Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

stephenjmcd · 29-04-2020 11:45PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/29/remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-experimental

Not sure what to make of the remdesivir trials, excellent news if it does have an effect but can't help but think they're saying it just to appease trump

Miike · 29-04-2020 11:47PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/29/remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-experimental

Not sure what to make of the remdesivir trials, excellent news if it does have an effect but can't help but think they're saying it just to appease trump

Remdesivir experimental data has been promising long before Trump jumped on the hype train. It's one of the drugs I've been following very closely and shows moderate promise. At this stage I would take a radioactive isotope if it meant I could go see my friends and family for just one day.

owlbethere · 29-04-2020 11:49PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/29/remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-experimental

Not sure what to make of the remdesivir trials, excellent news if it does have an effect but can't help but think they're saying it just to appease trump

Wasn't there something not so long ago where it showed this drug wasn't looking very promising in the treatment for this covid19.

Eod100 · 29-04-2020 11:49PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Its in August.
This is April.

Events with over 5000 which need a licence have already been cancelled. Can't see sports fixtures in the summer going ahead such as GAA so chances of a US college football match with 30 or 40,000 Americans at it seems very slim even a few months out.

hmmm · 29-04-2020 11:50PM

political analyst wrote: »

If the lockdown continues after May the 5th, will it be because of those outdoor parties in Dublin that were shown in videos shared on social media? Is there any link between the parties and a surge in the number of Covid cases?

Yes, everyone in those videos now have Covid. All will be travelling to their holiday homes down the country this weekend however.

Re asymptomatic spread the jury is still out. I know Twitter has decided that asymptomatic spreaders are infecting everyone, but the medical profession are still undecided whether that is actually the case. There is very little peer reviewed evidence of asymptomatic spreaders actually causing much of the outbreaks.

There's a similar dilemma with children. Everyone except the medical professionals are in agreement that children are spreading the disease everywhere, and the evidence just isn't there at the moment that this is the case. Just because kids spread colds or the flu doesn't mean they can be assumed to spread Covid.

So from that perspective it's a perfectly rational strategy given current information to focus only on people showing obvious symptoms and isolating them. Obviously if the information changes this will also have to change.

keynes · 29-04-2020 11:50PM

owlbethere wrote: »

One of the journalists mentioned earlier that theres an American football game due to be played in Dublin aviva stadium in August. I mean like why is gods name is that not being cancelled? Inviting more disease to come into the country again.

Precisely. 35000 from US due to come for a game between two American (yes American) teams. If the Germans can cancel OKtoberfest, why can't this be cancelled before there is momentum behind it

stephenjmcd · 29-04-2020 11:51PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Wasn't there something not so long ago where it showed this drug wasn't looking very promising in the treatment for this covid19.

Yeah in china but apparently they didn't complete the trial due to lack of patients, they said they didn't see much difference. But I'd also take anything coming out of China with a pinch of salt surrounding covid

poppers · 29-04-2020 11:51PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/29/remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-experimental

Not sure what to make of the remdesivir trials, excellent news if it does have an effect but can't help but think they're saying it just to appease trump

Irish times report from last thursday said it failed

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/gilead-antiviral-drug-remdesivir-flops-in-first-trial-1.4236336%3fmode=amp

hmmm · 29-04-2020 11:52PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/29/remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-experimental

Not sure what to make of the remdesivir trials, excellent news if it does have an effect but can't help but think they're saying it just to appease trump

It was a blind study with over 1,000 worldwide participants, so was very solid. Even better was there was no difference between those who took a 5-day and 10-day course, so the doses available effectively doubles. This was not the Chinese study btw which was only for very sick patients, this study looked at giving patients Remdesivir much earlier in their illness.

At the press conference Trump looked completely uninterested. No money to be made I guess.

Fauci was pretty excited. It's not a cure, but it's the first thing we have that is going to make a real impact.

Hurrache · 29-04-2020 11:52PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

No don’t be daft parties exist outside of Dublin also

In holiday homes. Owned by joggers. Bought from cyclists.

stephenjmcd · 29-04-2020 11:52PM

Miike wrote: »

Remdesivir experimental data has been promising long before Trump jumped on the hype train. It's one of the drugs I've been following very closely and shows moderate promise. At this stage I would take a radioactive isotope if it meant I could go see my friends and family for just one day.

Thats good, I'd just seen trump mention it a few times and now they'd published the data, cynical me, but great if its promising.

Stheno · 29-04-2020 11:52PM

owlbethere wrote: »

All of that sounds dreadful. That would be considered the 80% mild bracket. I read on another forum, people having symptoms for 40+ days and ongoing.

Where I work, in January and February loads of people went skiing and came back to work

Then a fair few people in the office came down with some sort of vile illness, no one was tested or ended ip in hospital so had m I'll ld illnesses but it dragged on for several weeks for some people whatever it was

I've a colleague in another country who tested positive and cannot be cleared to leave his house until he has two back to back negative tests
He's a month positive this weekend and still testing positive

Now he.wasnt particularly sick but has still not feeling great and has a very slim, fit guy

Spencer Brown · 29-04-2020 11:52PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/opinion/coronavirus-recovery.html

I'm on a "Slack" group (like Discord) with thousands of people who have had this virus and their testimonies are less than encouraging.

There's a subsection for people 60+ days after testing positive and here's an excerpt.

There are thousands and thousands of people saying they first showed symptoms 40+ days ago with very little improvement, coming and going day to day.

