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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #2972
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    What's the general consensus on the position that community growth is zero or close to it?

    What are they basing this position on? Low admissions? High testing rates?

    I’m not entirely sold on this, they haven’t really given justification for this statement, just kind of saying the metrics are doing well...


  • #2973
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Nursing homes are closed environments so we should be able to address them.

    Lack of community transmission is a massive positive. Well done to all.


  • #2974
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I think you should pick up the phone and stop venting on the internet!

    Nicely deflected.


  • #2975
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Guards were never enforcing the restrictions anywya. Few checkpoints so they could show they were doing something but they've done **** all. Fines should have been handed out. The visibility stuff was just PR ****e.


  • #2976
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    https://twitter.com/AndyBiotech/status/1253355549355380739

    Fascinating from New York. If true it means 2.7m cases in New York State alone.

    Looking forward to seeing more of these antibody tests over the next few weeks because if the ones to date are accurate they will have a massive impact on the response to the epidemic.


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  • #2977
    paddythere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    Arghus wrote: »
    To be honest, I've seen very little Garda presence since the start of this lockdown period.

    I don't know if there's been much change there in how they do they do their job.

    People have just relaxed and now the idea of "May 5th" is in people's heads. Ah sure, it'll be grand.

    At times I think we are a very stupid nation.

    From my experience (in Dublin) they were out and about a lot the first week (roughly March 27th-April 3) but since that they seem to have gone back to normal and are hoping people just comply which is just not gonna work in reality. They need to be out in force to provide some kind of deterrence in my opinion


  • #2978
    ACitizenErased
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Guards were never enforcing the restrictions anywya. Few checkpoints so they could show they were doing something but they've done **** all. Fines should have been handed out. The visibility stuff was just PR ****e.
    Disagree. I live on the outskirts of Cork City and Gardai were actively moving people on and issuing warnings. Number of businesses who tried to re-open were closed, including famous 'KCs' chipper in Douglas which was closed last week.


  • #2979
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I didn't catch all the news, over 900 new cases. Did they say where these cases are from? I know they are testing nursing homes but people shouldn't be thinking "ah it's just in the nursing homes".

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1253364294022037504

    So, 549 cases in the general community.


  • #2980
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1253364294022037504

    So, 549 cases in the general community.

    Sorry but if over 50% of the new confirmed cases are community transmission I’m calling bull on the claims that we have 0 community transmission today.


  • #2981
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    rm212 wrote: »
    Sorry but if over 50% of the new confirmed cases are community transmission I’m calling bull on the claims that we have 0 community transmission today.
    I don't think you know what community transmission is.


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  • #2982
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    wakka12 wrote: »
    But as you see now in recent weeks COVID has resulted in a 50% increase in the daily national mortality rates in the country. If it was here months ago, it would be very obvious

    No.
    Last 5 years average is 82 people a day, 2666 a month and 32000 a year.
    Current covid related deaths are nowhere near these numbers and by a miles away from 50% increase you mention.


  • #2983
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    I'm not sure that 25 minutes of number crunching that we've had so far in today's press conference is going to do anything to encourage people to be more alert.
    Even if all those new 936 cases today are in the care home environment, infected staff going back to their families poses a big rick given how relaxed some people have got in the last few days.


  • #2984
    titan18
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Disagree. I live on the outskirts of Cork City and Gardai were actively moving people on and issuing warnings. Number of businesses who tried to re-open were closed, including famous 'KCs' chipper in Douglas which was closed last week.

    I live close to The Lough and they were doing **** all. Go for a nightly walk and the amount of groups the whole month has been stupid.

    Warnings and people being asked to move on will do nothing.


  • #2985
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Another huge increase, I really hope they are not testing only nursing homes at this point
    People are not following restrictions, some idiots even complimenting those who disregards the rules, we are walking into another peak

    Our death rate is increasing rapidly of late... I can't see this changing with so many people now ignoring the rules. Not looking too good.


