Relaxation of restrictions Part II

thebaz wrote: »

I agree, think most people up until this week , fealt the Government had done a reasonable job , but this week with the curve flattened, the 100,000 deaths not happeing and the spread well contained (apart from nursing homes) , people are coming to breaking point , and dont want more nanny state lectures from Simon and Co. about hunkering down for another 3 weeks of no fresh and the dire financial misery so many us are now enduring and facing into. Can the country realistically afford to keep near a million on social welfare indefinitly?

Many people are also realising that the tragedy enfolding in care homes is because of a lack of planning by the Government . They absolutely should have seen it coming and took their eye off the ball . They closed playground before ever looking at the tsunami heading towards care homes
This patronising lecturing about how we are doing so well but need to stay indoors for another few weeks is pissing a lot of people off now

We were told the R needed to be under 1
Now its under 1 we are still not behaving well enough and need to be kept in

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Excellent post thanks for sharing.

I did read the Belgian plans the other day and they were very impressive, every detail planned out and given to the public in advance. But given how hard Covid hit Belgium is there much anger towards the government there in terms of what they could have done differently up to now ?

But the publishing of a plan gives everyone something to aim towards

It's always hard to tell here with everything so bilingual and disjointed, but there was a lot of criticism that they were only testing people who needed to be hospitalised, so the spread wasn't properly tracked. Other than that I'm not sure but with Belgium being so centrally located for people travelling all over the place, and Brussels as "the capital of Europe" there's a grim understanding among a few people that I've talked to here that something like this was always going to hit Belgium hard unfortunately.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’m wondering about the Ring of Beara, rescheduled for August 29. I’d love it to go ahead - something to look forward to - but I don’t see it

With all the snot rockets I wouldn’t be doing it anyway.

As an electorate, we have reaped the politicians we deserved.

Frightened rabbits, terrified of a social-media backlash and in thrall of unelected bureaucrats.

This has been coming.

Over the last few decades, unpopular but correct decisions by politicians have been progressively punished by an increasingly juvenile electorate. The last election was the culmination the lurch towards populism.

Now, we're left with the likes Varadkar and Harris, like deers in the headlights, terrified to make a decision that gets them branded as murderers by the mouth-breathers on Twitter and Facebook.

And the even more scary part is the make-up of the opposition benches.

Christ, it's depressing to see this unfold.

We are flushing our children's and grandchildren's futures down the toilet.
We are losing our freedoms and civil liberties.

And the sound you hear, is the cheering of the mob.

To those people calling for lockdown to be extended. I'm not saying it's an easy decision but there are two forms of death happening right now covid-19 deaths and deaths through suicide/missed diagnostics eg breastcheck

http://news.sky.com/story/ccoronavirus-cancer-patients-helpless-amid-fears-more-will-die-from-delayed-treatment-than-covid-19-11978615

ZX7R wrote: »

France are promoting camping holidays as soon as August for foreign tourism
They are also pushing for people to home holiday.
Spain are already planning on opening there tourism from July Spanish tourism board aiming at the younger age profile

Would I go no
But if I was 24 year's old cheap flights cheap lodging I be gone in a bat of an eye

So true man, if I was a young lad. I'd be gone in a heartbeat.

Maybe need to look at Portugal. NEXT to Spain but they seem not to have have the same awful stats as Spain.

jams100 wrote:

To those people calling for lockdown to be extended. I'm not saying it's an easy decision but there are two forms of death happening right now covid-19 deaths and deaths through suicide/missed diagnostics eg breastcheck

You realise the more the lockdown is eased, the more cases we'll get so those illnesses above still won't be catered for.

road_high wrote: »

No evidence re that assertion. With social
distancing measures and hygiene there’s absolutely no need to not ease the lockdown

Common sense says the more people asymptomatic carriers are in contact with, the more cases we have and thus more cases having go into hospitals. If someone is only around 2 people now and is around 20 after we ease, that's obviously a lot more with it.

That would thus put a higher load on hospitals which will then mean those with other illnesses are less likely to get the treatment they need.