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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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  • #4142
    Multipass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    Looks like restrictions are easing now, whatever the government says. Saw a small paint shop open today, and also a cafe with outdoor seating. All garden centres around here have also reopened.


  • #4143
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Just watching the 9 O'Clock news when the report came on about the role of NPHET. Seems to be no social distancing going on the for the 20 or so committee members. Anyone else see this?


  • #4144
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Ivan Yates again offered something thats been AWOL in irish journalism and media lately and that was a voice to those who question the viability of two further weeks at the current restriction level's. A voice and opinion thats neither present in decision making or considered in any way relevant in this period of democratic absecence. The media silence is shocking
    -Journalists are required to submit questions before press conferences to have subjective answers returned.
    -The disgusting gaslighting from Dr Tony. To deflect optics from the care home crisis what does he do?? Blame the people for a lack of compliance, mentioning an increase seismic activity.
    -One of the largest ever Gardai undertakings in the state is being orchestrated only to prevent people walking on beaches and local beauty spots. Yet NI residents are free to travel
    -Still no transparency regarding the private hospitals, 1700 free beds
    But it looks like people will wait until May 20th, with the private hospitals still closed, with no transparency on testing, to be spun some other bulls##it to extend a further 2 weeks. I have no confidence , listening to what's being released today, that the correct decision will be made on May 20th.
    This is not a health crisis, this is a leadership crisis

    If the numbers were greater Ivan would be decrying it as a health crisis.
    If people were allowed to continue working, socialising, Ivan would still call it a crisis of vested interests.
    If government appeared to be focus on political viewpoints at this stage (as in UK and US) Ivan would call it a crisis of unelected officials.

    I like Ivan, but he can run with the hare and hunt with the hounds as much as anyone given the extensive time he has spent both in politics and in the media.


  • #4145
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    zerosugarbuzz wrote: »
    Just watching the 9 O'Clock news when the report came on about the role of NPHET. Seems to be no social distancing going on the for the 20 or so committee members. Anyone else see this?

    It was on the 6 o'clock news too. There seems to be confusion if the clip was from a few weeks ago or not. Why would they use an old clip? Regardless, completely the wrong message to send out.


  • #4146
    sideswipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    They have been working on a vaccine for covid a year before the pandemic but these vaccines arnt profitable and they couldn't get the funding. So, they already have a good headstart. Plus the govt have thrown millions at it now. They will be giving it to a lot more people next week as the ones whove received it already are doing OK. He just hopes community transmission isn't to low in the UK for them to se its efficacy but even if it is he can go to a hot spot somewhere else even in USA. He thinks September it will be ready if it works. PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE!!!!!

    Have you a link to details on this please, would love o see some glimmer of light at the end of the covid tunnel!


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  • #4147
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    76 arrests out of a population of 4.904 million is hardly much haha
    Nope it is tiny considering France fined 350k people for breaking lockdown (that was 1sr April) so lot more now


  • #4148
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Multipass wrote: »
    Looks like restrictions are easing now, whatever the government says. Saw a small paint shop open today, and also a cafe with outdoor seating. All garden centres around here have also reopened.

    Where is here ??


  • #4149
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tell me how wrote: »
    If the numbers were greater Ivan would be decrying it as a health crisis.
    If people were allowed to continue working, socialising, Ivan would still call it a crisis of vested interests.
    If government appeared to be focus on political viewpoints at this stage (as in UK and US) Ivan would call it a crisis of unelected officials.

    I like Ivan, but he can run with the hare and hunt with the hounds as much as anyone given the extensive time he has spent both in politics and in the media.

    At least he’s asking questions !


  • #4150
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,207 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I don't want to sound like a 'rebel' but I went into the city centre office today for the first time in 9 weeks (I had been self isolating for 2 weeks before restrictions with suspected case but never got tested/got test cancelled).

    Feel much better mentally this evening and will be going back in once a week from now on even if I am not technically 'supposed' to. I have a letter and can have a good excuse as to why i am travelling if stopped.

    My office is a small one and no issue maintaining social distance even if everyone was in.
    In fact today there was only 1 other person in a 5 story building, never was withing 10 metres of anyone never mind 2.
    Basically not allowing me to go into the office once in a while is stupid and a rule I will not be following going forward. I prefer to use common sense over diktats and won't be feeling like a criminal for getting out of the house once in a while.
    Unfortunately common sense is not as common as one would like it to be. A quick look through this thread is evidence of that.


  • #4151
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Deleted User wrote: »
    At least he’s asking questions !

    He's not really. He's claiming what could/should/would be done differently but he would choose an angle to do that irrespective of what the government are/were doing.


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  • #4152
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    GazzaL wrote: »
    It was on the 6 o'clock news too. There seems to be confusion if the clip was from a few weeks ago or not. Why would they use an old clip? Regardless, completely the wrong message to send out.

    Totally agree, why would RTE be stupid enough to use an old clip, and how old would it need to be to justify that much close contact when meeting about a pandemic.


  • #4153
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    kippy wrote: »
    Unfortunately common sense is not as common as one would like it to be. A quick look through this thread is evidence of that.

