Relaxation of restrictions Part II

Kermit.de.frog · 01-05-2020 04:02PM

uli84 wrote: »

That’s unfortunately not true

In Italy and Spain you needed written permission to leave your house. In the former a designated family member was allowed out once every two days for supplies.

Also only very limited steps have been taken so far by any country so it's a bit of a misnomer to say economies are being reopened as if a finger is being snapped.

It will be some months (assuming restrictions don't have to be reimposed) before economies are fully open.

That's the reality of the situation.

Roanmore · 01-05-2020 04:03PM

gozunda wrote: »

So it's better to listen / take the opinion of to some random 'expert' on boards then? Right you are ...

Btw dont like to point this out and I dont disbelieve anything you said for a minute but you yourself just pulled a 'sick relative' card.

Yeah medical experts sometimes get things wrong and yes they can be questioned. That said it's not 'blind allegience' to take evidence based information over someones rantings to be fair.

I think the people who came back at me need to read again what I said.

It’s not the experts I was having a go at it was the people who use the “I’ll follow the experts” line to close down an argument.

I actually said listen to them and take on board what the say. .

easypazz · 01-05-2020 04:04PM

gozunda wrote: »

The difference is that most countries 'opening up" now especially in Europe had much stricter restrictions than anything here.

Rubbish, we were allowed go 2kM for exercise, in Italy 200m, that hardly spread the virus much.

Our lockdown is as strict as most places.

gozunda wrote: »

That and the fact that the outbreak here was later than in most other countries.

Source?

gozunda wrote: »

But the screamers appently want it NOW.

Nobody wants or expects all restrictions to end now.

You really need to learn to try and engage with people rather than throwing your toys out of the pram all day long.

nj27 · 01-05-2020 04:06PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I wonder what movie will be quoted from this time

Groundhog day

GooglePlus · 01-05-2020 04:06PM

Are we expecting Leo tonight?

Also, is boards slow as hell for anyone else?

boetstark · 01-05-2020 04:08PM

uli84 wrote: »

That’s unfortunately not true

Yes it is. Give examples apart from Sweden who BTW are now double our death toll.

gozunda · 01-05-2020 04:10PM

easypazz wrote: »

How many times has it been explained to you that nobody is saying this.

You should learn to read and try to understand other peoples viewpoints before constantly throwing your toys out of your pram.

I take that as your own repeated posts which deny that posts like the one to which I was relying that we should "just have to live with it" and wtte. I'm certainly taking your 'explanations for what they are worth. Bugger all squared imo.

And you will notice if you can be bothered that was a question. Im still waiting the answer.

I would politely suggest you should learn to read and try to understand other peoples comments before constantly screaming that others are wrong to question such 'viewpoints" before throwing your toys out of your pram

KrustyUCC · 01-05-2020 04:14PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/coronavirus-what-are-the-lockdown-measures-across-europe/a-52905137

This is a good summary of where other countries were

A lot of restrictions very similar to Ireland

Lot of others not

thegetawaycar · 01-05-2020 04:15PM

I'm sure some restrictions will be lifted, some will get back to work then watch everyone complain "if they are allowed on a building site then surely I can do what I want".
"How unfair, now I can work but can't enjoy my free time by going out with friends etc..."

I'm waiting to see how transport is affected when restrictions are partially lifted, the bus I get was packed before at 7.30am, when people are back in and with social distancing how is this going to work? Will we go to seeing everyone driving to work and the roads even busier than before?

facehugger99 · 01-05-2020 04:17PM

boetstark wrote: »

Yes it is. Give examples apart from Sweden who BTW are now double our death toll.

and more than double our population.

But sure don't let unfortunate facts like that get in the way.

stephenjmcd · 01-05-2020 04:19PM

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1256240856249643008?s=19

Pretty hard to police that

gozunda · 01-05-2020 04:27PM

easypazz wrote: »

Rubbish, we were allowed go 2kM for exercise, in Italy 200m, that hardly spread the virus much.

Our lockdown is as strict as most places.
You really need to learn to try and engage with people rather than throwing your toys out of the pram all day long.

Ever the master of the vague retort eh? You seem to like prams. Perhaps you should put yours away now :pac:

We are talking of restrictions and dates they were implemented in other countries btw. No mention was made of spreading 'the virus much' whatever that is supposed to mean.

Here are details of some of the restrictions taken from the link provided by a recent poster

First two mentioned. Italy and Spain

Italy issued a nationwide lockdown on March 9, ordering its 60 million residents to stay at home. Schools, universities and all non-essential businesses were closed — with supermarkets, banks, pharmacies and post offices allowed to remain open. Travel within Italy was banned except for health reasons or urgent matters.

People in Italy are only permitted to leave the house under certain circumstances, including: solitary exercise close to home, going grocery shopping or going to the doctor. They must print out a certificate at home declaring their reason for leaving the house, which will be checked by police. Those who violate the lockdown face fines between €400 to €3,000 ($430 to $3,227) or up to three months in jail.

The Spanish government declared a state of emergency on March 14, issuing a general confinement order for more than 46 million people.

