Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

joe_99 · 16-04-2020 07:58PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

I'm comparing apples with apples, you dont understand stats

Person A has 10 friends - 10 years later all are alive

Person B has ten friends - 10 years later all are dead

What's wrong with Person B?

He happens to be 90. Person A is 20. Apple's with apples? Or other factors in play?

MrMusician18 · 16-04-2020 07:59PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Are you being serious?

Mortality rates - deaths (tested positive)/Total population tested

That's wrong too. It's positive tested deaths/ total positive tests.

JP Liz V1 · 16-04-2020 07:59PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I thought we hit the peak last week?

I don't we have yet sadly

Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 08:01PM

Coyote wrote: »

Hi Mic 1972
I would love to believe that your number are right, but I would have to believe that Irish people are 4-5 times less lightly to die from Covid19 than people from Italy.
are Irish people 5 time less lightly to die than Belgium people?
the death rate has been worked out at 1-1.5% from country's with high testing like SK.
if Italy has 22,170 deaths it should have around 1.5-2.2million cases per 1 death per 100 people
I would love to think that Irish people just stronger or have a 5x better health system that no one else has but the number do not show that.
are we 5 times better at not die from this than the Belgium people?

Regards

Coyote

OK, I'm only comparing number of infected people here, I'm not looking at death rate.
Italy and Ireland are almost at the same level in terms of infected people per million, that's where the comparison stands
Regarding the death rate you are correct, we are doing much better in Ireland compared to Italy or other countries, like Spain. That's another analysis all together

JP Liz V1 · 16-04-2020 08:01PM

Is foreign workers still coming over here for farms?

niallo27 · 16-04-2020 08:01PM

Anyone else just want to get the ****en thing at this stage and chance being immune from it. I'm in my late 30s, no conditions I know of and fairly fit.

Refractions · 16-04-2020 08:02PM

Coyote wrote: »

Hi Mic 1972
I would love to believe that your number are right, but I would have to believe that Irish people are 4-5 times less lightly to die from Covid19 than people from Italy.
are Irish people 5 time less lightly to die than Belgium people?
the death rate has been worked out at 1-1.5% from country's with high testing like SK.
if Italy has 22,170 deaths it should have around 1.5-2.2million cases per 1 death per 100 people
I would love to think that Irish people just stronger or have a 5x better health system that no one else has but the number do not show that.
are we 5 times better at not die from this than the Belgium people?

Regards

Coyote

Please stop signing your posts 'Regards, Coyote', it's annoying.

Ace2007 · 16-04-2020 08:03PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Anyone else just want to get the ****en thing at this stage and chance being immune from it. I'm in my late 30s, no conditions I know of and fairly fit.

Was actually thinking of this earlier on, regarding nursing homes, given the large number of healthcare workers have gotten the virus - if these were redeployed to nursing homes - would this reduce the spread? This on the basis that a confirmed cased previously can't pick up/spread the virus?

frillyleaf · 16-04-2020 08:04PM

Rvsmmnps wrote: »

Its a virus,pretty much a once in a lifetime occurrence.There is almost no plan just alot of effort and hope.Our efforts might have very little impact irregardless.

Any info on the bse injections effectiveness on the virus,or potential effectivness?

I don’t think this will be a once in a lifetime occurrence if we don’t drastically change how we farm and treat animals...

boardise · 16-04-2020 08:05PM

joe_99 wrote: »

You like to select numbers out of context that paint the worst picture possible

Can't be . Mic doesn't spin. He told us so himself.

bettyoleary · 16-04-2020 08:05PM

foxyladyxx wrote: »

At the press conference today . .one of the ''experts'' said that many of the deceased covid 19 patients in care homes had displayed no symptoms.

I don't think he said no symptoms, he said they didn't display typical symptoms, ie cough etc. But, they were still unwell in some way. They wernt carrying on their daily routine and just dropped dead without the nurses noticing I'm sure. They were unwell and needed to see a DR and a test could have been done if others in the home were showing typical symptoms and they were as homes have several cases now,

niallo27 · 16-04-2020 08:05PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Was actually thinking of this earlier on, regarding nursing homes, given the large number of healthcare workers have gotten the virus - if these were redeployed to nursing homes - would this reduce the spread? This on the basis that a confirmed cased previously can't pick up/spread the virus?

