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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #2192
    Spencer Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Spencer Brown


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The cork guy that was on life support, he looks fit and healthy, it's so scary and it can happen to any of us.

    Just imagine those few minutes before being knocked out as they put you into a coma. It must be the scariest thing to have to go through.

    The odds of someone young fit and healthy reacting like that to it are thankfully miniscule. If we were all to worry about everything bad that could happen to us we'd never enjoy a day of our lives.


  • #2193
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    easypazz wrote: »
    Do you follow Trumps nightly comedy show?

    It is definitely a competition to him, under 100000 official and he declares victory, because his actions brought it down from 2.2 Million.

    So any deaths unrecorded are a bonus

    Under 100k dead and everyone will consider it a victory.


  • #2194
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Danzy wrote: »
    Under 100k dead and everyone will consider it a victory.

    100000 in USA.


  • #2195
    Ardent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭Ardent


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The cork guy that was on life support, he looks fit and healthy, it's so scary and it can happen to any of us.

    Just imagine those few minutes before being knocked out as they put you into a coma. It must be the scariest thing to have to go through.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0412/1130132-coronavirus-survivor-thanks-all-who-risked-their-lives/?fbclid=IwAR2_fTrCiP7FYoQT0lBtLgyB9b0iHr8hJs2liXed5iMF2bkaClMfQRJ9B5g

    This is why we all need to stay at home for the moment. We really don't want ICUs overrun and unable to help folks in the way he was helped.


  • #2196
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,512 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Spencer Brown wrote:
    The odds of someone young fit and healthy reacting like that to it are thankfully miniscule. If we were all to worry about everything bad that could happen to us we'd never enjoy a day of our lives.
    We don't know enough about this thing yet to conclude anything. As if know it's the elderly, obese and those with underlying conditions that have been hardest at hit by covid-19.
    The South Korean discovery is another new factor where previously recovered people are now infected again and we don't know how that's going to play out.


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  • #2197
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    A virologist has just been on BBC Radio 5 Live stating that due to its nature it will be very difficult to develop a vaccine for this virus and in his opinion it will be 18 months to 2 years before an effective one is available.

    clinical trial recruitment

    http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-03-27-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-programme-opens-clinical-trial-recruitment

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  • #2198
    Away With The Fairies
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    Ardent wrote: »
    This is why we all need to stay at home for the moment. We really don't want ICUs overrun and unable to help folks in the way he was helped.

    I wish more people understood this.


  • #2199
    owlbethere
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    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    A virologist has just been on BBC Radio 5 Live stating that due to its nature it will be very difficult to develop a vaccine for this virus and in his opinion it will be 18 months to 2 years before an effective one is available.

    This is our generations smallpox or scarlet fever or the Spanish flu or TB. We're going to need to deal with this as best we can and hopefully a vaccine will be formed but the vaccine will be for the next generation. We can't live under lockdown until a vaccine comes about.


  • #2200
    froog
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    cloudatlas wrote: »
    See McGregor is taking pot shots at the Stena Line PR guy on twitter bringing up the fact he is British and generally acting the pr1ck. Useless idiot doesn’t understand how lorries are getting into the country.

    mcgregor must be going out of his mind stuck at home with his family.


  • #2201
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    froog wrote: »
    mcgregor must be going out of his mind stuck at home with his family.

    There are people coming here through airports though. Not for business. I am certain some are through ferries.

    All travel for people should be halted intentionally it should be only cargo and its personal.


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  • #2202
    igCorcaigh
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    This is our generations smallpox or scarlet fever or the Spanish flu or TB. We're going to need to deal with this as best we can and hopefully a vaccine will be formed but the vaccine will be for the next generation. We can't live under lockdown until a vaccine comes about.

    This is the problem.

    A certain relaxing of restrictions may come this summer, idk, perhaps, but it will be a constant battle to keep the virus low in the population.

