Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

13-04-2020 05:20PM

Aegir wrote: »

This is concerning

https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-deaths-5073495-Apr2020/

I would say it’s prudent. There should be a constant review to see how accurate reporting is.

Ace2007 · 13-04-2020 05:21PM

1641 wrote: »

Incorrect. Unlike many countries these are all included in our numbers.

Incorrect, if you die and the result is unknown at time of death/buriel, your more than likely not included in the death rates....

fritzelly · 13-04-2020 05:22PM

Aegir wrote: »

This is concerning

https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-deaths-5073495-Apr2020/

Would be the same for every country - no one is testing every death to see if they have covid unless there is reason to

13-04-2020 05:23PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Some guy on VM1 news yesterday said some nursing home fatalities were dying while waiting on test results

And? These are the most vulnerable people who will succumb quickly once they contract the virus. A test result will not save anyone who contracts the virus. And clinical treatment will no change as a result of a positive test

13-04-2020 05:25PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

If your loved one was in a nursing home and dying/died waiting on a result, would you want to know the result, or would you prefer not to know, and maybe have the chance to be with them, and hold their hand one last time?

Unfortunately you will probably only get that opportunity if they are confirmed negative.

stephenjmcd · 13-04-2020 05:26PM

Italy reports 3,153 new cases of coronavirus and 566 new deaths.

New cases down nearly 1,000 on yesterday and yesterday was the highest number tested in Italy.

Deaths rise but as has been said before deaths will continue to be high

13-04-2020 05:26PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Incorrect, if you die and the result is unknown at time of death/buriel, your more than likely not included in the death rates....

But will be once confirmed

13-04-2020 05:27PM

hawkelady wrote: »

We have now peaked with some posters saying that icu nurses drink alcohol whilst working ! Wow,,, I’m looking forward to the downward trend..

Yes that was in either July or August 1993 in a Dublin hospital. My friend was awaiting to be called for a lung transplant in England. They were not drunk, but were sharing a bottle of wine with their lunch. There were superb staff in the hospital, I saw incredible work done there and my friend got his successful transplant.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with Covid-19, and I’m sure public hospitals have much better supervision now.

13-04-2020 05:27PM

Aegir wrote: »

This is concerning

https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-deaths-5073495-Apr2020/

This relates to reports that more deaths are being listed on RIP.IE over the past month than in the corresponding period last year, allowing for the reported Covid19 deaths.

This is quite plausible and will likely be an issue in many countries. It is not necessarily due to unreported Covid-19 deaths. The numbers will have to be verified on the official death register but, if accurate, it could relate to various factors, eg, people not going to doctors or Accident and Emergency with symptoms or conditions that need to be investigated, or not getting the same level of treatment they normally would. HPSC are supposed to be monitoring this.

Ace2007 · 13-04-2020 05:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Unfortunately you will probably only get that opportunity if they are confirmed negative.

you be suprised

13-04-2020 05:30PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Incorrect, if you die and the result is unknown at time of death/buriel, your more than likely not included in the death rates....

It was stated at one of the press briefings that the death is recorded as Covid even if the test confirmation is not returned until after death.

irishgeo · 13-04-2020 05:30PM

Aegir wrote: »

This is concerning

https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-deaths-5073495-Apr2020/

We are also under reporting positive cases which mean the death rate is exaggerated.

BanditLuke · 13-04-2020 05:30PM

The rate in Italy is definitely slowing when compared to this time 2 weeks ago but by jesus its a hard slog. Numbers still very high unfortunately.

Mwengwe · 13-04-2020 05:30PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

If your loved one was in a nursing home and dying/died waiting on a result, would you want to know the result, or would you prefer not to know, and maybe have the chance to be with them, and hold their hand one last time?

Ultimately it shouldn't be a choice left up to people, sadly, as most of us would probably risk it.

stephenjmcd · 13-04-2020 05:31PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

The rate in Italy is definitely slowing when compared to this time 2 weeks ago but by jesus its a hard slog. Numbers still very high unfortunately.

Unfortunately so, probably more so that they locked down the north but there was pictures of loads from the north going south which you would assume has hit the slowdown in numbers.

13-04-2020 05:35PM

There was a massive fight between travellers in Enniskillen over the weekend. One fella dead, another has had his leg amputated.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0413/1130225-fermanagh-murder-investigation/

Overnight, travellers have landed in Bundoran right beside a housing estate. Looks like they fled enniskillen and are now blatantly disregarding the lockdown measures.

Slurry has been mentioned as a FU to them and I’d love if it happened. An entire town that relies on tourism is complying with the rules and then these bastards arrive.

