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Formal words that the UK use but we don't

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    I got some strange looks the first time I used it in the UK. It was with a group of people who knew it was probably not meant as a racist term and explained the context to me
    - Mates, "what are you doing for lunch?
    Me "oh I'll probably grab a sambo and meet you back in the canteen".

    Took effort for me not to say it again though

    You wouldn't want to have said "I could murder a sambo" . Sometimes it seems the phrase "Two countries divided by a common language" could be equally applied to England and Ireland as to England and the USA.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    I am pretty sure Sambo ( for sandwiches ) was used in Britain until it became politically incorrect to use it because of the not nice use of the word !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu



    He was far from an idiot, by the way

    Perhaps he was just extremely unoriginal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    Cupboard...As in

    English person: "where are the teabags?"

    Me: "in the press"

    English person: "the what!?"

    Me "the press...there above the kettle."

    English person "oh...you mean the cupboard!"

    Me: "fúck off"

    Wait...did you say formal or informal words :pac:

    Every other nation says cupboard, press is unique to us


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    blinding wrote: »
    Britain has been no partner to the Republic of Ireland.

    Since the 26 Counties left the Uk it can be argued that for most of the time Britain made life as hard as it could for the Republic of Ireland. Certainly up to 1990 just to put a date on it.

    There were many times when it seemed like the UK was unfriendly towards this country. I think of the Great Irish Famine, Troubles in Northern Ireland, Birmingham Six , Guildford Four and other cases.

    I've also heard our politicians say that Ireland was losing an important ally when the UK fully exits the European Union as a result of Brexit. Right now the UK is in a transitional phase so the impact is still unknown. The UK signed the Anglo Irish Agreement in 1985 behind the unionists backs under it's prime minister, Margaret Thatcher which gave Dublin some influence in the six counties for the first time since partition. The Irish punt was once pegged to GBP Sterling currency for many years. The UK and Republic of Ireland also created a Common Travel Area (CTA) pre-EEC days which is still going to be in effect even if there is a "hard Brexit".


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,382 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Well, it was sixty years ago. Grammar and usage change. There are no hard and fast rules.

    He was far from an idiot, by the way

    Can and may have both been used to indicate permission since at least the 19th century.


  • Registered Users Posts: 371 ✭✭whatswhat


    "May I" was posh talk when I grew up up England. "Can I" was used everywhere North of Watford


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    whatswhat wrote: »
    "May I" was posh talk when I grew up up England. "Can I" was used everywhere North of Watford

    Watford in Hertfordshire, or the Watford Gap in Northamptonshire??


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Zaph wrote: »
    Spot the Protestant! :D

    Ha.
    I was informed my family must've been protestant as an ancestor had a "fancy name" and "protestants name their children all sorts of things".

    It was blatantly not a Christian name.

    I also say cupboard even though theres no board for cups in there. No press in there either.
    Admittedly I just got tired of being patronised by an English protestant when I called it a press :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    This quiz is interesting.

    It will tell you what part of Britain or Ireland you come from by the words you use. Very accurate when I tried it.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/02/15/upshot/british-irish-dialect-quiz.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    This quiz is interesting.

    It will tell you what part of Britain or Ireland you come from by the words you use. Very accurate when I tried it.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/02/15/upshot/british-irish-dialect-quiz.html

    It suggested I'm from Killarney. I pronounce things very differently to Kerry people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    It suggested I'm from Killarney. I pronounce things very differently to Kerry people.

    Are you joking? Just gave me a rough geographical area on the map, not a specific location.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Are you joking? Just gave me a rough geographical area on the map, not a specific location.

    No, the whole Kerry area was darkest red and it said Killarney in giant letters. That was the only place name and only word on mine. Odd...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭threetrees


    If you tell an English person you are "grand" they expect you to be royalty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Upforthematch


    You ought....certainly in the south of England.

    Grinds my gears when I hear it from someone irish!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    iamstop wrote: »
    Brit would was "I was sat watching TV"

    Irish would say "I was sitting watching TV"

    The second sentence is correct in standard English. The first is colloquial and used only in parts of the North of England.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Ha.
    I was informed my family must've been protestant as an ancestor had a "fancy name" and "protestants name their children all sorts of things".