Non-essential shops and schools have been ordered to shut, as well as hotels and tourist accommodation. Spain also closed its external borders with its European neighbors. People are limited to only leaving their homes to go to the pharmacy and grocery shopping. Outdoor exercise is also banned, except for taking a dog on a walk. Hundreds of thousands of police and military personnel are enforcing the lockdown.

Following their biggest one-day increase in deaths on March 28, Spain announced a toughening of the measures. All non-essential workers were told to stay home completely for two weeks until April 11. Starting on April 13, workers in construction and manufacturing were allowed to return to work, although other restrictions were extended until April 26.

Happy now or are you taking the pram out for another spin around the block?

uli84 wrote:

That’s unfortunately not true

Oh yes it is ...

See the above ...

PTH2009 · 01-05-2020 04:29PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1256240856249643008?s=19

Pretty hard to police that

Beaches and other hotspots will be hit hard by crowds of people

iamwhoiam · 01-05-2020 04:33PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Are we expecting Leo tonight?

Also, is boards slow as hell for anyone else?

On the PC its fine but on my phone its down to a slow crawl , it’s unusable on the phone at the minute

the kelt · 01-05-2020 04:35PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Beaches and other hotspots will be hit hard by crowds of people

Not if car parks remain locked and closed as they have been and as was offered as a solution to those issues previously.

boetstark · 01-05-2020 04:36PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

and more than double our population.

But sure don't let unfortunate facts like that get in the way.

No facts are they had a very moderate lock down but from first death in mid march they now have deaths multiplying and 2653 at present.

Hearty80 · 01-05-2020 04:39PM

Anyone know what time the announcement is?

Simon Harrison · 01-05-2020 04:40PM

easypazz wrote: »

Rubbish, we were allowed go 2kM for exercise, in Italy 200m, that hardly spread the virus much.

Our lockdown is as strict as most places.

Source?

Nobody wants or expects all restrictions to end now.

You really need to learn to try and engage with people rather than throwing your toys out of the pram all day long.

Your new adversary, one pops up every day.

omeara1113 · 01-05-2020 04:43PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Anyone know what time the announcement is?

6.30 I think

drunkmonkey · 01-05-2020 04:46PM

the kelt wrote: »

Not if car parks remain locked and closed as they have been and as was offered as a solution to those issues previously.

Those measures worked before the 2km rule. People didn't go as no parking or facilities.

stephenjmcd · 01-05-2020 04:52PM

CMO press briefing 5.30 , Leo 6.30

Balf · 01-05-2020 04:55PM

thegetawaycar wrote: »

I'm waiting to see how transport is affected when restrictions are partially lifted, the bus I get was packed before at 7.30am, when people are back in and with social distancing how is this going to work? Will we go to seeing everyone driving to work and the roads even busier than before?

This is one of the many reason why social distancing won't work, and is as unsustainable as the lockdown.

World won't work without public transport. Public transport won't work without people having very close social proximity. Let's call it social adjacency. For periods longer than 15 minutes.

Stark · 01-05-2020 04:57PM

Naos wrote: »

We have about 4x their population density as well as other factors, social customs being one.

Well we should adopt their social customs then.

Cyrus · 01-05-2020 05:01PM

gozunda wrote: »

Ever the master of the vague retort eh? You seem to like prams. Perhaps you should put yours away now :pac:

We are talking of restrictions and dates they were implemented in other countries btw. No mention was made of spreading 'the virus much' whatever that is supposed to mean.

Here are details of some of the restrictions taken from the link provided by a recent poster

First two mentioned. Italy and Spain

Happy now or are you taking the pram out for another spin around the block?

Oh yes it is ...

See the above ...

ours not that different to italy in reality

Enter name here · 01-05-2020 05:02PM

I just heard from a cousin of mine who is friends with the ex girlfriend of the the guy who delivers the just eats meals to the the guy who drives the bus that one of the politicians secretary catches to work on that there will be no lifting of restrictions and that all travellers are being rounded up and moved over to Arranmore Island permanently.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 01-05-2020 05:04PM

If they are doing 3 week periods and extending it by 2km to 5, to 10, to 20, to 50 - it will be August by the time people see friends / family. That is completely unacceptable. There needs to be some caveats in this.

drunkmonkey · 01-05-2020 05:05PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

CMO press briefing 5.30 , Leo 6.30

Is that the usual one on rte news now at 5.30?

the kelt · 01-05-2020 05:06PM

Enter name here wrote: »

I just heard from a cousin of mine who is friends with the ex girlfriend of the the guy who delivers the just eats meals to the the guy who drives the bus that one of the politicians secretary catches to work on that there will be no lifting of restrictions and that all travellers are being rounded up and moved over to Arranmore Island permanently.

Ah here, what exactly did Arranmore do wrong?

Simon Harrison · 01-05-2020 05:08PM

Kobe Colossal Cape wrote: »

If they are doing 3 week periods and extending it by 2km to 5, to 10, to 20, to 50 - it will be August by the time people see friends / family. That is completely unacceptable. There needs to be some caveats in this.

I don't think the distance you can travel will be in place beyond the first period. It's probably only being extended to keep a lid on things as we start to ease restrictions. #staythecourse

Enter name here · 01-05-2020 05:10PM

the kelt wrote: »

Ah here, what exactly did Arranmore do wrong?

Travellers need faster internet to process their insurance claims of course.

Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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