    It's such a delicate balancing act, I'm just glad I don't have to make these life and death decisions :(


  • #2203
    froog
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    oh boy, trump won't like this

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/12/fauci-trump-rebuffed-social-distancing-advice-coronavirus

    Prominent US public health adviser Dr Anthony Fauci appeared on Sunday to confirm a bombshell New York Times report which said he and other Trump administration officials recommended the implementation of social distancing to combat the coronavirus in February, but were rebuffed for almost a month.


  • #2204
    Spencer Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Spencer Brown


    eagle eye wrote: »
    We don't know enough about this thing yet to conclude anything. As if know it's the elderly, obese and those with underlying conditions that have been hardest at hit by covid-19.
    The South Korean discovery is another new factor where previously recovered people are now infected again and we don't know how that's going to play out.

    The South Korean discovery is as valid as claims a vaccine will be ready in September, people need to stop quoting it as if it's fact, it isn't. It needs further investigation.


  • #2205
    1641
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    Aegir wrote: »
    Do we?

    The official figures are those that died from covid 19. Do they also include those whose death came from other factors but were related to covid 19 like heart failure?


    Yes, we include all those who die (of whatever direct cause) who test positive for Covid-19. I understood from one of the press briefings that this includes test results confirmed post-mortem.


    "Note: Ireland (HSE) to its credit follows best practice guidance from the WHO and counts anyone who has tested positive for Covid-19 and passed away in mortality statistics. Not every country follows WHO good practice, so there could be much under-reporting in the table below in other countries, so few if any conclusions can be drawn at this stage"


    https://www.cfireland.ie/about-cf/latest-news/cfi-update-on-covid-19


  • #2206
    KiKi III
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    froog wrote: »
    oh boy, trump won't like this

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/12/fauci-trump-rebuffed-social-distancing-advice-coronavirus

    Prominent US public health adviser Dr Anthony Fauci appeared on Sunday to confirm a bombshell New York Times report which said he and other Trump administration officials recommended the implementation of social distancing to combat the coronavirus in February, but were rebuffed for almost a month.

    Fauci, like that navy commander, probably realised he has to fall on his sword for the truth to come out.


  • #2207
    wakka12
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    Deaths in the EU now at 75,000. About 50% of the predicated total deaths so long as social distancing measures are kept in place


  • #2208
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    froog wrote: »
    oh boy, trump won't like this

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/12/fauci-trump-rebuffed-social-distancing-advice-coronavirus

    Prominent US public health adviser Dr Anthony Fauci appeared on Sunday to confirm a bombshell New York Times report which said he and other Trump administration officials recommended the implementation of social distancing to combat the coronavirus in February, but were rebuffed for almost a month.

    Fauci does a delicate act of going against Trump in a tactful way


  • #2209
    keynes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭keynes


    froog wrote: »
    mcgregor must be going out of his mind stuck at home with his family.




    Guy from Stena Line responded, saying "On the 4 ferries a day into Dublin, there are 60 passengers today and 30 tomorrow... Lots of freight traffic though."


    That's 90 non-freight people over 2 days from a country where the disease is running rampant. Well, that's reassuring! We're still one of the only countries in the world with unrestricted entry. If seeding from abroad continues, it nullifies the point of any lockdown. It's not a coincidence that all other countries with relatively similar profiles to ours, but had closed borders (like Denmark, New Zealand) are now beginning to get back to business, while we still await our "surge."


  • #2210
    owlbethere
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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    This is the problem.

    A certain relaxing of restrictions may come this summer, idk, perhaps, but it will be a constant battle to keep the virus low in the population.

    It's such a delicate balancing act, I'm just glad I don't have to make these life and death decisions :(

    Its a nightmare situation. Some sort of a balance has to come about.

    I know there's o ford's trials due to start that was linked above and it looks good and hopefully it will be promising and it brings good news but I think we also need to plan for a 'what if' situation. What if it doesn't work.

    I understand how important this lockdown and restrictions are but we can't live like this forever.


