Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

the.red.baron · 23-04-2020 07:03PM

joe_99 wrote: »

This is my next hope.... ivermectin. Seems like a wonder drug.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/ivermectin-emerges-as-possible-treatment-option-for-covid-19-1.4228500%3Fmode%3Damp&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiigP6rkP_oAhViWhUIHej5CoAQqOcBMAB6BAgAEAI&usg=AOvVaw3tMDetUs4yuJr-6arTITDx

i'll sell me Gilead stocks so and buy these

joe_99 · 23-04-2020 07:03PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

It doesn't really matter... more cases will produce more deaths, pretty much a statistical certainty!

But cases being identified won't

Away With The Fairies · 23-04-2020 07:05PM

joe_99 wrote: »

This is my next hope.... ivermectin. Seems like a wonder drug.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/ivermectin-emerges-as-possible-treatment-option-for-covid-19-1.4228500%3Fmode%3Damp&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiigP6rkP_oAhViWhUIHej5CoAQqOcBMAB6BAgAEAI&usg=AOvVaw3tMDetUs4yuJr-6arTITDx

Something has to work for us

owlbethere · 23-04-2020 07:06PM

joe_99 wrote: »

This is my next hope.... ivermectin. Seems like a wonder drug.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/ivermectin-emerges-as-possible-treatment-option-for-covid-19-1.4228500%3Fmode%3Damp&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiigP6rkP_oAhViWhUIHej5CoAQqOcBMAB6BAgAEAI&usg=AOvVaw3tMDetUs4yuJr-6arTITDx

Hopefully this Ivermectin works.

frillyleaf · 23-04-2020 07:07PM

Arghus wrote: »

I suspect there will be a change of tone over the next couple of days from the goverment and the HSE.

First it was - Jesus Christ, we have to get it under control.

People thought, jesus, I don't want to get this and be seriously ill or my parents/grandparents to die. Fck it, there's no way I'm taking chances.

Then it was - Don't be downhearted, things are bad, but they could be worse and they could have been a lot worse, we've got this, but just be careful.

People have just heard "we've got this" and have missed the wider point that this is basically on a knife edge now and people are slacking off.

They need to emphasise that the situation is still deadly serious. Okay it's great that the R0 rate has fallen, but people are just hearing this and "May 5th". They need to re-frame how they get their message across.

if people are visibly relaxed they will be even more relaxed calling into people’s homes etc.

Maybe HSE feels we are over the worst of it and that what we have done is suffice. I can’t see any other reason why things have become so relaxed compared to two weeks ago. Maybe this is welcome news and they will lift restrictions before 5th May. Sometimes it can be better to give a date further away so people are happier when when things happen ‘earlier’.

That’s the only reason I can think. There is far more traffic etc. Two weeks ago it was nearly apocalyptic walking to the shops were as now it’s quite busy

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 23-04-2020 07:07PM

joe_99 wrote: »

But cases being identified won't

Why won't they?

More confirmed cases = more deaths.

You can see the rise in our average daily deaths over the last 2-3 weeks, from the corresponding rise in cases. (Like I said, over 7,000 just in the last 10 days alone!)

Kermit.de.frog · 23-04-2020 07:09PM

In the USA current death total is 48,868. Seems like every chance of breaking 50,000 before the end of the day. 1,209 deaths so far recorded today.

Arghus · 23-04-2020 07:09PM

the.red.baron wrote: »

other countries are already starting the process

I guess we'll have to see how it works out then won't we?

Hopefully all will be well. At this point no one knows for sure.

We might start the process ourselves in a fortnight's time, but that's no guarantee that it will work or that we won't see restrictions again imposed depending on how the virus behaves.

If infections spike again and deaths spike again, which is entirely possible, you can bet with 100% certainty that restrictions will be reimposed again.

Gael23 · 23-04-2020 07:10PM

A large portion of these cases and deaths are in residential care settings. Unfortunately the cases in Nursing homes will lead to a high percentage of deaths

Iamabeliever · 23-04-2020 07:11PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Why won't they?

More confirmed cases = more deaths.

You can see the rise in our average daily deaths over the last 2-3 weeks, from the corresponding rise in cases. (Like I said, over 7,000 just in the last 10 days alone!)

More cases = more deaths

is_that_so · 23-04-2020 07:14PM

owlbethere wrote: »

That's disappointing. I was hoping there would be success with that.

But normal in this area. Lots of them will fail.

Kermit.de.frog · 23-04-2020 07:15PM

Trump will be in his element tonight now that Obama is calling him a jack ass

https://twitter.com/funder/status/1253061187744468994

joe_99 · 23-04-2020 07:16PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Why won't they?

More confirmed cases = more deaths.

You can see the rise in our average daily deaths over the last 2-3 weeks, from the corresponding rise in cases. (Like I said, over 7,000 just in the last 10 days alone!)

Let's make it simple.

100 people are infected in a country. 10 people die.

If we identified 50 of those cases. 10 people die.

If we identified no cases. 10 people die.

