Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

Jim_Hodge · 10-05-2020 09:53AM

zinfandel wrote: »

Singapore have jumped ahead of us in cases and they had it pretty much under control early on, just shows what can happen when you loosen up.

Yet only 20 deaths and 23 in ICUs.

Jackman25 · 10-05-2020 09:57AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Brazil reports 730 new deaths and over 10,000 new cases.

what is your criteria for posting the new numbers from certain countries every day. How do you select which countries numbers to post.
There seems to be a common theme, but I just can't put my finger on it.

Itsalladdingup · 10-05-2020 09:58AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Anyone else reading these developments re Wuhan military world games in October - no mainstream news outlet here has reported this yet...(I don’t really count The Sun):

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5400791/fears-coronavirus-europe-october-french-athletes-military-games-wuhan/

Spanish newspaper bit more reputable:

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/05/08/spanish-athletes-displayed-coronavirus-symptoms-following-the-world-military-games-in-wuhan-in-october-2019/

If in fact the military of France and Spain brought this back in October..it throws up a lot of questions - has Covid been with us since before Christmas?

I’m fairly sure I and a few around me had it back in January, certainly something with all those symptoms that took almost 4 months to clear properly. Whatever it was it was an awful dose, knocked the stuffing out of me. Not 100% now even. I’ve been really worried that if it wasn’t covid that I had and I got the real thing that my lungs wouldn’t cope with it. I’ve spoken to quite a few people who’ve had the same experience as me. The only thing that makes me question whether it was it is, if it was here why didn’t we have more deaths? And why did we not have it get into hospitals and nursing homes?

Rob A. Bank · 10-05-2020 10:00AM

1st reported case 8th December in Wohan, China
0.5 million cases March 26th… which was 108 days later.
1 million cases April 2nd… which was 6 days later
1.5 million cases April 8th… 6 days later
2 million cases April 14th… 6 days later
2.5 million cases April 21st… 7 days later
3 million cases April 27th… 6 days later
3.5 million cases May 3rd… 6 days later
4 million cases May 9th…. 6 days later

The reported cases of Covid-19 continue to rise worldwide at a rate of half a million every ~6 days, with no signs of a plateau in the graph yet.

wadacrack · 10-05-2020 10:05AM

https://twitter.com/Vilavaite/status/1259391044803874818

yourdeadwright · 10-05-2020 10:06AM

I seen one of the fighter who was to fight in last night UFC card tested positive

Crazy thing is he tested positive shortly after the weigh in's (each fighter was tested multiply times for the fights to go ahead )and was pulled form the fight but felt fine,

That may not mean much to some people but these guys completely dehydrate themselves to the point of sometimes having to be help to walk just to make weight on the scale and as soon as they step off the scale they have a drink ready and start to rehydrate for the fight the next day ,
So his body would have been at its very lowest to fight something like this,

Crazy how some people just don't seem effected by it,

coastwatch · 10-05-2020 10:11AM

kevcos wrote: »

Does anyone have any stats about how close to full capacity hospitals became?

The temporary hospitals in the UK have barely had any admissions. NHS Nightingale, 4,000 beds treated just 54 patients and is closing next week.

Not sure of the accuracy but I heard Elon Musk state on a podcast that US hospital are at ~30% capacity with some hospitals laying off staff!

Posters on this thread sneered at the slightest suggestion that anything other than collapse of the NHS, in particular, would have occurred by now.

Granted the past few weeks have flagged unpreparedness in the face of a black swan event, but is it now acceptable to contemplate that perhaps there was an over reaction to this crisis?
Or will such thoughts have me sent to the Hague?

I dont think it was an over reaction at all.
Before Covid, there were a total of around 250 ICU beds in the country.
More beds were then added in preparation in Feb and March.
It looks like at the peak (14th April), there were about 170 Covid cases in ICU, (110 of those on ventilators), so nearly 70% of normal ICU capacity was Covid at peak. I think it was reported at that time that some Dublin hospitals had no more ICU capacity.

CruelSummer · 10-05-2020 10:17AM

celt262 wrote: »

It would be great if it was but if that was the case the nursing homes would have been cleared out months ago ?

