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Had enough of this lockdown am I the only person feeling like this?

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  • #212
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    Please God you don't have an accident, but if you do hopefully you will be killed on impact.

    I have a lot of friends in the emergency services and I wouldn't like them or their families put at risk because of some selfish cúnt.

    I actually work in the HSE, but I hate this virtue signalling by people, there will be **** all virtue signalling in six months when income tax stays the same but USC/PRD goes through the roof for people working in the HSE. It will have progressed to "Lucky to have jobs by then".

    I can understand OP frustration, social distancing is tough. I personally am finding it difficult although I have been practicing it since mid February. I have come around to idea we need to decide what we (as a country) see as an acceptable amount of deaths from COVID-19/day.

    I think it's time to move to the next stage, restart OPD appointments, some lifting of restrictions.

    We aren't living at the moment. We are existing.


  • #213
    Tokyo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Mod: @Boggles - Don't post in this thread again.


  • #214
    gary550
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭gary550


    Boggles wrote: »
    Please God you don't have an accident, but if you do hopefully you will be killed on impact.

    I have a lot of friends in the emergency services and I wouldn't like them or their families put at risk because of some selfish cúnt.

    What an absolutely horrid thing to say.


  • #215
    jonnny68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    XLR 8 wrote: »
    If we all behave as you intend to they will extend the lock down. So your defeating the purpose. I feel your pain we're all going a little off the rails. But dude we gotta suck it up for just a bit longer. The North Korea reference helps no one. I hope the 100hrs work that you currently are doing is as a result of the crisis & not the norm. If you want less hours then you above all of us need the rest of us to adhere to the restrictions. But so must you. I wish you well but someone who has worked 100 hours and seems to have issues dealing with all this is the last person who should be going for a spin. Your tired as it is ffs. If you have an episode that requires the intervention of other front line staff would you be happy to suffer the consequences ? Dude stay safe stay in sleep well and dream easy.

    Sick of people saying "suck it up" or just "deal with it" everyone circumstances are different, what about people with severe mental health problems with suicidal thoughts, should these people just "suck it up" what about elderly people who haven't been outside in 5 weeks and might have no family or people to talk to, should these people just "suck it up" what about people living in apartment or tower blocks who have no garden ,or large families where kids are bored and rows and arguments, sick of these poxy doom merchants, lockdown fanatics who get some perverse pleasure from being in lockdown,and it would appear there are many of them on here!!

    The facts are, cases have dropped significantly, most things to do with the virus have, yet the public are still being punished, despite high compliance, the economy is in tatters, if this continues this will have far far greater implications that the virus, you'll have people completely broken mentally , the economy will be completely fcuked and will take years and years to recover, some, not all restrictions need to be be eased ASAP.

    Common sense would be to lift the ridiculous 2km restriction, allow the elderly to get out and exercise, allow some shops to open with strict social distancing measures in place, review it again in a few weeks.


  • #216
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    WHO are saying the Swedish model is the best one. No lockdown. The lockdown was a one size fits all thing for every country, something that was never needed. It was ridiculous to implement in Ireland.



    Sweden is a model for the new coronavirus normal, says WHO
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sweden-is-a-model-for-the-new-coronavirus-normal-says-who-dd8fgw7d0

    Tis odd. From what I (albeit vaguely) recall of your opinions over time I would have thought favorably quoting the technocratic elite in one of the firmest established one world globalist organisations would not be your style.

    Even aside from that WHO have been, shall we charitably say, somewhat changeable in their various opinions on this outbreak.


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  • #217
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Boggles wrote: »
    Please God you don't have an accident, but if you do hopefully you will be killed on impact.

    I have a lot of friends in the emergency services and I wouldn't like them or their families put at risk because of some selfish cúnt.

    God help your friends you are a disgusting individual.


  • #218
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I'm looking forward to when the tax owed on it is claimed back.


    What tax is owed on it ?


  • #219
    jonnny68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    God help your friends you are a disgusting individual.

    that was an awful thing to say about you mate, jaysus this virus really has brought out the absolute worst in people, from despicable people like your man to doom and gloom merchants and lockdown fanatics happy to sit on their hole and claim €350 a week.


  • #220
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Tis odd. From what I (albeit vaguely) recall of your opinions over time I would have thought favorably quoting the technocratic elite in one of the firmest established one world globalist organisations would not be your style.

    Even aside from that WHO have been, shall we charitably say, somewhat changeable in their various opinions on this outbreak.

    I think you are mistaking me for someone else. I don't buy into the new world order, tinfoil hat, 5g is spreading disease, Rothschilds etc guff you are alluding to.


  • #221
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    ek motor wrote: »
    What tax is owed on it ?