    It was blatantly not a Christian name.

    I also say cupboard even though theres no board for cups in there. No press in there either.
    Admittedly I just got tired of being patronised by an English protestant when I called it a press :D
    There's only one way to be sure.

    Where is your toaster ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    I hear the word "Gutted" a lot there but not here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    No, the whole Kerry area was darkest red and it said Killarney in giant letters. That was the only place name and only word on mine. Odd...

    Maybe you use some particular terms that they use Kerry? Do you have a parent from there?

    My father is only from 20 miles away from where I was brought up but I do notice that some of terms he uses would be different to the local ones and I would use some of them.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Early doors instead of Early days

    Oh my days instead of oh my god - Or is it oh my daze? Dont understand this one at all


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  • Registered Users Posts: 371 ✭✭whatswhat


    Watford in Hertfordshire, or the Watford Gap in Northamptonshire??

    Northhamptonshire:)


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They’ve started saying ‘was’ where they should be using ‘were’ far too much. Innit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭thejuggler


    They use the term loft instead of attic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭cbb1982


    English people say “I’m going shop or I’m going pub” it used to drive me mad we would say I’m going to the shop...

    Worked with a girl her neighbours and best friend was the Smith Family always referred to them as the “Smiffs”

    Also had a guy in work throw in word pedantic or facetious at any given opportunity


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    There's only one way to be sure.

    Where is your toaster ?
    Maybe you use some particular terms that they use Kerry? Do you have a parent from there?

    My father is only from 20 miles away from where I was brought up but I do notice that some of terms he uses would be different to the local ones and I would use some of them.

    The closest is a grandparent from Cork.
    I've always loved Kerry (not Killarney so much as West and Beara) but I've no blood relatives from Kerry. None that I've spoken to or know of. Spoke to someone from Kerry a lot last year and if anything it was noticeable that my pronounciation and vocabulary is a bit different (although I recognised a lot of his, from my Kerry teacher at primary school. I don't count him for this as he taught us in Irish). I expected to get an English result because I socialise with so many English born people but I try not to pick up their ways of saying things (if I ever say "savvy" I hope someone mercy kills me). Sorry, I guess I'm just the fluke of that quiz.

    Capt'n Midnight: technically I don't own/use a toaster but there is one here for other people's use. It lives on the counter or worktop next to the chopping block or surface. I use any of those terms :):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    one think i've noticed about Brit speak esp the english is that they can't pronounce ing at the end of words they pronounce it as ink

    e.g. something - some'ink, going - go'ink, running - runn'ink


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Most of the examples are of regional accents.
    They're not formal...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Most of the examples are of regional accents.
    They're not formal...
    Our Irish Informality has broken out !


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Most of the examples are of regional accents.
    They're not formal...

    Call the cops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,261 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    cbb1982 wrote: »
    English people say “I’m going shop or I’m going pub” it used to drive me mad we would say I’m going to the shop...

    Very much a North Of England thing, Lancashire/Yorkshire.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Call the cops.
    Old Bill , Mate / Chum / Pal in Scotland ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Very much a North Of England thing, Lancashire/Yorkshire.
    Yorkshire People are ribbed for being a bit tight ; So they don’t believe in wasting words :D

    I am a bit tight myself so I can see where they are coming from !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,487 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Very much a North Of England thing, Lancashire/Yorkshire.
    Kind of. They're not saying "I'm going pub", it's common in Northern England to shorten "to the" to a very short 't, sometimes so short that it's barely discernible, but it's there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I find it funny that people are picking very colloquial and regional expressions and seem to think that all English people speak the same way.

    Also people have picked out extremely antiquated and/or extremely upper class expressions and ways of speaking and seem to be suggesting that it's the norm.

    On the other hand, lots of people are suggesting that all Irish people use the same terms that they do.

    Accents, and vocabulary areextremely diverse in both countries and there is much crossover.

    Many people also seem to think that expressions that have been in common usage for 30 years in Ireland are, somehow, a new thing.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    blinding wrote: »
    Old Bill , Mate / Chum / Pal in Scotland ;)

    The polis.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    The polis.
    Is that North of England and / or Scotland ?