Definitely think health authorities need to retrospectively look at all cases with similar symptoms since last Autumn - which I was hoping they might be doing anyway. There are certainly more questions than answers.

Akrasia · 10-05-2020 10:21AM

owlbethere wrote: »

You are right. There's no information available on transmission from pets to humans.

The way I see it though is that, they can pick it up from people. Surely a reversal could happen from animal/pet into human/owner. If someone was to get close enough to an infected animal.

Wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution?

And what? Cull all cats? (Make an exception for the 2% who never go outside)

Beasty · 10-05-2020 10:22AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Dunno mike. Are you **** to the death numbers?

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

dEATh is coming for you mike.

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Your number might be next mike. Your toilet paper stash might come in handy.

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

What was that mike? A figment of your death obsessed imagination?

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Hey guys let’s wear masks, blue gloves, and safety glasses. Just in case. State imposed fear porn is the virus.

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Get a grip fear porn infected people.

Threadbanned

Colibri · 10-05-2020 10:31AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Anyone else reading these developments re Wuhan military world games in October - no mainstream news outlet here has reported this yet...(I don’t really count The Sun):

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5400791/fears-coronavirus-europe-october-french-athletes-military-games-wuhan/

Spanish newspaper bit more reputable:

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/05/08/spanish-athletes-displayed-coronavirus-symptoms-following-the-world-military-games-in-wuhan-in-october-2019/

If in fact the military of France and Spain brought this back in October..it throws up a lot of questions - has Covid been with us since before Christmas?

I'm taking those with a pinch of salt. If you look it up, the results you get are all conspiracy theories linking it to event 201, Bill Gates etc.

Not saying that it didn't happen but there aren't many reputable sources looking at this.

froog · 10-05-2020 10:31AM

South korea cases spiked back up to 34 in a day. The spike is linked to the opening of nightclubs. They were at 0-10 daily cases for a while now.

MrDavid1976 · 10-05-2020 10:33AM

froog wrote: »

South korea cases spiked back up to 34 in a day. The spike is linked to the opening of nightclubs. They were at 0-1 daily cases for a while now.

Indeed - we should ban nightclubs. Especially those crappy hotel ones.

irishgeo · 10-05-2020 10:38AM

Itsalladdingup wrote: »

I’m fairly sure I and a few around me had it back in January, certainly something with all those symptoms that took almost 4 months to clear properly. Whatever it was it was an awful dose, knocked the stuffing out of me. Not 100% now even. I’ve been really worried that if it wasn’t covid that I had and I got the real thing that my lungs wouldn’t cope with it. I’ve spoken to quite a few people who’ve had the same experience as me. The only thing that makes me question whether it was it is, if it was here why didn’t we have more deaths? And why did we not have it get into hospitals and nursing homes?

Because thers is 2 types. The first one in China is a milder form than the one in Europe.

So if your post is correct. We had the milder form and then it mutated later.

This might explain why deaths were not reported. But who knows. You can't test for something without knowing it exists in the first place.

MrDavid1976 · 10-05-2020 10:42AM

irishgeo wrote: »

Because thers is 2 types. The first one in China is a milder form than the one in Europe.

So if your post is correct. We had the milder form and then it mutated later.

This might explain why deaths were not reported. But who knows. You can't test for something without knowing it exists in the first place.

So did we already have the second wave?

coastwatch · 10-05-2020 10:49AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

1st reported case 8th December in Wohan, China
0.5 million cases March 26th… which was 108 days later.
1 million cases April 2nd… which was 6 days later
1.5 million cases April 8th… 6 days later
2 million cases April 14th… 6 days later
2.5 million cases April 21st… 7 days later
3 million cases April 27th… 6 days later
3.5 million cases May 3rd… 6 days later
4 million cases May 9th…. 6 days later

The reported cases of Covid-19 continue to rise worldwide at a rate of half a million every ~6 days, with no signs of a plateau in the graph yet.

Using the Log scale, you can see the growth rate is now easing off slowly.

the kelt · 10-05-2020 10:53AM

froog wrote: »

South korea cases spiked back up to 34 in a day. The spike is linked to the opening of nightclubs. They were at 0-10 daily cases for a while now.