    Income tax and USC will not be applied to the subsidy through the payroll (any tax liability that may arise will be reviewed at the end of the year)


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  • #222
    D3V!L
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    I feel the same way OP, its very very hard. I was in hospital for a month before this all started, only got out and then it kicked off. So I went from being locked up in hospital to being locked up at home.

    Keeping busy at home is helping a lot, each day myself and my wife find something constructive to do around the house. It gives your day purpose. Hopefully today will bring a little bit of light and hope when the government make an announcement this evening.


  • #223
    Gidea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Gidea


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I actually work in the HSE, but I hate this virtue signalling by people, there will be **** all virtue signalling in six months when income tax stays the same but USC/PRD goes through the roof for people working in the HSE. It will have progressed to "Lucky to have jobs by then".

    I can understand OP frustration, social distancing is tough. I personally am finding it difficult although I have been practicing it since mid February. I have come around to idea we need to decide what we (as a country) see as an acceptable amount of deaths from COVID-19/day.

    I think it's time to move to the next stage, restart OPD appointments, some lifting of restrictions.

    We aren't living at the moment. We are existing.

    "I want X amount of people dead a day so i can finally go to the pub/gym/rock climbing/brothel"

    Countless generations of people have just existed, weather it was through war, famine or plague. People are being asked to stay at home with a wealth of entertainment at their fingertips and just moan that it isnt fair:rolleyes:


  • #224
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I think you are mistaking me for someone else. I don't buy into the new world order, tinfoil hat, 5g is spreading disease, Rothschilds etc guff you are alluding to.

    Must be mistaking you. Neither do I buy into it. I think it was climate change threads where I saw you post about not trusting scientists etc. And other similar stuff. But Im far too lazy to back it up... :)
    What about the WHOs changeable views?


  • #225
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    I certainly feel like my mental health has been impacted by this. I haven't seen my parents in 2 months now.

    My mental health has been affected too, but more so because my parents won't get to support me when I have my first child in 3 weeks, and I don't know when they will meet her where it isn't via a window. I also have an almost unspeakable fear that given their ages and underlying conditions, they might never get to meet her if they contract the virus. That, and the knowledge that I am not the only one facing these fears, is giving me strength to do the right thing and stay at home.


  • #226
    Gidea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Gidea


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    WHO are saying the Swedish model is the best one. No lockdown. The lockdown was a one size fits all thing for every country, something that was never needed. It was ridiculous to implement in Ireland.



    Sweden is a model for the new coronavirus normal, says WHO
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sweden-is-a-model-for-the-new-coronavirus-normal-says-who-dd8fgw7d0
    The World Health Organisation lavished praise on Sweden as “a future model” in the next phase of fighting the outbreak because it has trusted people to observe social distancing rules.

    The swedes and prertty much all scandanavia has a diferent mindset to us. We cant trust ourselves to obverve social distancing if everything was running normally


  • #227
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Gidea wrote: »
    "I want X amount of people dead a day so i can finally go to the pub/gym/rock climbing/brothel"

    Countless generations of people have just existed, weather it was through war, famine or plague. People are being asked to stay at home with a wealth of entertainment at their fingertips and just moan that it isnt fair:rolleyes:

    You can’t even read. The poster is a HSE worker and thinks people who need hospital treatment other then Covid related should have access to health services. If you don’t agree then argue the point instead of monotonous finger wagging.


  • #228
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Must be mistaking you. Neither do I buy into it. I think it was climate change threads where I saw you post about not trusting scientists etc. And other similar stuff. But Im far too lazy to back it up... :)
    What about the WHOs changeable views?

    I don't but into their climate "models" which so far have a 100% failure rate.


  • #229
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Must be mistaking you. Neither do I buy into it. I think it was climate change threads where I saw you post about not trusting scientists etc. And other similar stuff. But Im far too lazy to back it up... :)
    What about the WHOs changeable views?

    I don't buy into their climate "models" which so far have a 100% failure rate.


  • #230
    Gidea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Gidea


    splinter65 wrote: »
    You can’t even read. The poster is a HSE worker and thinks people who need hospital treatment other then Covid related should have access to health services. If you don’t agree then argue the point instead of monotonous finger wagging.

    Hes arguing the point that we should accept a number of people dying per day. This is unacceptable in my mind as it would be asking me to accept the possibility of my parents dying as they are over 75 and in the at risk group. Im all for getting patients into hosptiples for non COVID related reasons, but we shouldnt accept daily deaths from a preventable virus in order to do this


  • #231
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    The selfishness of the few unfortunately comes to the fore at times like this with those who try to find ways to justify why the rules don't apply to them. Most people contribute to society but there'll always be a minority who are only interested in what society can offer them and we're seeing plenty of them in this thread.


