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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #3062
    Just Saying
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1253364294022037504

    So, 549 cases in the general community.


    I'm not sure of the exact number of the increased cases in healthcare workers but these would be included in the 549 as even though they might have been tested in a nursing home they are not nursing home residents.


  • #3063
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Julianna Gorgeous Hydrant wrote: »
    Ah here, you think we can do this until August? Come off it!

    We surely won't be able to cope with a rise in cases if people end up in the ICU. More people infected, more hospital cases.

    We should all be wearing face masks now and when they lift restrictions.


  • #3064
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,617 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    Community transmission is when cases occur in a locality, but there's no attributable cause. Close contacts involve transmission between friends, family members or between worker and patient, so community cases involve a mixture of both kinds.

    So 549 cases are outside of nursing homes, surely this would indicate that community transmission is not at zero- we are in fact seeing a spread in the community, but at a very low reproduction level?


  • #3065
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Strumms wrote: »
    That being true that’s in the region of 30 cases an hour so far, ballpark 1 new case diagnosed every 2 minutes, sure be grand, open everything..

    Most of those cases happened weeks ago. We went through a huge backlog of cases weeks old in the last 10 days.

    Do people listen to the press conferences at all??


  • #3066
    [Deleted User]
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    ek motor wrote: »
    From Worldometers:


    New York State Governor Cuomo said that preliminary findings from an antibody study conducted on 3,000 people in New York State found a 13.9% actual infection rate statewide (and 21.2% in New York City), which translates to an estimate of about 2,700,000 actual cases in New York State (10 times more than the about 270,000 cases that have been detected and reported officially). Governor Cuomo acknowledged that the official count reported by New York State (which still is not including probable deaths as recommended by the new CDC guidelines) of about 15,500 deaths is "not accurate" as it doesn't account for stay at home deaths. Based on Worldometer's count (which includes probable deaths reported by New York City) of about 21,000 deaths and the 2,700,000 case estimate from the new antibody study, the actual case fatality rate in New York State could be at around 0.78%

    Are they random tests. Or people volunteering.


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  • #3067
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    nacho libre wrote: »
    So 549 cases are outside of nursing homes, surely this would indicate that community transmission is not at zero- we are in fact seeing a spread in the community, but at a very low reproduction level?

    As soon as one family member gets it they all do I presume that’s the kind of community transmission that’s occurring rather than people coughing on each other in supermarkets and transmitting it that way

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #3068
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Most of those cases happened weeks ago. We went through a huge backlog of cases weeks old in the last 10 days.

    Do people listen to the press conferences at all??

    People do take in details these days.


  • #3069
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,826 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Most of those cases happened weeks ago. We went through a huge backlog of cases weeks old in the last 10 days.

    Do people listen to the press conferences at all??


    They HAPPENED, more are happening the statistics are still very relevant to the discussion.


  • #3070
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    George Lee on reproduction rates on 6.1 News. "As it's now below 1 you are unlikely to infect a full person". What sort of shíte is that? It's like saying you might make someone "a bit pregnant"


  • #3071
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Gynoid wrote: »
    This is the way I see things going.
    Soon, many of us who have restricted our movements will be told to come on out.
    Imagine coaxing a cat down from a tree.
    "Come on, come on, comme onnn, pishwishwishwish," they will say. "That's it. Out you come. All is well."
    Out we will come blinking into the world, a little nervous about whether it is safe or not. But still, there we will be.
    "Stay," they will say. "Stay now. That's it. You're fine. Just stay there. Good lad/good lassie."
    Then, just like now in Spain and Singapore and Japan the numbers will start going up and we will be a bit uncertain. But "Stay," they will say. "That's it. Staaaay. Good boy. Good girl. Don't worry."
    And then the numbers will come to a certain point and they will say, very loudly " GET BACK! GET BACK IN YOUR HOUSES! GO HOME. RETREAT. GET BAAACK!"
    And we will scurry back home and close the doors and wait while the curve tries to flatten, grateful that we are still in one piece. If we are.
    Until a few weeks later they will start saying, "Come on. Commme oonnnn. Pishwishwishwish. There's a good girl/there's a good boy. It's safe. Don't worry. Out you come..."

    Repeat for an unknown length of time. Great.

    Very funny.:) But in all probability this is precisely what the official policy will be for the foreseeable future.


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  • #3072
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    That was very sad on the news just there

    RIP to that man


  • #3073
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    nacho libre wrote: »
    So 549 cases are outside of nursing homes, surely this would indicate that community transmission is not at zero- we are in fact seeing a spread in the community, but at a very low reproduction level?

    Those 549 must be identified as family, friends, work transmissions. Not community transmission like passing someone in the park who spreads it.


  • #3074
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    That was very sad on the news just there

    RIP to that man

    Absolutely heartbreaking to here the true cost of this horrible thing.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • #3075
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,617 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    As soon as one family member gets it they all do I presume that’s the kind of community transmission that’s occurring rather than people coughing on each other in supermarkets and transmitting it that way

    Are the majority of the 549 cases down to frontline workers infecting their families, friends or colleagues, though. I'm not convinced there isn't some community transmission going on based on what i've observed, there seems to be restriction fatigue setting in amongst people. I think some people are starting to think this is only a nursing home problem.