Yep which is going to happen everywhere. No matter what happens there will be a spike in every country that eases restrictions.

The thing is Korea have in place a rapid turnaround when it comes to testing of people combined with a sophisticated track and trace system which means they will quickly track trace and isolate.

Unfortunately we are in the dark ages when it comes both of those aspects and they are every bit as important as lock down, restrictions etc etc but a lot of people think lock down etc is the only game in town because all the other aspects don’t get discussed.

Maybe because to discuss this would be to admit the failings at those levels?

CruelSummer · 10-05-2020 11:07AM

Colibri wrote: »

I'm taking those with a pinch of salt. If you look it up, the results you get are all conspiracy theories linking it to event 201, Bill Gates etc.

Not saying that it didn't happen but there aren't many reputable sources looking at this.

I didn’t see any of those links at all in the articles or any reference to Bill Gates whatsoever.
I did read two French athletes fell ill and were contacted by the French military to reassure them they didn’t have the virus as they left on Oct 28th and first confirmed case was Nov 1st in Wuhan...make of that what you will. One of the athletes gave an interview to the press.
Both and French and Spanish military will not confirm their athletes were sick after the Games.

Loozer · 10-05-2020 11:09AM

Are we going to have passengers using Ireland as a stop enroute to UK

Them having 14 quarantine except from ireland

BeginAgain · 10-05-2020 11:11AM

froog wrote: »

South korea cases spiked back up to 34 in a day. The spike is linked to the opening of nightclubs. They were at 0-10 daily cases for a while now.

The main case was traced back to a guy who frequented a gay club in an area popular with foreigners. It's a worst case scenario as many patrons would be not out and face social stigma if outed so getting them to go to medical services for help is going to be a problem.

Colibri · 10-05-2020 11:16AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

I didn’t see any of those links at all in the articles or any reference to Bill Gates whatsoever.
I did read two French athletes fell ill and were contacted by the French military to reassure them they didn’t have the virus as they left on Oct 28th and first confirmed case was Nov 1st in Wuhan...make of that what you will. One of the athletes gave an interview to the press.
Both and French and Spanish military will not confirm their athletes were sick after the Games.

I have been searching the wrong terms because I glossed over the original post, my apologies.

Looking at now it's really interesting. Kind of alarming actually

gozunda · 10-05-2020 11:16AM

pjohnson wrote: »

If we match his we know we need to adjust further. Hopefully we're the complete opposite.

I'd suggest the opposite of that is required. We share a land border and a common travel area with the UK.

The UK have already stated they wont be rolling back their restictions in a hurry. Tbh I dont expect they will be significantly out of line with the the roll back of restrictions here.

That they align with us is important - if only to prevent the movement of people to areas with less restrictions.

10-05-2020 11:20AM

The reporting of Covid 19 has been an absolute disgrace. You have to really go out of your way to find the stats on the deaths. Tony had to be pushed to give a breakdown of the deaths.

To this day, from talking to my family and friends, most people still don’t seem to be aware that the risk is so low.

I keep hearing people in their 30s claiming to be at high risk because they have a touch of asthma. Or people worrying because their blood pressure is slightly high etc.

Covid 19 mainly kills people over 80. This is a fact. Most of those people also have other serious medical issues. And I don’t mean a touch a asthma. Some will have advanced cancer, heart disease, diabetes and COPD as well as just naturally being at the end of their life.

For whatever reason, this is getting swept under the carpet. People are been led to believe that they are at high risk when it’s simply not true.

We’ve allowed a very mild disease to destroy our country. At some point, the handling of this will need to be investigated to ensure we don’t make the same mistakes again in the future.

wakka12 · 10-05-2020 11:21AM

kevcos wrote: »

Does anyone have any stats about how close to full capacity hospitals became?

The temporary hospitals in the UK have barely had any admissions. NHS Nightingale, 4,000 beds treated just 54 patients and is closing next week.

Not sure of the accuracy but I heard Elon Musk state on a podcast that US hospital are at ~30% capacity with some hospitals laying off staff!

Posters on this thread sneered at the slightest suggestion that anything other than collapse of the NHS, in particular, would have occurred by now.