Is there a poll on this group or are you just estimating its 1000s and 1000s?

Miike · 29-04-2020 11:54PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Thats good, I'd just seen trump mention it a few times and now they'd published the data, cynical me, but great if its promising.

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/nih-clinical-trial-shows-remdesivir-accelerates-recovery-advanced-covid-19

Less of a news article and more to the point, if you're interested.

fritzelly · 29-04-2020 11:54PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/29/remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-experimental

Not sure what to make of the remdesivir trials, excellent news if it does have an effect but can't help but think they're saying it just to appease trump

Was there not reports of people on it regressing with the virus after the treatment was stopped i.e. it helps the body fight it off but the virus can still come back if the immune system wasn't successful at killing it completely?

Miike · 29-04-2020 11:56PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Was there not reports of people on it regressing with the virus after the treatment was stopped i.e. it helps the body fight it off but the virus can still come back if the immune system wasn't successful at killing it completely?

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/23/data-on-gileads-remdesivir-released-by-accident-show-no-benefit-for-coronavirus-patients/

growleaves · 29-04-2020 11:57PM

Hurrache wrote: »

In holiday homes. Owned by joggers. Bought from cyclists.

Bulgarian fruit-pickers stay in these holiday homes when they're not being used.

I asked the CMO could I bang some yanks in there this August on account of a football game and his face twisted in disgust. "Eurrghhh!!!" was all he could manage. Sorry I asked..

nickkinneg · 29-04-2020 11:57PM

Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin

Kermit.de.frog · 29-04-2020 11:57PM

Another 2,000+ day for new deaths in the US as Pennsylvania reports highest toll so far at 294.

GooglePlus · 29-04-2020 11:57PM

Guys I hear the virus can't last too long on copper. Why aren't we just using our out of circulation 1s and 2s to make super effective ppe chainmail?

stephenjmcd · 29-04-2020 11:58PM

Miike wrote: »

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/nih-clinical-trial-shows-remdesivir-accelerates-recovery-advanced-covid-19

Less of a news article and more to the point, if you're interested.

Great thanks for that

Miike · 29-04-2020 11:58PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Guys I hear the virus can't last too long on copper. Why aren't we just using our out of circulation 1s and 2s to make super effective ppe chainmail?

Because its plated steel not solid copper :pac:

AlmightyCushion · 29-04-2020 11:59PM

keynes wrote: »

Precisely. 35000 from US due to come for a game between two American (yes American) teams. If the Germans can cancel OKtoberfest, why can't this be cancelled before there is momentum behind it

If we had an Oktoberfest like event here it would also be cancelled as it would require a license. Sports events do not require a license so are not technically banned. They more than likely won't be going ahead regardless.

Atlantic Dawn · 30-04-2020 12:00AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Another 2,000+ day for new deaths in the US as Pennsylvania reports highest toll so far at 294.

I think 150k before Summer is done would be a very conservative estimate.

GooglePlus · 30-04-2020 12:00AM

Miike wrote: »

Because its plated steel not solid copper :pac:

So our coppers aren't even copper anymore?

The virus can take me, I've had enough.

Miike · 30-04-2020 12:01AM

GooglePlus wrote: »

So our coppers aren't even Cooper's anymore?

The virus can take me, I've had enough.

I really needed this laugh, thank you :pac::D:pac:

AlmightyCushion · 30-04-2020 12:01AM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Guys I hear the virus can't last too long on copper. Why aren't we just using our out of circulation 1s and 2s to make super effective ppe chainmail?

We need to fill our lungs with copper coins, that should help stop the virus.

fritzelly · 30-04-2020 12:02AM

Miike wrote: »

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/23/data-on-gileads-remdesivir-released-by-accident-show-no-benefit-for-coronavirus-patients/

Perfect thanks, so probably pure coincidence or maybe it just helps a little bit by suppressing the virus enough to give the body a chance to fight it off which maybe all it takes

Stheno · 30-04-2020 12:02AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

We need to fill our lungs with copper coins, that should help stop the virus.

No. Melt the copper then drink it :pac:

retro:electro · 30-04-2020 12:03AM

Gynoid wrote: »

For those (few) who say Yada Yada we gotta die sometime..
Sure, we have all the usual suspects. Cancer, accident, a coronary. As mortal beings we have made a fairly uneasy peace with that. Whole philosophies and empires have been built out of that truce-making exercise.
But a couple of months ago an invisible space ship started haunting the sky out of nowhere and it started shooting out lightning bolts. It looks like the bolts hit those not able to run fast the worst. Over 1000 have died. That's just here. Parts of Italy got crucified. Spain too. France. New York. Bolts zapping 10s of 1000s stone dead.
A lot get hit from the invisible ship and don't even feel it but now they can shoot out invisible bolts from their finger tips that might zap someone else pretty bad.
A lot get hit and fall down but not too bad and they get up and are relieved. Phew. There are a lot of bolts it seems, pyung pyung pying. Easy enough to get hit. Thank goodness most zaps are okay.
Some are getting hit, getting up but feeling really lousy afterwards, even weeks and weeks later. Those ones are saying Fcuk man, I got a mild zap they said but you really do not want to get zapped by those invisible bolts.
We know hardly anything about this space ship and the mysterious invisible bolts. It is kind of simple to say Yada yada it's been 2 months already people, just get on with it.

I thanked your post mostly for the bit in bold

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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