Relaxation of restrictions Part II

gozunda wrote: »

And yet we did - to effective full employment.

Who is saying things will swing back immediately? And yes going by the previous economic boom which witnessed large scale immigration of workers - things will indeed improve.

As is the case with ths majority of other countries where the emphasis atm is dealing with the pandemic and keeping the number of cases under control so health services are not overwhelmed. No difficult to understand tbf.

After massive pain inflicted on the Irish people and after a long timeframe. We won't be skipping along to 2016 very fast. And the longer this lockdown farce persists- the longer it will be this time.

No in most sane nations the emphasis has moved on to re-opening and recovering. We are stuck in dithering paralysis while the economy sheds jobs and government haemorrhages cash.

road_high wrote: »

After massive pain inflicted on the Irish people and after a long timeframe. We won't be skipping along to 2016 very fast. And the longer this lockdown farce persists- the longer it will be this time.

No in most sane nations the emphasis has moved on to re-opening and recovering. We are stuck in dithering paralysis while the economy sheds jobs and government haemorrhages cash.

Hyperbole much?

Most of the problems in the economy are not structural.

Most jobs are not 'lost'.

You need to a take chill pill.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

All the while other world leaders use Ireland as an example to its frustrated citizens as a ridiculously slow method of easing restrictions.

Enjoy the outdoors, or we will lock ya in for months like those poor children in Ireland!!

The leader in New Zealand said something...oh noes! About as relevant as Tonga outlining it's opinion.

What will we do?

Is there any truth that the phases might be expedited depending on how the initial phases pan out i.e. number of cases that arise?

August 10th is a long time away having not seen my family since February.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The leader in New Zealand said something...oh noes! About as relevant as Tonga outlining it's opinion.

What will we do?

Nah judging by the Irish cohort in New Zealand and similarities with Ireland its relevant.

Tonga??

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Can you provide a link that shows 50% of the state's annual income is servicing debt?

I'd hate to think this was yet more fake news (and from a brexiter no less), it would make me flustered and sad

Think it was 5.2 billion last year to service 206 billion.

Looks like tax revenue shrinking to 49 billion so 10% without counting the new borrowing.

Not an economist but with massive increased unemployment payments, money is going to be tight. Public wages slashed and emergency budgets coming up. Something for everybody.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Younger generations will do fine.... we can't buy our own houses at the moment as it is, how are we expected to do fine with another recession ?? I'd love to move out of home and buy my own apartment or house but we're completely priced out of the market.

I've a full time job with quite a good salary and yet it would be nowhere near enough to satisfy the banks deposit requirements. That's going to become even more difficult when banks tighten lending now

I am fooking tired of this shyte about how the younger generations have it so such more difficult.

Younger generations, anyone that was born after mid 1980s have for the most part has had the option of staying in this state.
A fooking option not afforded to most people of previous generations.
Yes there was downturn after construction bubble burst, but it seemed to afford a fair share a chance to go on almighty p**sup in Australia.

Younger generations have enjoyed unknown advantages never before experienced by most people born in this state.
Talk to older generations and find out how they had to travel to find a job and a life, not a fooking stag weekend or a post exam pi**up.

Most people of older generations, the ones that some now want to see sacrificed to this disease, did not have access to second level education never mind fooking third level.
Now almost everyone gets a shot at some third level or other.

And another thing that a fair few of our older generations had to suffer was war because when they did emigrate some of them ended up in foreign armies fighting a real war.
Some made the ultimate sacrifice for not alone their adopted country, but also the world as a whole.

But some of the fookers today see the fact they can't go out and down the pub as the ultimate sacrifice.

gozunda wrote: »

Chxrist but you comments are nothing but complete and utter pessimism. I know of a good website selling sackcloth and ashes if it helps?

We've weathered recessions before and we can do it again to get the country back on its feet without all the teeth bashing and wailing you know ...

Atm we are in the middle of a global pandemic. Other countries may be somewhat ahead of us with regard to when they started their restrictions and are just starting to ease them back. We are on the road to do the same ...

Complete and utter realism here. But all we need is to be more positive...as over 1 million live on welfare. We have cut limbs off here unnecessarily and now plan on prolonging the bleeding to make sure they don't grow back anytime soon.

Why are we all not wearing masks.

https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/25410/20200421/austria-90-drop-coronavirus-cases-requiring-people-wear-face-masks.htm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

July 20th for travel outside your region

Sorry, got my dates mixed up. Is that set in stone or is it possible they will bring it forward?

VonLuck wrote: »

Sorry, got my dates mixed up. Is that set in stone or is it possible they will bring it forward?

It's not set in stone as such but I find it hard to see CMO allowing the government to move too much around

Could be brought forward but more than likely to be delayed due to one of the previous stages being delayed

Travel restrictions are Painfully slow in out plan

road_high wrote: »

Complete and utter realism here. But all we need is to be more positive...as over 1 million live on welfare. We have cut limbs off here unnecessarily and now plan on prolonging the bleeding to make sure they don't grow back anytime soon.

:rolleyes: Similes of amputated limbs and lots of blood now! Im afraid you've just done that whole pessimism thing again. I think I'll leave you at it ...

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Brilliant glad you're so insulated you haven't to worry about a recession. Your €350 a week must stretch far so.

A fairly patheic reply tbf

My friend - In my life I've weathered more than one. And no I've never drawn a cent from welfare. That said I'd never begrudge those that need it. Unlike some who evidently do ...