I'm sure there would be volunteers but from a legal point of view it would be a nightmare if someone died, no amount of waivers would cover it.

Kermit.de.frog · 16-04-2020 08:07PM

ek motor wrote: »

17000 new cases in France. They must be testing a LOT.

Not the smoothest looking ascent

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Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 08:08PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Are you being serious?

Mortality rates - deaths (tested positive)/Total population tested

I was referring to the Death/1 Mil pop reported on wordometer
that's not related to the number of tests

Looney1 · 16-04-2020 08:08PM

Did George Lee just say"dropping like flies, "

boardise · 16-04-2020 08:08PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I thought we hit the peak last week?

We're prob'ly talkin' twin peaks here.

woohoo!!! · 16-04-2020 08:08PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is foreign workers still coming over here for farms?

Yes, like every year they're coming to the big horticultural set ups. I dread to think what their accommodation is like.

joe_99 · 16-04-2020 08:09PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

That's another analysis all together

Which many on this thread have stated is due to increased testing in Italy of sicker people than Ireland.

castletownman · 16-04-2020 08:10PM

Remember when Sinn Fein won all those seats in the General Election and people were saying the country was f*cked?

That was gas.

Balf · 16-04-2020 08:10PM

Looney1 wrote: »

Did George Lee just say"dropping like flies, "

I wasn't watching, but it sounds like George.

joe_99 · 16-04-2020 08:12PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

I was referring to the Death/1 Mil pop reported on wordometer
that's not related to the number of tests

It is if you are not testing people before or after they die

Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 08:12PM

joe_99 wrote: »

Which many on this thread have stated is due to increased testing in Italy of sicker people than Ireland.

Fair enough, once again I'm not looking at death rate here
I'm looking only at the number of infected people per million, this is where the comparison with Italy stands

Funsterdelux · 16-04-2020 08:13PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Anyone else just want to get the ****en thing at this stage and chance being immune from it. I'm in my late 30s, no conditions I know of and fairly fit.

I wouldnt, you just dont know how your body's immune system will react. Im mid 30s and I wouldnt fancy it.

Dr. Bre · 16-04-2020 08:13PM

castletownman wrote: »

Remember when Sinn Fein won all those seats in the General Election and people were saying the country was f*cked?

That was gas.

Remember when the homeless crisis was headline news

coastwatch · 16-04-2020 08:14PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Of the 750 odd confirmed cases, those which have a known source accounted for 49% which would include
health workers, nursing homes and family/household transmission. 51% therefore were community transmission.

As you rightly point out, after 5 weeks in lockdown, each and every single one of those people caught it while they were meant to be observing good hygiene rules to prevent the spread of disease. But apparently we cannot blame "the people", it's the HSE, government or some other bogey man that's always at fault. Society was never good at acknowledging it's own failures.

I predicted an acceleration in spread as a result of non-observation around Easter and the good weather and look what's happened.

Philip Nolan confirmed that today that "growth in the community is close to zero”.
The 51% community spread is the percentage for all cases (12425) up to midnight Tuesday 14th April.
That important detail makes the rest of your post complete nonsense.

Vivienne23 · 16-04-2020 08:14PM

Bobtheman wrote: »

I don't share your confidence

What confidence we are not going to be locked down forever it’s not possible , unless each individual decide to lock themselves down ,the government have started us off it’s down to us now to keep ourselves virus free

Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 08:14PM

joe_99 wrote: »

It is if you are not testing people before or after they die

how many people do you think are dying for respiratory complications after developing pneumonia that aren't tested for covid?

DevilsHaircut · 16-04-2020 08:15PM

Philip Nolan's/NPHET's modelling data from today's briefing.

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/#view-the-latest-modelling-data

Kermit.de.frog · 16-04-2020 08:15PM

Some good news from New York, lowest death toll since April 2nd. They are still paying a dreadful price though.

New hospitalisations continue to fall allbeit from a very high base.

Wombatman · 16-04-2020 08:15PM

Anyone have a general idea what formula and parameter values get us an R value < 1?

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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