13-04-2020 05:36PM

irishgeo wrote: »

We are also under reporting positive cases which mean the death rate is exaggerated.

The epidemiologists & statisticians will be factoring all this in no doubt. Once reliable antibodies tests have been established these will possibly be used more and more in the analysis.

Mwengwe · 13-04-2020 05:38PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52267376

Spain with 3000 new cases daily, and 300-400 deaths daily are now opening with those so called '' LOW'' figures.

SO again, we could see 350 new cases a day for next 20 years, so what do we do, shut it down for 20 years,

We should be focusing on increasing the ICU beds, not spending billions on Covid Payments to keep people at home. Spend billions on 500 icu beds and reopen.

This is really stupid. Theoretically it's not impossible - very unlikely but not impossible - we could have a vaccine by late this year, we could have treatments that lessen the severity.
This idea of creating more ICU beds and then things will be better? No-one should be ending up in intensive care if it can be avoided. Even if you survive, being on a ventilator ****s you up short-term and often long-term too.

JP Liz V1 · 13-04-2020 05:38PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

If your loved one was in a nursing home and dying/died waiting on a result, would you want to know the result, or would you prefer not to know, and maybe have the chance to be with them, and hold their hand one last time?

I don't think you can be with then, hold their hand if waiting on a result, isolating as nursing homes have no visitors

I do think I would want to know if a relative died from the virus

MD1990 · 13-04-2020 05:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There is NO exaggeration there, I can give you precise details if you wish by PM. I do not go in for empty words, if you knew me you would realise that. In fact I am holding back on it, rather than anything. Medical staff are composed of the exact same material as every other sector of society, so it is inevitable they will occasionally display bad behaviour. For goodness sake, we’ve had Dr Shipman, though he was fortunately a rarity. People, when stressed, default to their natural off-duty behaviour. That particular nurse in the private hospital said she did not know what had come over her at that minute, and we got on well for the remainder of my stay in the hospital.

ok fair enough apologies.

i knew some of the staff would be poor at times but drinking in icu, should have been fired straight away.

JP Liz V1 · 13-04-2020 05:41PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

There was a massive fight between travellers in Enniskillen over the weekend. One fella dead, another has had his leg amputated.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0413/1130225-fermanagh-murder-investigation/

Overnight, travellers have landed in Bundoran right beside a housing estate. Looks like they fled enniskillen and are now blatantly disregarding the lockdown measures.

Slurry has been mentioned as a FU to them and I’d love if it happened. An entire town that relies on tourism is complying with the rules and then these bastards arrive.

What a fcuking disgrace

eagle eye · 13-04-2020 05:43PM

Aegir wrote:

This is concerning

If you go through these threads I've pointed all that stuff out here.

silverharp · 13-04-2020 05:45PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

There was a massive fight between travellers in Enniskillen over the weekend. One fella dead, another has had his leg amputated.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0413/1130225-fermanagh-murder-investigation/

Overnight, travellers have landed in Bundoran right beside a housing estate. Looks like they fled enniskillen and are now blatantly disregarding the lockdown measures.

Slurry has been mentioned as a FU to them and I’d love if it happened. An entire town that relies on tourism is complying with the rules and then these bastards arrive.

what does that mean, it doesn't make sense as a stand alone sentence?

13-04-2020 05:45PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What a fcuking disgrace

Feel sorry for the Gardai. There’s supposedly loads of them standing together. I dunno what can be done. Slurry would be the right move or the army lads in Finner Camp in Bundoran.

froog · 13-04-2020 05:46PM

presser?

13-04-2020 05:47PM

silverharp wrote: »

what does that mean, it doesn't make sense as a stand alone sentence?

Blast em with ....... slurry

irishgeo · 13-04-2020 05:47PM

froog wrote: »

presser?

Not on bank holiday. Just a statement

13-04-2020 05:48PM

MD1990 wrote: »

ok fair enough apologies.

i knew some of the staff would be poor at times but drinking in icu, should have been fired straight away.

I don’t believe it would happen nowadays, nor would it have happened way back in the days when the nuns were largely in charge. However a lot of woeful things happened behind the scenes in society, some of which we have learned about in undercover reports since. Some superb work took place in this same hospital especially in the care of people dying of AIDS.

JP Liz V1 · 13-04-2020 05:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And? These are the most vulnerable people who will succumb quickly once they contract the virus. A test result will not save anyone who contracts the virus. And clinical treatment will no change as a result of a positive test

It seems some are not even getting tested or any treatment in nursing homes "testing is a clinical decision"

214 outbreaks in nursing homes

fr336 · 13-04-2020 05:50PM

Got my first ever supermarket delivery tonight. Do I don a mask? :pac:

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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