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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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  • #2462
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    easypazz wrote: »
    Below is from the government list. Going to the newsagents every day to buy a newspaper is perfectly within the rules.


    the publishing of newspapers, journals and periodicals as well as video, television programme production, sound recording, radio and television broadcasting; wired and satellite and

    The papers. OK, and the Lotto (looking at you Kerry), fags, milk, bread and a chat with the owner. Mask on, gloves on what's the problem?


  • #2463
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    splendid101 wrote: »
    They have around about the same amount of cases as us, are testing less than half as much and have double the deaths.


    Saying the lockdown is pointless because there were 700 new cases shows a complete misunderstanding of the virus and the reason for any restrictions.

    They have double our population so you would expect them to have double the deaths anyway


  • #2464
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,027 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    They are 150 miles away, my sister travelled 40 miles to see them last friday and was stopped and interrogated 4 times. They are ok but really miss everyone, I wouldn't risk infecting them I just want to sit in their garden at a safe distance.

    Go sit in their garden and if you've been locked down give them a hug as you don't have it.
    Hugs will be allowed on the 5th.


  • #2465
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    easypazz wrote: »
    Nobody will be exposed if precautions are followed.


    if you think so, I wouldn't do that to my parents to be honest unless they needed my support for health, but to go over to their house just for a visit? silly


  • #2466
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Go sit in their garden and if you've been locked down give them a hug as you don't have it.
    Hugs will be allowed on the 5th.


    LOL


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  • #2467
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    And it makes perfect sense to you in this particular time to go out everyday to the newsagent ...rrright

    Buying a newspaper breaks no rules.


  • #2468
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Zetor19 wrote: »
    Is it not better to have more cases and obviously less deaths. The more people have it the better , the sooner it burns out?

    Britain tried that remember did not work out 2 well for them. Backtracked quickly. There has been no definitive answer to if you can get it twice.


  • #2469
    alwald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭alwald


    It's quite clear, after reading some posts on this thread, that many anti restrictions lockdown brigade are:
    - Not knowledgeable enough about C-19
    - Sharing wrong/inaccurate information and advice
    - Think that they are experts because they red 2 articles about Sweden and vitamin D
    - Not aware of the definition of a lockdown :pac:

    No-one in their right frame of mind want these restrictions to last longer than needed, but the quality of some posts/info shared in this thread is a joke.


  • #2470
    Spencer Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Spencer Brown


    It's like whack-a-mole. Timbits finally disappears and Nic 1792 pops up.


  • #2471
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    splendid101 wrote: »
    Agree with your point but just to note that those figures are per million people.


    Yep correct, Sweden tested less people by million people
    In a way it makes sense for them since they are not bothered with how many people get infected as they want to run this through as quickly as possible


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  • #2472
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    There going back 1-2 days a week, half the class at a time. Just wait and see.

    Oh that could happen yes be easier could seperate the kids in the classes but going out to play will not happen. The whole classes all together not a chance is what I meant


  • #2473
    splendid101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭splendid101


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    It is obviously having no effect on your economic situation now or in the future. Lucky you.


    Maybe I can see the bigger picture beyond my own situation?


  • #2474
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,550 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    They are 150 miles away, my sister travelled 40 miles to see them last friday and was stopped and interrogated 4 times. They are ok but really miss everyone, I wouldn't risk infecting them I just want to sit in their garden at a safe distance.

    As I said, I wouldn’t hesitate. Sit in the garden and talk to them face to face in the open air, it will no doubt give them a huge boost.


  • #2475
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    alwald wrote: »
    It's quite clear, after reading some posts on this thread, that many anti restrictions lockdown brigade are:
    - Not knowledgeable enough about C-19
    - Sharing wrong/inaccurate information and advice
    - Think that they are experts because they red 2 articles about Sweden and vitamin D
    - Not aware of the definition of a lockdown :pac:

    No-one in their right frame of mind want these restrictions to last longer than needed, but the quality of some posts/info shared in this thread is a joke.


    Yep, and these people are out there applying their inadequate logic for all of us to deal with the consequences


  • #2476
    Priscilla Thankful Zipper
    Posts: 0 ✭ Priscilla Thankful Zipper


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    They are 150 miles away, my sister travelled 40 miles to see them last friday and was stopped and interrogated 4 times. They are ok but really miss everyone, I wouldn't risk infecting them I just want to sit in their garden at a safe distance.

    I’ve been travelling cork to Waterford up and down in the one day to visit my elderly parents every wkend since Easter. Five checkpoints each way usually, only three this Saturday...once I said I was visiting my elderly parents, they wave me on, I was never interrogated in anyway. Then I sit in the garden for a few hours with them and go home again

    Honest to god go...even for yourself. It would give them such a lift too!


  • #2477
    alwald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭alwald


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Yep, and these people are out there applying their inadequate logic for all of us to deal with the consequences

    Why should't they? they surely know better than the CMO/experts in this field and they believe that vitamin D is a cure :D.


  • #2478
    Zetor19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭Zetor19


    We won’t even be talking about this after another few weeks . Well maybe in the pub after a few pints buts that’s all .


  • #2479
    sterz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    We’ve stuck to lockdown this long, we may as well do it for the last week of it. But if it’s still not working and they extend it, we won’t bother.

    What makes you think it isn't working now? And if we've stuck to it this long, what's another week or two on top of the current deadline?


