Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Yes, on this I agree, it would seem necessary to put in place other measures to accommodate lessening of restrictions, including masks in certain cases.

For me I just have a worry that I will fidget more with them and be more likely to cross contaminate myself than currently, when I have trained myself to go no-where near my face at all until I am home and hands washed.

There you go yet again... mixing up protection of the individual with the protection of the community from the individual.

*sigh*

Italy reports 2,091 new cases of coronavirus and 382 new deaths.

Total of 201,505 cases and 27,359 deaths

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

And we still have open borders without any monitoring or strict quarantine from the hottest spot in Europe.

It's almost as if the HSE and the CMO want the virus to spread here !

Words fail me !

*Attacks our government and claims we have one of the highest death rates*

*Shown evidence that our death rates are far lower than all our neighbours*

*Attacks our government for existing on an island close to our neighbours*

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Glass half full as usual Father

Maybe fatigued!

My glass will be full when we have 3 days in a row of low death numbers.

None of this low one day, and almost double the next or following day.

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Interesting graph showing excess mortality in Europe this week.

Source here https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1255100687953920000

Interesting when you scroll back, at no point during the crisis has Ireland seen an excess death rate. But we did have some high excess rates over Winter 2017 - 2018, meaning so far we've managed to contain the virus to something that has done less damage than a bit of snow. Pretty incredible accomplishment really.

Obviously when I say less damage that doesn't include economic damage and other fallout of course.

Covid-19 and smoking... a review of the confusing evidence.

Does Smoking Prevent Covid-19 or is it a myth?

"However, Chinese researches noticed early on that smokers were less likely to end up in A&E or be admitted to ICU and did publish some studies suggesting this counter intuitive fact. Only 12% of Chinese infections in ICU were smokers in a population where 52% of males are smokers. These studies were weak as many of the Covid-19 patients did not have a proper smoking status assigned. An American study confirmed the findings but again there was significant problems with the data.

So the French group, working in Paris and studying a cohort of Parisenns, in March and early April trying to ensure robust data on smoking status, covid-19 status and the degree of illness. From nearly 500 Covid-19 patients who went to A&E or were hospitalised and ended up in ICU, they found that only around 5% were daily smokers compared to the French public with a smoking prevalence of some 25%."

Sheepdish1 wrote: »

How do people cocoon in houses where there are three generations or houses that are cramped due to poor housing market ?

There are a lot of people living in cramped housing due to housing shortage. How do people who live in these houses cocoon when other people they share with are working etc going to school.

Genuinely wondering how it’s possible

They don't, because realistically full self-isolation is just impossible in circumstances described.

Government/DOH should at least have been running an information campaign from the start on how best to attempt to address problems of living with everyone at home concurrently.

They could have based it on practical recommendations from a group of parents in that sort of situation who had psychologists and architects advising them on likely stressors and methods for preventing/alleviating them in the unique circumstances confronting them.

Instead they just pretended the problem of multi-generational overcrowded households didn't exist, and left it to TV/Radio to provide ad hoc suggestions to viewers/listeners.

Just one of the many things that could have been done, but were not. Of course the existence of such a campaign would have been extremely embarrassing politically. Now the problems arising from chaotic living under COVID-19 will bite later in someone else's bailiwick, on someone else's watch.

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Covid-19 and smoking... a review of the confusing evidence.

Does Smoking Prevent Covid-19 or is it a myth?

"However, Chinese researches noticed early on that smokers were less likely to end up in A&E or be admitted to ICU and did publish some studies suggesting this counter intuitive fact. Only 12% of Chinese infections in ICU were smokers in a population where 52% of males are smokers. These studies were weak as many of the Covid-19 patients did not have a proper smoking status assigned. An American study confirmed the findings but again there was significant problems with the data.

So the French group, working in Paris and studying a cohort of Parisenns, in March and early April trying to ensure robust data on smoking status, covid-19 status and the degree of illness. From nearly 500 Covid-19 patients who went to A&E or were hospitalised and ended up in ICU, they found that only around 5% were daily smokers compared to the French public with a smoking prevalence of some 25%."

Whats the % of smokers who are > 75 compared to the whole population?

59 dead RIP
299 new cases

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I said I was only concerned about myself. Lighten up

I am always 'lightened up', I assure you

We all need a good dose of that at times like this.

amadangomor wrote: »

Just confronted spitty boy there. When I say boy he was probably in his 30s and should know better.

Eejit was on a bike up ahead and did two big spits on the footpath after washing his mouth out with lucozade sport.

I lost it after the second one and called him a knacker. He circled back and I asked him has he not heard of Coronavirus. He said of course he has and that he has a vulnerable mother. I said what about other people who have vulnerable relatives and that have to walk in your spit!

To my surprise he apologised for the spitting

Becareful where you use that word i know people who have serious facial injuries for just letting that word come out of their mouth theirs a type of sub human who really dont like the word knacker.

Hmmmm gav Reilly’s tweet is interesting


Lot of ppl are asking if the bad flu going around at Christmas time was covid. I suspect it was