Granted the past few weeks have flagged unpreparedness in the face of a black swan event, but is it now acceptable to contemplate that perhaps there was an over reaction to this crisis?
Or will such thoughts have me sent to the Hague?

No, the reactions were entirely justified, and the response totlly rational. Overreacting and having made precautions for an asbolute worst case scenario that didnt come tp pass are not the same thing.You make it sound like it was all a big fuss made for no reason. Up to 40,000 Britiish people have died over the last 8 weeks from COVID,and thousands more people will die in Britain in the coming weeks. And nobody knows what will happen with the virus in the next 1-2 years before a vaccine is found

ChelseaRentBoy · 10-05-2020 11:22AM

owlbethere wrote: »

Trump is only thinking of himself.

As every single president has since George Washington

silverharp · 10-05-2020 11:22AM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/09/new-york-study-shows-workers-no-likely-hospitalised-covid-stayed/

New York study shows workers 'no more likely to be hospitalised by Covid than those who stayed home'
Doctors say important to protect the elderly, sick and vulnerable, but more people could be allowed to return to normal

Colibri · 10-05-2020 11:24AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The reporting of Covid 19 has been an absolute disgrace. You have to really go out of your way to find the stats on the deaths. Tony had to be pushed to give a breakdown of the deaths.

To this day, from talking to my family and friends, most people still don’t seem to be aware that the risk is so low.

I keep hearing people in their 30s claiming to be at high risk because they have a touch of asthma. Or people worrying because their blood pressure is slightly high etc.

Covid 19 mainly kills people over 80. This is a fact. Most of those people also have other serious medical issues. And I don’t mean a touch a asthma. Some will have advanced cancer, heart disease, diabetes and COPD as well as just naturally being at the end of their life.

For whatever reason, this is getting swept under the carpet. People are been led to believe that they are at high risk when it’s simply not true.

We’ve allowed a very mild disease to destroy our country. At some point, the handling of this will need to be investigated to ensure we don’t make the same mistakes again in the future.

I have four people close to me who are genuinely high risk and one is young, but I do agree that we tend to get swept up in the reporting of it. Hysteria and panic shouldn't be as widespread as it is.

ChelseaRentBoy · 10-05-2020 11:26AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

There seems to be a lot more noise in the last week coming from various European countries that their military arrived back from the World Wuhan Military Games with symptoms of Covid last October. If we look at the R0 for this virus, it’s highly likely it was here too.
There are articles related to Spanish and French military claiming to have been infected appearing. Mainstream news outlets here not yet:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8291755/Did-European-athletes-catch-coronavirus-competing-World-Military-Games-Wuhan-OCTOBER.html

Wow. Now that is interesting.

wakka12 · 10-05-2020 11:26AM

coastwatch wrote: »

Using the Log scale, you can see the growth rate is now easing off slowly.

Global cases and deaths are certainly growing a lot more slowly thana few weeks ago. But it is largely because the virus has been halted in Europe. Many countries outside of Europe are now in the early stages of large epidemics

MrDavid1976 · 10-05-2020 11:26AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The reporting of Covid 19 has been an absolute disgrace. You have to really go out of your way to find the stats on the deaths. Tony had to be pushed to give a breakdown of the deaths.

To this day, from talking to my family and friends, most people still don’t seem to be aware that the risk is so low.

I keep hearing people in their 30s claiming to be at high risk because they have a touch of asthma. Or people worrying because their blood pressure is slightly high etc.

Covid 19 mainly kills people over 80. This is a fact. Most of those people also have other serious medical issues. And I don’t mean a touch a asthma. Some will have advanced cancer, heart disease, diabetes and COPD as well as just naturally being at the end of their life.

For whatever reason, this is getting swept under the carpet. People are been led to believe that they are at high risk when it’s simply not true.

We’ve allowed a very mild disease to destroy our country. At some point, the handling of this will need to be investigated to ensure we don’t make the same mistakes again in the future.

After the behaviour yesterday of people going to the beach and queuing up for ice cream, the easing of restrictions cannot happen on the 18th as planned, there will be 3 week delay for phase 1 and 6 weeks between the stages. There will be advice to Government next week on whether to cancel Christmas or not.

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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