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Calf price chitchat

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    #1952
    visatorro
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    Mortelaro wrote:
    Carnew was terrible today About a quarter those prices 9 buyers offering sh1te prices Brought mine home Wont be back in a hurry

    How did mart operate with new restrictions?


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    #1953
    whelan2
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    visatorro wrote: »
    How did mart operate with new restrictions?

    Not very well obviously :D


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    #1954
    Castlekeeper
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    Siamsa Sessions wrote: »
    Was looking at BB and CH heifer calves this evening on a neighbours dairy farm.

    They’re 4 weeks old and fairly square stock. He’s well set up and they’re looking well - plenty straw under everything in the place, eating meal, picking away at hay.

    I’m looking for 20-ish, in 2 batches - 10 now and another 10 in a fortnight’s time.

    What kinda cash would you offer him?

    If their good calves, I think 200 would be fair on both parties, while you might pick them up here and the cheaper, he would have got 250-300 if it wasn't for the lockdown.


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    #1955
    Bass Reeves
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    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    If their good calves, I think 200 would be fair on both parties, while you might pick them up here and the cheaper, he would have got 250-300 if it wasn't for the lockdown.

    Beef is down to 3.5/kg base. A 330kg DW heifer grading R= will make 1220 at slaughter. That leaves 1k to cover costs and margin for two years work

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #1956
    Mortelaro
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    visatorro wrote: »
    How did mart operate with new restrictions?

    You dropped the calves up and left
    Only the buyers were there
    Very badly organised calves taken by the buyer at his price and you weren't told!
    Noone rung!
    Mine were on the way to the north
    Very vexed I ordered them back and collected them
    Total joke


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    #1957
    Siamsa Sessions
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    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    Beef is down to 3.5/kg base. A 330kg DW heifer grading R= will make 1220 at slaughter. That leaves 1k to cover costs and margin for two years work

    Thanks for the replies. Wouldn’t leave a huge margin (does anything?) but I’d be OK with those figures.

    I’ll give him a shout for a chat on it tomorrow

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    #1958
    Mortelaro
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    Same crack here now in Enniscorthy mart
    Shipper offering 90 euros for the best of Angus heifers and bull calves,a whole pen beside us
    We haggled him up to 120 but are bringing them home
    Its a joke


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    #1959
    Mooooo
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    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Same crack here now in Enniscorthy mart
    Shipper offering 90 euros for the best of Angus heifers and bull calves,a whole pen beside us
    We haggled him up to 120 but are bringing them home
    Its a joke

    With the new 120 day rule some lads may hold, could force exporters up a bit. Not likely to happen down here in west cork tho


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    #1960
    Albert Johnson
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    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Same crack here now in Enniscorthy mart
    Shipper offering 90 euros for the best of Angus heifers and bull calves,a whole pen beside us
    We haggled him up to 120 but are bringing them home
    Its a joke

    What town will you head for tomorrow and will it be any better? Trucking them around the country costs money and although the price isn't great I can't see why cattle prices in general will improve in the short term. It's none of my business but usually when lads show cattle they want to sell them and it's definitely a buyer's market atm.

    The decision is yours but I'd start to think long and hard about what's staying or going from round the yard regardless of what looks a good or bad price because the outlook isn't great in my eyes anyway. Before anyone mentions it I neither buy or sell suck calves so have no skin in the game.


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    #1961
    liosnagceann75
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    Sold Aax heifers €200 and Aax bulls €250 out of the yard yesterday and today. Local agent organised 2 buyers to call and see them. Best prices I got in the mart this year was €230 for heifers and €295 for bulls. I don't like selling out of the yard but I'm happy enough with the prices. Good strong calves 3 - 5 weeks


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    #1962
    Mortelaro
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    Albert Johnson wrote: »
    What town will you head for tomorrow and will it be any better? Trucking them around the country costs money and although the price isn't great I can't see why cattle prices in general will improve in the short term. It's none of my business but usually when lads show cattle they want to sell them and it's definitely a buyer's market atm.

    The decision is yours but I'd start to think long and hard about what's staying or going from round the yard regardless of what looks a good or bad price because the outlook isn't great in my eyes anyway. Before anyone mentions it I neither buy or sell suck calves so have no skin in the game.

    Oh I agree
    This was a different set of calves to yesterday
    It was always planned to do both to see what the situation was
    No other way of knowing
    Looks like its cattle and dairy farming for me until this crisis is over
    No point giving them away for others


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    #1963
    Albert Johnson
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    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Oh I agree
    This was a different set of calves to yesterday
    It was always planned to do both to see what the situation was
    No other way of knowing
    Looks like its cattle and dairy farming for me until this crisis is over
    No point giving them away for others

    Perhaps my first post came across as harsh and I meant it more as a pause for thought rather than recommending selling at any price just to get them gone. If your in a position to rear the calves without over stretching your resources then it's definitely an option. However if you need to sell for whatever reason then today would probably be better than tomorrow imo.

