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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #3032
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,187 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Yes but in the middle of a global pandemic which is at its peak in Europe. 7000 cases is actually very low in such a scenario.

    The phase under restrictions could be at its peak but, eh, good luck trying to keep it that way if/when restrictions are lifted!

    Particularly heading in to next Autumn/Winter.


  • #3033
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,196 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    the.red.baron wrote: »
    where are you? they have no other duties to do so have been out patrolling


    This is just after work, people have to go outside, it's not illegal


    they were out on the grand canal


    unheard of


    on foot and in the car

    In Galway City. I've seen very few Guards. Plenty of people out walking, stopping to chat, kicking balls around. Not just after work either, throughout the day.

    There's a clear difference in the last couple of days of the numbers of people out and about and you can visibly see that people aren't taking the guidelines as seriously as they once were.


  • #3034
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    Julianna Gorgeous Hydrant wrote: »
    How have family cases not stopped - technically they should have been ceased from mid-April at the latest as we have been locked down.

    Exactly! Family cases should not still be occurring by now unless there is NEW community spread into previously uninfected households.


  • #3035
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    I can`t access the briefing at present. Has a breakdown been given of where the deaths occurred? As in what regions of the country?

    http://geohive.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/a192b58ba6904c1494f651706c223520


  • #3036
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1253364294022037504

    So, 549 cases in the general community.

    Thanks for this. So more cases in the community with the latest update. I really hope people don't think it's just old people and nursing homes.


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  • #3037
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Strazdas wrote: »
    There's 16,000 cases out there in total since March and yet only a few hundred new people a day are testing as positive (in the middle of a pandemic) : that would suggest very low transmission in the community

    They're also not testing everyone with symptoms. That would suggest there's actually more in the community.


  • #3038
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,196 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    People are spreading false information here. Community cases is NOT the same as community tranmission. Community cases are cases outside nursing homes/residential settings. They include close contacts.

    I'm sorry but can someone please explain the difference in community transmission and community cases to me as dummy here is confused
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  • #3039
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,187 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Gone really lax in my part of County Dublin last couple of days. Lot more out and about and quite a few shops not being as strict anymore.

    We'll see what happens in the next two weeks but Holohan says, as of today, restrictions can't be lifted on the 5th of May and that's the gamble some people are taking.


  • #3040
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,196 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    28 death RIP

    936 new cases
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  • #3041
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,617 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Community cases are cases outside nursing homes/residential settings. They include close contacts.

    So are you saying these 549 cases are mainly due to infected frontline workers going home to their families?


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  • #3042
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Based on New York's antibody testing results today (14% positive for antibodies), if we followed the same path it would mean up to 700,000 cases here, with the vast majority asymptomatic.

    The results depend on what population you survey.

    This was not a representative sampling. "The tests came from people in grocery and big box stores. Cuomo said this was important because it came from people who were out — not people isolating at home."

    To extrapolate from an 'exposed' group of workers to the general population is certainly not valid.

    All we can really say about the whole population from this survey is that it is probably far less than 14%.


  • #3043
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Gone really lax in my part of County Dublin last couple of days. Lot more out and about and quite a few shops not being as strict anymore.

    We'll see what happens in the next two weeks but Holohan says, as of today, restrictions can't be lifted on the 5th of May and that's the gamble some people are taking.

    People being wary around where I am. Avoiding by 2 metres etc.


  • #3044
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    lbj666 wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks we are getting a notable easing of restrictions in May 5th need to see Phillip Nolans graph modelling based on R0s if restrictions were lifted. If the R0 goes back up to 1.5 or so, under current case definitions new cases we would be back up to 1000 a day within a week or two. If the R0 jumps to 2.4 new cases fly off the chart.

    Lifting of restrictions sounds difficult to do. Surely cases would rise if you lift them in May, or June or July.


  • #3045
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    nacho libre wrote: »
    So are you saying these 549 cases are mainly due to infected frontline workers going home to their families?

    Listen to the press conferences. Tony Holohan said community transmission is zero. Focus on care homes now.


  • #3046
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I'm sorry but can someone please explain the difference in community transmission and community cases to me as dummy here is confused

    Semantics.

