemiologist Dr Knut Wittkowski explains in a new interview that the danger of Covid19 is comparable to an influenza and that the peak was already passed in most countries before the lockdown. The lockdown of entire societies was a „catastrophic decision“ without benefits but causing enormous damage. The most important measure is the protection of nursing homes. According to Dr. Wittkowski, Bill Gates‘ statements on Covid19 are „absurd“ and „have nothing to do with reality“. Dr. Wittkowski considers a vaccination against Covid19 „not necessary“ and the influential Covid19 model of British epidemiologist Neil Ferguson a „complete failure“.

German virologist Hendrik Streeck explains the final results of his pioneering antibody study. Professor Streeck found a Covid19 lethality of 0.36%, but explains that this is an upper limit and the lethality is probably in the range of 0.24 to 0.26% or even below. The average age of test-positive deceased was approximately 81 years.

Biology professor and Nobel Prize winner Michael Levitt, who has been analyzing the spread of Covid19 since February, describes the general lockdown as a „huge mistake“ and calls for more targeted measures, especially to protect risk groups.

mandrake04 wrote: »

I would definitely agree with that.

Anal swab would be far more reliable than saliva, as virus is showing in stool up to 4 days before onset of symptoms.

At first thought I thought you were joking, now I'm not so sure

fritzelly wrote: »

At first thought I thought you were joking, now I'm not so sure

No joke, the virus causes a respiratory disease and respiratory system is actually external to the body the airway, throat, lungs are external in that they are in contact with air. The virus lives externally on cells of membranes rather than in the bloodstream. In the lungs there is a protein called ACE2 which the virus uses as a viral receptor to enter cells.

ACE2 is also in the lower intestine, if have recently been infected and have some virus particles in the throat eating food will pull those virus through your digestive system those that survive will thrive nicely with ACE2 that’s why diarrhoea is a common symptom.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Mmm, any dangers to eating soap?

Why would you bother? Trump is sorting us out with internal UV light and bleach. Maybe science should check it out! :mad:

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I was thinking this today, can you get infected by eating food that has the virus, like if somebody coughs close to food. Sounds like you can.

You can get infected by the virus through mouth, nose and eyes. You get virus in your mouth it will get into throat and then lungs.

The virus attacks the cells of your respiratory system killing them, this is why you get a cough and a irritated throat. The danger in the lungs is the cells that transfer oxygen to the bloodstream get damaged filling your capillaries with fluid. You starve of oxygen and basically drown in fluids caused by damaged useless cells.

YFlyer wrote: »

Stomach acid should kill the virus.

Only after it passes through the mouth and throat, which is too late were the food to have viable virus on it.

Eod100 wrote: »

Thank feck for soap. Shows how important having access to sanitation is throughout the world. Times like this you'd be glad water charges weren't brought in, but that's another argument!

It thought the charges were to ensure we had better water supply, Dublin is running low again right now...

Even when "cut off" for not paying charges, you would have had enough water to drink and wash hands...