Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Roger_007 wrote: »

In my opinion Fauci is very much regarded as the voice of truth and integrity to the majority of Americans. Trump can’t sack him without incurring huge political damage. Fauci has succeeded in getting the truth out without directly contradicting Trump but at the same time letting everyone know that Trump is talking through an orifice intended for other purposes.
Fauci is playing a very difficult game but so far he is playing it brilliantly.

agreed. and after the initial poll jump for trump which is the usual rally around your leader thing, he's starting to drop now. the two hour press conferences which he treats like campaign rallys are starting to backfire big time.

Spencer Brown wrote:

The South Korean discovery is as valid as claims a vaccine will be ready in September, people need to stop quoting it as if it's fact, it isn't. It needs further investigation.

I don't why you are comparing it to a vaccine or quoting me as if I made a statement about it other than we need to see how it plays out.

Iamabeliever wrote: »

Austria / Denmark ! Look to have got a good grasp on infection rates. What have these two countries done to achieve this. I hear very little in the media. maybe this should be our Benchmark. If I can remember went on lockdown 1-2 weeks before us.

Denmark completely closed their borders and Austria had a partial closure

MaureensFry wrote: »

Currently 11 months into a Visa here in the states.

Would you pack up and go home or see it out.

On my own here as well and working the last 5 weeks from home.

I'm going a bit mad!

How long is left on your visa?

And would it be any better here?

Here is the situation as of now in JP Morgan's latest briefing note on the global curve to clients (actually Singapore seems to have gone back to the acceleration phase now)



They also attach the graph again that terrifies governments

Strazdas wrote: »

Incidentally, Denmark are only about a week / ten days ahead of us in where they are in managing / controlling the virus.

Maybe we can take some solace in fact that we can expect to see some control in two weeks under the current circumstances. Or Maybe, I am wishful thinking

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I have cried for Italy, I have cried for Spain, I have cried for America, I have cried for Ireland... How does someone switch off from this and the news?

I plugged in an old Xbox yesterday and for some reason lost RTÉ One as a consequence.

The Xbox is going to stay plugged in.

keynes wrote: »

Guy from Stena Line responded, saying "On the 4 ferries a day into Dublin, there are 60 passengers today and 30 tomorrow... Lots of freight traffic though."


That's 90 non-freight people over 2 days from a country where the disease is running rampant. Well, that's reassuring! We're still one of the only countries in the world with unrestricted entry. If seeding from abroad continues, it nullifies the point of any lockdown. It's not a coincidence that all other countries with relatively similar profiles to ours, but had closed borders (like Denmark, New Zealand) are now beginning to get back to business, while we still await our "surge."

How many times.... WHO says closing boarders at this stage does not matter! Virus already very much present in Ireland, very much so, worry about that.

MaureensFry wrote: »

I do, but this is likely to go on for months and months here.

There's no 2KM rule and people arn't doing the social distancing.

In fact there mad to go back to work.

If you're working from home and can get groceries delivered, you'll be fine. It'll go on for as long here as it will anywhere else. You can always come back if/when they decide 'economy before people' in the US and open things up.

I can't see any circumstances in which Ireland will close its borders, especially for citizens.

In my opinion Fauci is very much regarded as the voice of truth and integrity to the majority of Americans.

Fauci and his team went from 1 to 2.2 million, to 100 to 250 thousand estimated deaths even assuming full compliance with distancing and lockdown measures, to now admitting reported deaths will be "likely closer to 60,000". Proving that his abstract model was a failure on its own terms.

Is accuracy not important as well?

Fauci may be the epitome of integrity yet he's been utterly wrong. My guess is he has more snob appeal to a member of the Dublin middle-class than a vulgar character like Trump. He's a medical 'expert', making him the kind of person who people want to listen to and believe.

At least maybe now some people will realise that abstract modelling around medical statistics (which are notoriously difficult to work with at the best of times) isn't an exact science with some sort of definitive authority that can be used to cow laypersons.

There were competing models with vastly different assumptions and numbers from disease specialist labs in Oxford University and other institutions. Did those researchers lack integrity? The pathetic attempts by mainstream media to debunk these later models patronisingly claimed that they didn't have all the data (and Fauci did?)