    The latest figures show community spread. More than half of the confirmed cases.


  • #3047
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I'm sorry but can someone please explain the difference in community transmission and community cases to me as dummy here is confused

    Community transmission is when cases occur in a locality, but there's no attributable cause. Close contacts involve transmission between friends, family members or between worker and patient, so community cases involve a mixture of both kinds.


  • #3048
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    COVID toe:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oOHAahGBBA


  • #3049
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Lifting of restrictions sounds difficult to do. Surely cases would rise if you lift them in May, or June or July.

    Ah here, you think we can do this until August? Come off it!


  • #3050
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Colm said that they are testing asymptomatic people in nursing homes so those who don't show symptoms.

    Are there any results from them tests? How many negative/positive?


  • #3051
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,196 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    GolfNut33 wrote: »
    These numbers are to be expected as the testing has been ramped up. Just goes to show the amount of people with the desease, a few weeks ago, must have been huge but just went untested.

    I think they should test everyone, symptoms or not
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  • #3052
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Just 28 new fatalities, that’s a good result

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #3053
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,826 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    We've added more than 7,000 cases in the last 10 days alone!

    That being true that’s in the region of 30 cases an hour so far, ballpark 1 new case diagnosed every 2 minutes, sure be grand, open everything..


  • #3054
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Listen to the press conferences. Tony Holohan said community transmission is zero. Focus on care homes now.

    He also confirmed that 549 cases are not in care homes, you should read back on the posts.


  • #3055
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Lifting of restrictions sounds difficult to do. Surely cases would rise if you lift them in May, or June or July.

    They would/will. No doubt about it.


  • #3056
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I'm sorry but can someone please explain the difference in community transmission and community cases to me as dummy here is confused

    Community transmission is where for example you catch the virus and you don't know how.
    Community case is where you catch the virus from a know outbreak.
    Example
    Work
    Orphanage
    Hospital
    Prison
    Special needs home
    ECT


  • #3057
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    If we could ascertain whether a strain came from Cheltenham we would know who brought it back with them from that junket

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #3058
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,196 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I suspect there will be a change of tone over the next couple of days from the goverment and the HSE.

    First it was - Jesus Christ, we have to get it under control.

    People thought, jesus, I don't want to get this and be seriously ill or my parents/grandparents to die. Fck it, there's no way I'm taking chances.

    Then it was - Don't be downhearted, things are bad, but they could be worse and they could have been a lot worse, we've got this, but just be careful.

    People have just heard "we've got this" and have missed the wider point that this is basically on a knife edge now and people are slacking off.

    They need to emphasise that the situation is still deadly serious. Okay it's great that the R0 rate has fallen, but people are just hearing this and "May 5th". They need to re-frame how they get their message across.


  • #3059
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1253228637224132608

    This also shows why the idea that the virus has been around since December is less probable.


  • #3060
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    This is the way I see things going.
    Soon, many of us who have restricted our movements will be told to come on out.
    Imagine coaxing a cat down from a tree.
    "Come on, come on, comme onnn, pishwishwishwish," they will say. "That's it. Out you come. All is well."
    Out we will come blinking into the world, a little nervous about whether it is safe or not. But still, there we will be.
    "Stay," they will say. "Stay now. That's it. You're fine. Just stay there. Good lad/good lassie."
    Then, just like now in Spain and Singapore and Japan the numbers will start going up and we will be a bit uncertain. But "Stay," they will say. "That's it. Staaaay. Good boy. Good girl. Don't worry."
    And then the numbers will come to a certain point and they will say, very loudly " GET BACK! GET BACK IN YOUR HOUSES! GO HOME. RETREAT. GET BAAACK!"
    And we will scurry back home and close the doors and wait while the curve tries to flatten, grateful that we are still in one piece. If we are.
    Until a few weeks later they will start saying, "Come on. Commme oonnnn. Pishwishwishwish. There's a good girl/there's a good boy. It's safe. Don't worry. Out you come..."

    Repeat for an unknown length of time. Great.


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  • #3061
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    Just 28 new fatalities, that’s a good result

    28 notified new fatalities. As we saw the other day that doesn`t mean that is the actual total of new daily deaths.


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