Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

Drumpot wrote: »

But I honestly dont believe for a second that WHO or any other medical authority really believed the mask not helpful statement. If there was billions of masks for everybody, we would all of been wearing them since March.

Yes. It's painful listening to the "we should all be wearing masks!" crowd go on as if they've discovered some brilliant breakthrough. We know that masks, worn properly, would reduce spread. But advising the public to wear them is not so simple, and the worry about taking PPE away from healthcare workers is number one on the list of things to be concerned about.

hmmm wrote: »

Yes. It's painful listening to the "we should all be wearing masks!" crowd go on as if they've discovered some brilliant breakthrough. We know that masks, worn properly, would reduce spread. But advising the public to wear them is not so simple, and the worry about taking PPE away from healthcare workers is number one on the list of things to be concerned about.

Harder to keep 2 or 4.5meters away from your patient and try and save their life, than for the rest of us to social distance if not enough PPE. And to keep the medical professionals healthy and alive for the next and the next patient.

hmmm wrote: »

Yes. It's painful listening to the "we should all be wearing masks!" crowd go on as if they've discovered some brilliant breakthrough. We know that masks, worn properly, would reduce spread. But advising the public to wear them is not so simple, and the worry about taking PPE away from healthcare workers is number one on the list of things to be concerned about.

The PPE we got delivered recently was transported by Army Trucks to the HSE.

How could Joe public affect that? This "affecting the demand" argument simply doesn't add up. Virtually every country in the world with the exception of Ireand, UK and maybe Sweden are either recommending they be worn or ordering it. The worldwide demand from populations is already there. Ireland's 5m people are not going to make any difference and Chinese suppliers will always service the 20 million units order from the health service before they send me a pack of 10.

is_that_so wrote: »

Now autumn if you click on the link!

Due to Electric Picnic I would say

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They'll ban them until start of August at the earliest.

Definition of mass gathering expected to be 5k

I reckon by July a whole lot of this will have been unwound.

Summer2020 wrote: »

I admire your optimism

Watch what other EU countries do. Every two weeks they'll row back as long as it behaves itself. Schools, construction, more shops, maybe coffee shops and some hotels in May. Restaurants then and probably a lot of companies. Cinemas I think could be July and pubs as well under strict rules. That's most of it.

Deleted User wrote: »

While not doubting the ability of masks to prevent spread in any way, that video is not science. The vocalisation on the uncovered version was very different. As a public health message useful, but scientifically it does not tell us anything

So the Editorial Board of the New England Journal of Medicine (the premiere medical journal worldwide) were mistaken in publishing this interesting scientific project ?

:rolleyes: