Relaxation of restrictions Part II

GazzaL wrote: »

That's bull****, and even the Government and HSE have rowed back on insulting the public, because it's as clear as day that the public have done their job on this.

Yes we can't stay locked up forever it'll be the summer soon if they can't control this now with social distancing etc how can they control it in the winter when flu season starts?

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Brilliant

So that's at least 8 weeks of lockdown with 0 reduction in restrictions

Bloody fantastic

I think they expect us to stay inside till a vaccine is found what if there is no vaccine?

KrustyUCC wrote: »

From 12th of March to 5th of May is 55 days

According to the Irish Times timetable it will be at least another 2 months if you don't live within 20km of your partner

Dr Holohan has said now it willl be at three weeks in between stages

You're now up to the end of July

How can the government expect any couple to stick to that?

id guess if someone cant make it to their OH, over few miles then prob they dont want to see each other :rolleyes: no ones blocking roads every day 24.7, doesnt take a genius to print some leaflet your essential worker, which no guard cares about either. If people think some knob head knows best when it ok for them to go see their family or loved ones, and they stick to it, then i guess carry on.

gmisk wrote: »

The recent evidence now seems to point to the fact you can't be reinfected.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-south-korean-reactivated-cases-not-reinfected-experts-2020-4

Also Dr Holohan confirmed no cases of reinfection in Ireland

What about this vascular inflammation children are getting is this a new strain or something?

setanta1984 wrote: »

The answers to these questions in the briefing are infuriating. They'll never be "happy" or have the numbers "where they want them" - until they are all 0, which is cuckoo land.
They'll never recommend easing anything, the country has no hope unless some other authority brings some perspective on what constitutes life in this country.

Yes theirs no plan on the horizon nothing its like the same briefing every evening

Goose76 wrote: »

For how long though? Are at risk groups expect to wave goodbye to all meaniful aspects of their entire lives (and indeed livelihoods) until there's a widely available vaccine?

I cannot believe there isn't more focus and attention given to this, both on official news sites and speculative mediums like Boards.

Perhaps the best solution is to let the vulnerable remain cocooned while the rest begin to carry on with life as normal. Let the virus spread among the non-vulnerable who will recover and gain natural immunity. When there is enough community immunity the vulnerable are relatively safe.

The virus isn't going to be eradicated. Trying to keep the spread as low as possible is futile and counterproductive—that will just keep us in a perpetual state of suspended animation.

Quarantining the healthy is not the way to deal with an airborne respiratory virus that has the lethality of a bad flu season.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

A few of days ago I would have agreed with you, then the sh!t hit the fan locally in the last couple of days with a factory having over 80 positive tests and 200 staff out. People are going nuts as those people aren't isolating, so in 2 weeks time we should have a burst of cases due to this idiot employer who wanted to keep the show on the road at all costs. It's crap that like that will keep us in lockdown.
Isolating has to be mandatory and forced, I know why they were welding apartments shut in Whuhan now.
I'm not happy about this, I'm not a lockdowner but I see the problem with the soft approach and trusting people to do the right thing.

It's shortsighted selfish money grabbers like this that will keep us in a situation where we need to continue restrictions.

They are too stupid to see the consequences of their own actions. How will they keep their show on the road if a significant number of their employees are out sick or have to self isolate? This possibly happening in repeated cycles.

No business can run effectively if it has to almost shut down every time an employee tests positive. If a business hasn't planned for effective social distancing and containment it's not going to be able to operate restrictions or not. It's cowboys like this that prolong the need for restrictions for everybody else.

moonage wrote: »

Perhaps the best solution is to let the vulnerable remain cocooned while the rest begin to carry on with life as normal. Let the virus spread among the non-vulnerable who will recover and gain natural immunity. When there is enough community immunity the vulnerable are relatively safe.

The virus isn't going to be eradicated. Trying to keep the spread as low as possible is futile and counterproductive—that will just keep us in a perpetual state of suspended animation.

Quarantining the healthy is not the way to deal with an airborne respiratory virus that has the lethality of a bad flu season.

All indications point to it having a lethality higher than the flu so that is nonsense.

Literally the only person I know personally who thought herd immunity was a better bet was my mum.
In fairness she was a nurse for 30 plus years then a health visitor and thought herd immunity amongst families with kids under the age of 11, with cocooning of vulnerable people, plus social distancing etc would have made most sense in the long run.
Maybe she was right who knows.

Sean 18 wrote: »

Yes theirs no plan on the horizon nothing its like the same briefing every evening

Given up watching those about two weeks ago. There’s never anything new bar sadly a new death toll. I check in here for latest info and rumours.

SNNUS wrote: »

A doctor should not be in charge of the country. The longer they lock down, numbers of other medical issues will rise plus livelihoods will be gone for many.

It's quite telling that in the 5 points up for consideration, the economy isn't one of them. Taoiseach Tony's daily update is basically him saying **** family, **** relationships, **** jobs, **** business. We will see more widespread breaking of restrictions.

Will any of our elected representatives hold him to account? Will any of them try to save ordinary, hard-working people?

GazzaL wrote: »

That's bull****, and even the Government and HSE have rowed back on insulting the public, because it's as clear as day that the public have done their job on this.

The vast majority of the public have done their job. Other posters have highlighted two large food processing businesses in different areas of the country which are at the centre of large clusters of CoViD-19 so it is clear a small minority is not doing their job to help contain this virus. This small minority are part of the problem.