    You see, that's rubbish.
    95% of people are respectful of ' the spirit of the rules'.
    The other 5% are going to disobey them no matter how harsh they are.

    You shouldn't punish the 95% because of the 5%


  • #4154
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Long_Wave wrote: »
    Ireland hitched itself to the UK back in late March and they'll be no plan until the UK announces something.

    I've never read some amount of unsubstantiated nonsense in one thread.

    The above is a prime example.

    Sure **** it open up everything so!! Be grand sure.

    The danger is far from gone ffs. The answer lies in the ramping up of testing and the very slow easing of restrictions. Not enough of the former yet.


  • #4155
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I've never read some amount of unsubstantiated nonsense in one thread.

    The above is a prime example.

    Sure **** it open up everything so!! Be grand sure.

    The danger is far from gone ffs.

    Not to mention that the UK pursued herd immunity while Ireland started to shut down and that Northern Ireland is still operating under different restrictions to the south.


  • #4156
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tell me how wrote: »
    He's not really. He's claiming what could/should/would be done differently but he would choose an angle to do that irrespective of what the government are/were doing.

    It’s still good as it creates discourse.
    Yates plays Devils Advocate most of the time, he’s a wind up merchant, but he’s articulate and knows both the political and media game and he’s not afraid of either. At times like this questions needs to be asked and answered.

    (I was delighted he brought up the topic of the empty private hospitals yesterday and some patients who are very ill, are under the care of consultants, in urgent need of operations, but who are now on hold indefinitely)


  • #4157
    addaword
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭addaword


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Not to mention that the UK pursued herd immunity while Ireland started to shut down and that Northern Ireland is still operating under different restrictions to the south.

    N.I has less infections / deaths per head of population than us though, I think.


  • #4158
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,328 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    addaword wrote: »
    N.I has less infections / deaths per head of population than us though, I think.

    Are they reporting those numbers in the same way as us though?


  • #4159
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    addaword wrote: »
    N.I has less infections / deaths per head of population than us though, I think.

    They have different testing requirements and they also only count hospital deaths while we count all deaths as well as "possible" deaths. Apples and oranges.


  • #4160
    sideswipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    addaword wrote: »
    N.I has less infections / deaths per head of population than us though, I think.

    Less testing and hospital only deaths?


  • #4161
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,332 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    The U.S state of Georgia, with roughly the population and number of Covid deaths as here too, has started it's reopening with restrictions...Gyms, fitness centers, bowling alleys, body art studios, barbershops, and hair salons were allowed to open

    heres-what-the-state-of-georgia-looks-like-now-that-it-has

    How will it work out? We'll have to wait 14 days to find out.....


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  • #4162
    snowcat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭snowcat


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I've never read some amount of unsubstantiated nonsense in one thread.

    The above is a prime example.

    Sure **** it open up everything so!! Be grand sure.

    The danger is far from gone ffs. The answer lies in the ramping up of testing and the very slow easing of restrictions. Not enough of the former yet.

    How far do you want to go. We have one of the highest testing rates in the world in populations oner 4 million. Give a figure on what you want on testing?


  • #4163
    addaword
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭addaword


    Multipass wrote: »
    Looks like restrictions are easing now, whatever the government says. Saw a small paint shop open today, and also a cafe with outdoor seating. All garden centres around here have also reopened.

    Correct. In the north-west there is even a clothes sports shop that is open, you just ring the phone number on their door or in their numerous facebook ads to get in. Lights and all are on.


  • #4164
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    sideswipe wrote: »
    Have you a link to details on this please, would love o see some glimmer of light at the end of the covid tunnel!
    Its in the Irish Times today Coronavirus: Irish scientist’s team leaps ahead in race to find a vaccine.


  • #4165
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    addaword wrote: »
    N.I has less infections / deaths per head of population than us though, I think.

    NI has 50% more deaths per head of population when deaths outside hospital are included.


  • #4166
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Where is here ??

    No rating!!!


  • #4167
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    normanoffside wrote: »
    NI has 50% more deaths per head of population when deaths outside hospital are included.

    Where are you getting those figures from


  • #4168
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,217 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    How will people react to wanting to go out for a few pints but will have to go to a pub which is under heavy social restrictions ??

    It will be like being in school 'eh John your 2 close there', 'sorry guys you cant sit there cause theres 1 person sitting at the bar and you will be too close to them'

    Could be more hassle than it's worth


  • #4169
    C__MC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Shambles this hold lockdown

    Very poorly managed


  • #4170
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    You can go visit if you’re bringing them something they need and just stand back safely in the garden. I shop for my parents and drop over with my daughter. Leave bags on their step, hit the doorbell and walk back to the end of their driveway. Have a quick chat with them.

    The 2km is only for exercising.

    And despite that, Dr Tony will use this 'seismic activity' data to 'prove' that we are disobeying rules and being bold little children.

    Don't be listening to him, he is full of it.


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  • #4171
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    How will people react to wanting to go out for a few pints but will have to go to a pub which is under heavy social restrictions ??

    It will be like being in school 'eh John your 2 close there', 'sorry guys you cant sit there cause theres 1 person sitting at the bar and you will be too close to them'

    Could be more hassle than it's worth

    Nobody really expects to get back to the pub next week.


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