  • #2480
    splendid101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭splendid101


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    They have double our population so you would expect them to have double the deaths anyway


    It doesn't work like that due to the fact that the virus passes from person to person. Everyone that has the virus has been in contact with someone else who has the virus.


    Germany has 16 times our population and has five times the death. France has 13 times our population and has 22 times the deaths. Spain has 9 times our population and has 23 times the deaths. UK has 13 times our population and has 20 times the deaths, or 40 times if you see what are the possible true figures.


  • #2481
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Article in the Irish Independent stating that most of the new cases are in Care and Nursing homes. This is why numbers are high at the moment. I for am am absolutely fed up of this lockdown, especially as it becomes clear there is no plan coming from Government.
    What was the point of the strict lockdown? Why extend it for so long? Why threaten further restrictions when there's close to zero transmission in the community? Where on earth is the exit strategy and plan for keeping the country going while keeping those at risk safe? Threats of further restrictions to me spell we haven't a clue what do to so stay under lockdown.
    Here are a few ideas for those who are like rabbit in headlights at the moment and in charge:

    1. Open up in early May to soft lockdown, similar to what was in place prior to the stricter restrictions. Encourage social distancing, keep people informed.
    2. Communicate with businesses your plan in advance to allow them to come up with a plan. The longer this goes on the worse it gets.
    3. Introduce Covid 19 sick leave for anyone who may get the virus when restrictions are relaxed.
    4. Monitor hospitals and ICU's - keep public informed at all times so they understand if restrictions had to return.
    5. If cases don't spike and all goes ok, re-open further for end of May/June and monitor as above.

    DO NOT COME OUT IN MAY AND ANNOUNCE FURTHER RESTRICTIONS BASED ON THE CURRENT SITUATION - it is unwarranted, unjustified, and will not be accepted by people. Society will not function well in discontent.

    They extended to the 5th because of the bank holiday otherwise I say it would have only been 2. I say they do not want to give the plan 2 early has people would take that as I can stop now. I didn't take it as a threat but I can see hoe people could take it like that. If people start going crazy and the numbers shoot up we will be back here in a couple of weeks Yes I do know not giving the plan leads to people going f it and just doing what the want.

    Your 5 point plan I agree with


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  • #2482
    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Anyone reckon the barbers reopen after 5th of May?


  • #2483
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    I can only roll my eyes at this post

    So who is typing?

    BTW are you Banditluke?


  • #2484
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Zetor19 wrote: »
    We won’t even be talking about this after another few weeks . Well maybe in the pub after a few pints buts that’s all .

    You must live on a different planet.


  • #2485
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    polesheep wrote: »
    So who is typing?

    BTW are you Banditluke?


    I'm Mic 1972


  • #2486
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    They are 150 miles away, my sister travelled 40 miles to see them last friday and was stopped and interrogated 4 times. They are ok but really miss everyone, I wouldn't risk infecting them I just want to sit in their garden at a safe distance.

    I had to pass 2 guards. asked where and why. Said so I was on my way in 5 seconds very friendly. Some juniors I say might be a bit angry been told to sit at a roadblock also I say


  • #2487
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Posted this in the travel thread, but thought I’d post here too, just in case.....

    Hi all, I have a question for those who might have been following the news a little closer than me this weekend. If there has indeed been any update on this.....

    Like many many Irish, I have family split across the islands. I have a mother, and her family, in England, and a father in Ireland. I have kids in Ireland and sisters and nieces in England. I am both an Irish and British citizen.

    I am looking forward so much to being able to meet my English family again. But mandatory and enforced 14 day quarantine is being talked about now, for arrivals to both Ireland and the UK. Has anyone seen any chat this weekend (from knowledgable sources) about whether it will apply to travel within the Common Travel Area. If so, I can kiss goodbye to seeing my family in person for the foreseeable future.

    Given that arrivals into the UK from Ireland go through the domestic channel, and not through passport control, I can see Ireland not being included in the UK quarantine rules. But there is no such separation of travellers in Dublin airport


  • #2488
    Hearty80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Hearty80


    splendid101 wrote: »
    Maybe I can see the bigger picture beyond my own situation?

    Again lucky you, my business is gone. I have elderly parents who are beyond lonely. A daughter I haven't seen in almost 2 months. Her boyfriend a young doctor who works in a hospital everyday. I can definitely see the bigger picture, I have kept my end of the deal 100%. After next weekend I'm done.


  • #2489
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Jesus have to say it now, am demented.

    Less and Fewer, get it right, OK?

    Ah we are all going a bit mad, myself included.


  • #2490
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    alwald wrote: »
    Why should't they? they surely know better than the CMO/experts in this field and they believe that vitamin D is a cure :D.


    They also believe that if you have no symptoms you can't be contagious and that mild symptoms means nothing more than a flue LOL


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  • #2491
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Ah you just go a bit mad and walk to the shops and fill it up!

    I know most males won't do that, but in the last few weeks (as part of my exercise and two birds one stone), I took a backpack that has wheels on it to the supermarket for the craic. Over the shoulder on the way out, wheeled on the way back.

    Admittedly I am a bit mad. But enjoyed combining a walk with a cellar run. :P

    Well I am 2 miles from my Lidl all up hill going home and on a wheelchair so would not work for me


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