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  • #232
    Gidea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Gidea


    splinter65 wrote: »
    You can’t even read. The poster is a HSE worker and thinks people who need hospital treatment other then Covid related should have access to health services. If you don’t agree then argue the point instead of monotonous finger wagging.

    He's arguing the point that we should accept a number of people dying per day. This is unacceptable in my mind as it would be asking me to accept the possibility of my parents dying as they are over 75 and in the at-risk group. I'm all for getting patients into hospitals for non-COVID related reasons, but we shouldn't accept daily deaths from a preventable virus in order to do this


  • #233
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Gidea wrote: »
    He's arguing the point that we should accept a number of people dying per day. This is unacceptable in my mind as it would be asking me to accept the possibility of my parents dying as they are over 75 and in the at-risk group. I'm all for getting patients into hospitals for non-COVID related reasons, but we shouldn't accept daily deaths from a preventable virus in order to do this

    Its not feasibly preventable though, still tens of thousands of new cases and thousands of deaths daily across Europe despite 6 weeks solid continent wide lockdown . Flu is a preventable disease by extent of that then, but it has never been eradicated, and never will be, we accept hundreds of thousands of deaths from it worldwide annually

    I'm not saying we sholdnt continue to make great efforts to prevent spread. But saying we should accept no covid deaths only, it not realistic


  • #234
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Must be mistaking you. Neither do I buy into it. I think it was climate change threads where I saw you post about not trusting scientists etc. And other similar stuff. But Im far too lazy to back it up... :)
    What about the WHOs changeable views?

    It's a moving feast type of thing, as more is learned about the disease then things will change. I'd be more worried if they had the same staunch view even as more became known about the disease.


  • #235
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Gidea wrote: »
    Hes arguing the point that we should accept a number of people dying per day. This is unacceptable in my mind as it would be asking me to accept the possibility of my parents dying as they are over 75 and in the at risk group. Im all for getting patients into hosptiples for non COVID related reasons, but we shouldnt accept daily deaths from a preventable virus in order to do this

    We accept a certain % of people who drive dying per year, or are you in favour of parking the car up until such a time we can drive without fatalities??


  • #236
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Gidea wrote: »
    The swedes and prertty much all scandanavia has a diferent mindset to us. We cant trust ourselves to obverve social distancing if everything was running normally

    AH Howya Leo, the damn proles just can't be trusted. :rolleyes:


  • #237
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Portugal are re-opening most shops and businesses including hairdressers from Monday, with the likes of museums, bars, restaurants, art galleries, and senior schools to re-open on 18th May. Fair play to them.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0430/1135935-portugal/


  • #238
    mulbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Finland reopening schools from May 14th


  • #239
    elefant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,694 ✭✭✭elefant


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Portugal are re-opening most shops and businesses including hairdressers from Monday, with the likes of museums, bars, restaurants, art galleries, and senior schools to re-open on 18th May. Fair play to them.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0430/1135935-portugal/

    Interesting that they're keeping schools closed and opening other things first. That's the opposite of what a lot of other European countries are doing.


  • #240
    mulbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Gidea wrote: »
    He's arguing the point that we should accept a number of people dying per day. This is unacceptable in my mind as it would be asking me to accept the possibility of my parents dying as they are over 75 and in the at-risk group. I'm all for getting patients into hospitals for non-COVID related reasons, but we shouldn't accept daily deaths from a preventable virus in order to do this

    Where's your proof this is preventable


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  • #241
    jonnny68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    Downlinz wrote: »
    The selfishness of the few unfortunately comes to the fore at times like this with those who try to find ways to justify why the rules don't apply to them. Most people contribute to society but there'll always be a minority who are only interested in what society can offer them and we're seeing plenty of them in this thread.

    i think you'll find the vast majority with the exception of the doom and gloom merchants and lockdown fanatics on here want SOME NOT ALL restrictions eased, dont you understand the implications will be far far greater than this virus if the economy crashes completely and wont get back on track for years and years,worldwide job losses, not to mention the severe detrimental mental health effect on people,the long list goes on and on and on.

    Other countries in a similar predicament to Ireland have announced restrictions to be eased, and some not all shops will reopen, the main things that need to be lifted are the 2km, people should be allowed to travel to see family and loved ones,whilst adhering to social distancing,etc, elderly need to be allowed to go out and exercise,these are the absolute minimum,if they dont then people have had enough and just wont comply anymore and there will end up being civil unrest.

    what does it take to get into some stupid peoples minds to see if these restrictions continue society as we know it will continue to disintegrate, cases are dropping every day, we are on the right track.


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