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    blinding wrote: »
    Is that North of England and / or Scotland ?

    Glasgow is where I’ve heard it.


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Alun wrote: »
    Kind of. They're not saying "I'm going pub", it's common in Northern England to shorten "to the" to a very short 't, sometimes so short that it's barely discernible, but it's there.

    I'm goingt Rovers as they'd say in Coronation Street.

    I do like the colloquial expressions from the north of England.

    I like how they use the word our when talking about their family. Our John went on holidays.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Ive one friend from Glasgow and somehow he escaped that pit of nastiness with a heart of gold intact. Yes that is true "polis" is glasgow slang. I cannot stand glaswegian vernacular and attitude. Brings my red mist. Belligerent sly untrustworthy people who would double cross you in their sleep.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,725 ✭✭✭✭blueser


    Always loved the word "bobbins" when I was growing up in Manchester.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bobbins


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nonce is a good one too that never got much use here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Nonce is a good one too that never got much use here.
    ‘ Ponce ' is another one, to go a bit Father Tedish,


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    fryup wrote: »
    one think i've noticed about Brit speak esp the english is that they can't pronounce ing at the end of words they pronounce it as ink

    e.g. something - some'ink, going - go'ink, running - runn'ink

    I’ve heard somefink used in London/Essex. Never heard anyone say runnink or goink though.

    It’s very much a regional accent thing though. For a like to like comparison you would have to say that here the equivalent would be putting nothing on the end of ing, as in nuttin instead of nothing or people who say been instead of being.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,725 ✭✭✭✭blueser


    Aegir wrote: »
    I’ve heard somefink used in London/Essex. Never heard anyone say runnink or goink though.

    It’s very much a regional accent thing though. For a like to like comparison you would have to say that here the equivalent would be putting nothing on the end of ing, as in nuttin instead of nothing or people who say been instead of being.
    Agreed. That "ink" on the end of words is predominantly a London/South East thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    I just found it annoying that I had someone who says “one, two, free. Uncle Aurfur is ‘avin a barf!” asking me to “go on mate: say thirty three and a third!” and then being disappointed that I pronounce th correctly, but just going on endlessly about “you lot say th like de” anyway. Same guy kept asking a friend of mine from Yorkshire to say “Upper Street” too and greeting her with “Ay up” until she eventually told him to go ... himself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,746 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Sir
    Dame
    Viscount

    Your Majesty


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    I gave and took abuse in school but I wouldn’t comment on red hair, why would I? :confused: It’s nothing remarkable. And I never said ginger

    If you are a red headed footballer having a bad game in the UK the ginger comments will start coming from the fans. Saying ginger as if it’s freakishly rare, it’s not


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 whatsthecraic?


    Xertz wrote: »
    I just found it annoying that I had someone who says “one, two, free. Uncle Aurfur is ‘avin a barf!” asking me to “go on mate: say thirty three and a third!” and then being disappointed that I pronounce th correctly, but just going on endlessly about “you lot say th like de” anyway.


    Surely they asked you to say "Firty free and a fird"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Furlough being the latest one...

    Aren't we kind of doing that with the E350 payments etc?

    Secondment another one. I have been seconded to work in the UK in summers past. Never hear the word used in Ireland.

    Administration instead of liquidation. Loads more examples.

    Maybe i'm adding 2+2 and getting 5 but the conspiracy nut in my head told me to write this thread.

    The UK has many regional variations in language, so what you might hear will differ depending if you're in Derry, Belfast, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Manchester, Cardiff or London!

    Official government speak (jargon) is another story.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    Surely they asked you to say "Firty free and a fird"?

    Haha - you should hear official British aristocracy pronounce the fraction one fifth - the second letter "f" in "fifth" is not emphasised although; we never followed suit on that one here.

    That said, some folk here in Ireland can sometimes get it wrong when they refer to "Westminster" by pronouncing it incorrectly as "Westminister" and while I don't mind except; if it's one of our own senior politicians contributing to a discussion in the presence of some leading British politicians who are not always understanding of other cultures and ethnic groups in Britain.

    One of the few things that was funny on BBC soap, EastEnders was June Brown playing the character, Dot Cotton/Branning and could often be heard using bad grammar.


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