    I suppose we'll only really be tell in a couple of weeks if we see another increase in cases.


  • #3076
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Gilead drug trial shows disappointing results
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-pares-some-gains-after-report-says-gileads-remesivir-shows-disappointing-results-2020-04-23

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #3077
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Julianna Gorgeous Hydrant wrote: »
    Ah here, you think we can do this until August? Come off it!

    Do you think that story about the new flu in China is real? Come off it!

    Do you think it'll spread? Come off it!

    Do you think it'll come to Ireland? Come off it!

    Ah, d'ya think it'll be a big deal? Come off it!

    Ah, they'd hardly close the pubs for Paddy's day - people wouldn't accept it! Come off it!

    Ah, it won't go on for that long. Two weeks max. We'll be still doing this in May? Come off it!

    Sure businesses can't stay shut for an indefinite period of time, sure how will they survive? Come off it!

    And so on

    And so on.

    Every step of the way things we didn't think were possible have become reality and some people still don't recognise that anything is possible. We absolutely could still be living like this is August


  • #3078
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Seamai wrote: »
    George Lee on reproduction rates on 6.1 News. "As it's now below 1 you are unlikely to infect a full person". What sort of shíte is that? It's like saying you might make someone "a bit pregnant"

    But if I have it and cough on someone, I've just infected one whole person.

    Ah here, it's any wonder people are getting bored with the restrictions.


  • #3079
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Strumms wrote: »
    They HAPPENED, more are happening the statistics are still very relevant to the discussion.

    But you can't then use them to calculate a nonsense per minute infection as you need a time limiting factor to do that.


  • #3080
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Arghus wrote: »
    Do you think that story about the new flu in China is real? Come off it!

    Do you think it'll spread? Come off it!

    Do you think it'll come to Ireland? Come off it!

    Ah, d'ya think it'll be a big deal? Come off it!

    Ah, they'd hardly close the pubs for Paddy's day - people wouldn't accept it! Come off it!

    Ah, it won't go on for that long. Two weeks max. We'll be still doing this in May? Come off it!

    Sure businesses can't stay shut for an indefinite period of time, sure how will they survive? Come off it!

    And so on

    And so on.

    Every step of the way things we didn't think were possible have become reality and some people still don't recognise that anything is possible. We absolutely could still be living like this is August

    NOT. A. HOPE.


  • #3081
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,826 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    joe_99 wrote: »
    But you can't then use them to calculate a nonsense per minute infection as you need a time limiting factor to do that.

    Read what I posted again, I posted very deliberately ‘in the region of’. What we are discussing and what I posted is as far away from nonsense as you can get.


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  • #3082
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    But if I have it and cough on someone, I've just infected one whole person.

    Ah here, it's any wonder people are getting bored with the restrictions.
    If you take 20 people, 10 will infect nobody and 10 will infect 5, Nolan's explanation.


  • #3083
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    Gilead drug trial shows disappointing results
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-pares-some-gains-after-report-says-gileads-remesivir-shows-disappointing-results-2020-04-23

    That's disappointing. I was hoping there would be success with that.


  • #3084
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Most of those cases happened weeks ago. We went through a huge backlog of cases weeks old in the last 10 days.

    Do people listen to the press conferences at all??

    It doesn't really matter... more cases will produce more deaths, pretty much a statistical certainty!


  • #3085
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    But if I have it and cough on someone, I've just infected one whole person.

    Ah here, it's any wonder people are getting bored with the restrictions.

    Or maybe you could infect all of a small person.


  • #3086
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Seamai wrote: »
    George Lee on reproduction rates on 6.1 News. "As it's now below 1 you are unlikely to infect a full person". What sort of shíte is that? It's like saying you might make someone "a bit pregnant"

    I'm sorry but I laughed

    The pitying looks Tony H gives him as he tries to work out numbers aloud and the death rays he gets from Colin Henry also make me laugh


  • #3087
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Julianna Gorgeous Hydrant wrote: »
    NOT. A. HOPE.

    I hope you are right mate.


  • #3088
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Does anyone know why we haven't had a mass media campaign to stay at home? If you watch any sort of British TV or radio station there's messages every 15 minutes telling people to stay at home. People unfortunately need constant reminders.

    It is bizarre. Maybe they are going to lift the restrictions early and are happy with how we are doing. It doesn’t look like any form of ‘lockdown’ where I am


  • #3089
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    Gilead drug trial shows disappointing results
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-pares-some-gains-after-report-says-gileads-remesivir-shows-disappointing-results-2020-04-23
    This is my next hope.... ivermectin. Seems like a wonder drug.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/ivermectin-emerges-as-possible-treatment-option-for-covid-19-1.4228500%3Fmode%3Damp&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiigP6rkP_oAhViWhUIHej5CoAQqOcBMAB6BAgAEAI&usg=AOvVaw3tMDetUs4yuJr-6arTITDx


  • #3090
    the.red.baron
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    Arghus wrote: »
    I hope you are right mate.




    other countries are already starting the process


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  • #3091
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    Marty Bird wrote: »
    Absolutely heartbreaking to here the true cost of this horrible thing.

    I didn't catch the news, what was it?


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