Identifying cases does not increase deaths. The rationale is that if we identify more we can stop the spread so that less people are infected.

Azatadine · 23-04-2020 07:16PM

Very disappointing news about Remdesivir. Had high hopes for that.

Cheerful Spring2 · 23-04-2020 07:18PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In the USA current death total is 48,868. Seems like every chance of breaking 50,000 before the end of the day. 1,209 deaths so far recorded today.

58,000 US soldiers died during the Vietnam war, started in 1965- ended 1975.

Near 49,000 deaths only a couple of months?

Beasty · 23-04-2020 07:18PM

Iamabeliever wrote: »

More cases = more deaths

Yes, but we are still missing all those who died of this without having been tested from the "official" figures

The fact we are testing more in nursing homes can be expected to increase the "official" number

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 23-04-2020 07:18PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In the USA current death total is 48,868. Seems like every chance of breaking 50,000 before the end of the day. 1,209 deaths so far recorded today.

Still pretty low deaths, considering the huge amount of cases they have...

They have more than 4.5 times Italy's number of confirmed cases, but less than double their deaths.

They're a huge country, that gets probably more movement and international travel over their borders than most nations. They seem to be doing reasonably okay right now, all things considered.

timsey tiger · 23-04-2020 07:20PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I don't think you know what community transmission is.

Community transmission is the euphemism they use for we haven't a f**king clue where you caught the virus.

JP Liz V1 · 23-04-2020 07:21PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

That was very sad on the news just there

RIP to that man

What was that?

is_that_so · 23-04-2020 07:21PM

Beasty wrote: »

Yes, but we are still missing all those who died of this without having been tested from the "official" figures

The fact we are testing more in nursing homes can be expected to increase the "official" number

There's also that NH census, which is coming, going back to January.

wakka12 · 23-04-2020 07:22PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Still pretty low deaths, considering the huge amount of cases they have...

They have more than 4.5 times Italy's number of confirmed cases, but less than double their deaths.

They're a huge country, that gets probably more movement and international travel over their borders than most nations. They seem to be doing reasonably okay right now, all things considered.

Yes, makes it seem like USA is doing very badly but the death rate is better than most European countries. The total number of deaths looks alarming because USA is such a large country. Other large countries with widespread outbreaks such as Indonesia and Brazil are also just not reporting deaths anywhere near accurately

owlbethere · 23-04-2020 07:23PM

timsey tiger wrote: »

Community transmission is the euphemism they use for we haven't a f**king clue where you caught the virus.

Are people picking up the disease from their whoring cats? Or dogs?

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 23-04-2020 07:24PM

joe_99 wrote: »

Let's make it simple.

100 people are infected in a country. 10 people die.

If we identified 50 of those cases. 10 people die.

If we identified no cases. 10 people die.

Identifying cases does not increase deaths. The rationale is that if we identify more we can stop the spread so that less people are infected.

Oh I agree. In theory we can reduce the spread, if done correctly.

But more cases will produce more deaths. So confirming them will confirm that we should expect more corresponding deaths to follow as a result - which we can see over the last few weeks.

Reckless Abandonment · 23-04-2020 07:24PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In the USA current death total is 48,868. Seems like every chance of breaking 50,000 before the end of the day. 1,209 deaths so far recorded today.

Last Sunday the US media predicted 61k deaths by August. They'll hit that by the end of the month

BanditLuke · 23-04-2020 07:24PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Something has to work for us

Or maybe nothing will. Maybe this is the disease X that can't be stopped .

It's entirely possible no drug will work or no vaccine will be created successfully.

That's the nightmare scenario I don't want to think about.

I think our best hope is this virus decides to mutate to something much more manageable and we can go about our lives again.

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-04-2020 07:24PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What was that?

An interview with the mother of a 50 year old man with Down syndrome who died

Saddest thing I have seen over the last few weeks

Akrasia · 23-04-2020 07:27PM

joe_99 wrote: »

Let's make it simple.

100 people are infected in a country. 10 people die.

If we identified 50 of those cases. 10 people die.

If we identified no cases. 10 people die.

Identifying cases does not increase deaths. The rationale is that if we identify more we can stop the spread so that less people are infected.

Something very Underpants Gnomey about this post

Identifying the infected is not the cause of fewer deaths, its enforcing quarantine on those infected people that will reduce future deaths.

You can either lock everyone down indefinitely, or bring community spread down to a manageable level and then slowly lift restrictions while rigorously contact tracing everyone who tests positive

JP Liz V1 · 23-04-2020 07:27PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

An interview with the mother of a 50 year old man with Down syndrome who died

Saddest thing I have seen over the last few weeks

RIP

Was he in a residential care centre?

Refractions · 23-04-2020 07:28PM

Mass testing going on now folks. My wife has been redeployed to testing and the workload is going to be intense for the foreseeable. Be prepared to see crazy jumps in cases day to day.

23-04-2020 07:29PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Our death rate is increasing rapidly of late... I can't see this changing with so many people now ignoring the rules. Not looking too good.

77 43 39 28. Convenient?

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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