  • #2986
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Does anyone know why we haven't had a mass media campaign to stay at home? If you watch any sort of British TV or radio station there's messages every 15 minutes telling people to stay at home. People unfortunately need constant reminders.


  • #2987
    stephenjmcd
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I didn't catch all the news, over 900 new cases. Did they say where these cases are from? I know they are testing nursing homes but people shouldn't be thinking "ah it's just in the nursing homes".

    Yes, large amount due to nursing homes they've said.


  • #2988
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1253364294022037504

    So, 549 cases in the general community.

    That's not good.


  • #2989
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1253228637224132608


  • #2990
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Another huge increase, I really hope they are not testing only nursing homes at this point
    People are not following restrictions, some idiots even complimenting those who disregards the rules, we are walking into another peak

    Facebook post of a friend yesterday saying no new cases recorded in Galway and was very proud of all our hard work...

    All the while they open supermacs and let the whole thing get out of hand again.


  • #2991
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I don't think you know what community transmission is.

    So, what, you think that the non-nursing home cases are all imported then?


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  • #2992
    wakka12
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    patnor1011 wrote: »
    No.
    Last 5 years average is 82 people a day, 2666 a month and 32000 a year.
    Current covid related deaths are nowhere near these numbers and by a miles away from 50% increase you mention.

    The last 11 days in a row have been around a 40-50% increase on that national mortality rate of 82 or so deaths per day, most other days during the weeks before that have been in the region of 20-30% increase


  • #2993
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Just catching the end of this briefing now. Holy fcuk. Over 900 new cases. What did they say about the new cases?

    Any community transmissions?


  • #2994
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Facebook post of a friend yesterday saying no new cases recorded in Galway and was very proud of all our hard work...

    All the while they open supermacs and let the whole thing get out of hand again.

    Again? When did it get out of hand originally?


  • #2995
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Facebook post of a friend yesterday saying no new cases recorded in Galway and was very proud of all our hard work...

    All the while they open supermacs and let the whole thing get out of hand again.

    How are they letting it out agian? Take aways have been open the whole time so dont see what difference opening up a supermacs does


  • #2996
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,772 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Julianna Gorgeous Hydrant wrote: »
    No chance they will keep them until June. 2km will be lifted May 5th.

    The 2km thing isn't the issue. A lot of the people gathering stupidly are doing so within the 2km radius.

    The better restriction to lift would be for certain sectors of the economy where they can carry out the work while maintaining distancing.


  • #2997
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    rm212 wrote: »
    So, what, you think that the non-nursing home cases are all imported then?
    Community tranmission are cases which cannot be linked to any other cases, IE they are untrackable. Community transmission cases have been virtually zero in the past week or two. Community tranmission =/= cases in the community (community = everything outside of residential settings).


  • #2998
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Yes, large amount due to nursing homes they've said.

    More than half are not in nursing homes. Large community spread.


  • #2999
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Just catching the end of this briefing now. Holy fcuk. Over 900 new cases. What did they say about the new cases?

    Any community transmissions?

    549 community cases, 387 nursing home cases


  • #3000
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Good question from that journalist there. I had that on my mind - like what are the Irish docs treating this seeing?


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  • #3001
    patnor1011
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    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Have you scientific proof it was here in December?

    And my cousins friends mother couldn't shake off a bad cough doesn't count.

    To be honest, people like you are starting to look foolish and not fully understanding the science and exponential spread of covid19.

    Had it been here in December, without restrictions and with events such as Christmas which are notorious for spreading viruses, we would by 1st March be looking at cases in the tens if not hundreds of thousands.

    So far after two months of testing we've come up with 16,000 cases.

    So yeh over to you, proof rather than speculation please.

    Well for starters a lot of deaths and lifetime damage attributed to strange "vaping disease" in the US and mainly lungs images looked eerily the same like covid lung pictures.

    While people cant "prove" to you that this virus came earlier you cant "prove" it only started in dec/jan so most of what we discuss here is just speculation. Are you saying that nobody came here from China in dec/jan or nobody was in direct contact with anyone from there?
    Even things you think that are facts may not be that.


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