    I'm not saying that it's the end of the world regards cattle farming but as above I don't see any great light on the horizon in the short term. This is just my own personal thoughts based on all the apparent problems facing the sector currently. In short if you think you can weather the storm in the medium term then hold out but if you need to sell I'd be advising to start making decisions sooner rather than later.


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    #1964
    yewtree
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    Sold calves this week to a neighbour. All Hereford calves, herd here has a good bit of jersey in it.
    €85 for heifers and €110 bulls, AI bred, 10-18 days old. I hope he has a turn out of them. Cant see any margin in keeping them on the farm for any longer.


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    #1965
    Siamsa Sessions
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    Calf jobbers had the run of New Ross as well today apparently.

    BB heifer calves went from €120-220 depending on age and condition

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    #1966
    Hard Knocks
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    Siamsa Sessions wrote: »
    Calf jobbers had the run of New Ross as well today apparently.

    BB heifer calves went from €120-220 depending on age and condition
    If that’s the run of it
    Time to find farmer customers and sell out of the yard
    No point paying commission and deal with that


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    #1967
    Mortelaro
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    Albert Johnson wrote: »
    Perhaps my first post came across as harsh and I meant it more as a pause for thought rather than recommending selling at any price just to get them gone. If your in a position to rear the calves without over stretching your resources then it's definitely an option. However if you need to sell for whatever reason then today would probably be better than tomorrow imo.

    I'm not saying that it's the end of the world regards cattle farming but as above I don't see any great light on the horizon in the short term. This is just my own personal thoughts based on all the apparent problems facing the sector currently. In short if you think you can weather the storm in the medium term then hold out but if you need to sell I'd be advising to start making decisions sooner rather than later.
    Yeah doing the maths, I'd have the resources to run them alright and I'm already starting out 40 to 80 euros a head ahead of the jobber that was buying today and yesterday and 200 + per calf ahead of the lad buying the same 2 weeks ago,is my logic if you follow?
    It's not a huge number in my case,and surely marts will be back in full by next spring? Otherwise we are all royally fucked


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    #1968
    DukeCaboom
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    Neighbour got €300 for serious hex bull calves & €270 for heifers from Gortatlea.


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    #1969
    3 the square
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    Neighbour got €300 for serious hex bull calves & €270 for heifers from Gortatlea.

    How did they manage the sale with the new arrangement ??


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    #1970
    alps
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    Neighbour got €300 for serious hex bull calves & €270 for heifers from Gortatlea.

    What system of selling have they.


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    #1971
    DukeCaboom
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    He calls out, buys the calves and u drop them to the mart.


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    #1972
    cute geoge
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    Neighbour got €300 for serious hex bull calves & €270 for heifers from Gortatlea.

    I would presume 6 week old calves


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    #1973
    DukeCaboom
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    cute geoge wrote: »
    I would presume 6 week old calves

    A good six weeks..


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    #1974
    alps
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    He calls out, buys the calves and u drop them to the mart.

    Excellent...

    It means you can say no at home, rather than having to return to a mart after saying no..


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    #1975
    dar31
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    any prices for
    Hex and AAx calves bulls and heifers
    2-3 weeks old
    a neighbour got a few to put on milky cows in a hurry
    but we never agreed price


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    #1976
    Siamsa Sessions
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    dar31 wrote: »
    any prices for
    Hex and AAx calves bulls and heifers
    2-3 weeks old
    a neighbour got a few to put on milky cows in a hurry
    but we never agreed price

    If it’s any use to you, I paid €80 for 3-4 week old AAx heifers last week

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    #1977
    whelan2
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    Siamsa Sessions wrote: »
    If it’s any use to you, I paid €80 for 3-4 week old AAx heifers last week

    Getting 80 for aa heifers and 100 for aa bulls all over 2 weeks. Other people probably getting more but that's life


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    #1978
    Timmaay
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    200 for he bulls and 150 he heifers, 4/5wks old outa the yard to the local dealer who you prb know well dar ha.


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    #1979
    Siamsa Sessions
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    Do many on here vaccinate calves for coccidiosis?

    Is it expensive per calf?

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    #1980
    older by the day
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    105 for 2wk old as bulls, for export. Are they exporting heifers


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    #1981
    tanko
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    Siamsa Sessions wrote: »
    Do many on here vaccinate calves for coccidiosis?

    Is it expensive per calf?

    I think Vecoxan works out at about €6 per three week old calf.
    Haven't been doing mine this year as have been letting them out at about 10 days old, too soon at that age.
    Hopefully with the dry weather there won't be as much coccidiosis about, time will tell.


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