  • #2211
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Imagine if trump gets re-elected the only thing keeping him from letting this thing run wild is he needs to win another election.


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  • #2212
    OscarMIlde
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Thanks for explaining. Not my area of expertise. Very concerning that scientists in Wuhan studying these exact viruses and proving they could mutate to infect humans prior to outbreak.

    It could of course happened naturally . I don’t know enough to know how likely one way or the other.

    Anyway stay safe.

    You didn't understand what I said at all.


  • #2213
    Roger_007
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    Stheno wrote: »
    Fauci does a delicate act of going against Trump in a tactful way

    In my opinion Fauci is very much regarded as the voice of truth and integrity to the majority of Americans. Trump can’t sack him without incurring huge political damage. Fauci has succeeded in getting the truth out without directly contradicting Trump but at the same time letting everyone know that Trump is talking through an orifice intended for other purposes.
    Fauci is playing a very difficult game but so far he is playing it brilliantly.


  • #2214
    silverharp
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Imagine if trump gets re-elected the only thing keeping him from letting this thing run wild is he needs to win another election.

    you are a mind reader, who else do you do?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #2215
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    I have cried for Italy, I have cried for Spain, I have cried for America, I have cried for Ireland... How does someone switch off from this and the news?


  • #2216
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I have cried for Italy, I have cried for Spain, I have cried for America, I have cried for Ireland... How does someone switch off from this and the news?

    Stop logging onto boards and posting all the time might help,if it is affecting your mental health this much then for your own sake you need to step away from the phone


  • #2217
    BanditLuke
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    Its a nightmare situation. Some sort of a balance has to come about.

    I know there's o ford's trials due to start that was linked above and it looks good and hopefully it will be promising and it brings good news but I think we also need to plan for a 'what if' situation. What if it doesn't work.

    I understand how important this lockdown and restrictions are but we can't live like this forever.

    And we won't of course. We need to buy time to get more ventilators, ICU's,PPE testing equipment, nurses and doctors trained to use ventilators etc.. that's what all this is about. I've no doubt the vaccine will take 18 months to 2 years at the very earliest and we aren't going to lockdown until then but iv'e also no doubt it won't be relaxed at the end of the next 3 weeks either.

    My best guess as some random internet dumbass is current restrictions until mid May then a slight relaxation of that then lockdown again in July when it becomes obvious numbers are on the rise again rinse and repeat until the vaccine. That said maybe we'll get lucky and this will burn itself out in the summer who knows.


  • #2218
    Iamabeliever
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    Austria / Denmark ! Look to have got a good grasp on infection rates. What have these two countries done to achieve this. I hear very little in the media. maybe this should be our Benchmark. If I can remember went on lockdown 1-2 weeks before us.


  • #2219
    MD1990
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I have cried for Italy, I have cried for Spain, I have cried for America, I have cried for Ireland... How does someone switch off from this and the news?

    try and find something that will occupy your mind if possible.

    Reading,think of some tasks you need to do,research things you are interested,listen to music,maybe some try some art,netflix series,

    I dont know why people keep researching the virus at this stage.

    I barely check the stats anymore or news about the virus.
    No point looking at something constantly that gives bad news all the time.


  • #2220
    Blueshoe
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    Iamabeliever wrote: »
    Austria / Denmark ! Look to have got a good grasp on infection rates. What have these two countries done to achieve this. I hear very little in the media. maybe this should be our Benchmark. If I can remember went on lockdown 1-2 weeks before us.

    Both governments are described as right wing populist parties. In some international metrics the current Danish government is even classed as far right.

    Coincidence?

    Nice to finally see some well overdue love for right wing parties though.


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  • #2221
    JP Liz V1
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    Iamabeliever wrote: »
    Austria / Denmark ! Look to have got a good grasp on infection rates. What have these two countries done to achieve this. I hear very little in the media. maybe this should be our Benchmark. If I can remember went on lockdown 1-2 weeks before us.

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