Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

blackcard · 12-04-2020 05:20PM

A ray of hope

gmisk · 12-04-2020 05:21PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Why were the German figures added today to the total? Made it seem as though there was a large jump, when in there was actually a reduction on yesterday

There has been a delay in them coming back so they are being added in dribs and drabs, there were some added yesterday as well.

12-04-2020 05:21PM

They had a man aged 45 with no underlying health conditions on the News he was from Cork he had to be put in an induced coma because of Covid 19. Maybe this Will get the message across that it is not just old people.

Micky 32 · 12-04-2020 05:22PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

People have different perspectives.

You can celebrate less people dying today then yesterday. Enjoy it.

Others see it differently.

Yes that’s correct. The doom and gloomists will see it completely different for sure. Would you have been happier if today’s figures were the same as yesterday’s?

Away With The Fairies · 12-04-2020 05:24PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

It's not a lack of positivity, it's your lambasting anybody who supports the current restrictions as advocating a permanent lockdown or as enjoying the present situation.

Yeah, it's not a lack of positivity, it's a lack of empathy.

kwestfan08 · 12-04-2020 05:25PM

mariaalice wrote: »

They had a man aged 45 with no underlying health conditions on the news he was from Cork he had to be put in an induced coma because of Covid 19. Maybe this Will get the message across that it is not just old people.

Was he overweight? I think that is an underlying condition in and of itself but it isn't officially counted as one.

PopTarts · 12-04-2020 05:26PM

Are tests still being sent to Germany or is there a date when all these tests might be back?

Achasanai · 12-04-2020 05:27PM

Class MayDresser wrote: »

Rte have a hard on for UK figures and updates since day 0. The amount of air time given to the NI and UK status is an embarrassment to the irish national broadcaster.

Would be odd if RTÉ didn't include the figures on our closest neighbours, surely?

Interestingly, main headline that I see is the Irish figures.

syngindub · 12-04-2020 05:27PM

Will the trumpster have a press conference today?

Cork Boy 53 · 12-04-2020 05:27PM

easypazz wrote: »

Its killing some lads to see Eire putting up a strong fight.

Eire eh..... Your mask is slipping further now.

gamerguy1 · 12-04-2020 05:28PM

New cases still high but we are doing good. Lockdown is working and social distancing is working. It will be worth it if we save lives of people.

anewme · 12-04-2020 05:28PM

Well I will tell you one thing.

The old people in the nursing home’s fighting this have far more grit, respect and bravery than some of the gutless cowards on here.

pjohnson · 12-04-2020 05:28PM

mariaalice wrote: »

They had a man aged 45 with no underlying health conditions on the news he was from Cork he had to be put in an induced coma because of Covid 19. Maybe this Will get the message across that it is not just old people.

Not a hope. Young people dying has just been wrote of as "an outlier" theres always an excuse to ignore facts and claim its only the elderly.

12-04-2020 05:28PM

Longing wrote: »

Your positives are not normal your views are Old people are expandable for the economy.

Unfortunately there are several in the 'relaxation of restrictions' thread who have close to zero empathy for the elderly at present.

wakka12 · 12-04-2020 05:31PM

mariaalice wrote: »

They had a man aged 45 with no underlying health conditions on the news he was from Cork he had to be put in an induced coma because of Covid 19. Maybe this Will get the message across that it is not just old people.

I think the message is pretty clear now that COVID is a more dangerous disease than first thought but the risk still remains relatively low for people under 60

12-04-2020 05:33PM

mariaalice wrote: »

Maybe this Will get the message across that it is not just old people.

Everyone knows it's not just old people.

Everyone also knows it's nearly all old people.

It's the truth.

expectationlost · 12-04-2020 05:34PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

The reality is these cases are likely 7 or 10 days old. Id say the amount of cases actually recorded in the last few days has been much lower than those reported today.

well they should give us date of test request data

pc7 · 12-04-2020 05:36PM

kwestfan08 wrote: »

Was he overweight? I think that is an underlying condition in and of itself but it isn't officially counted as one.

No he looked fairly fit, was in New York. Has it been shown if certain strains are harder?

An Ciarraioch · 12-04-2020 05:36PM

PopTarts wrote: »

Are tests still being sent to Germany or is there a date when all these tests might be back?

Day one of the German analysis amounted to 15,000 out of 29,000 tests, so must be nearly all analysed now, or at least by tomorrow.

ACitizenErased · 12-04-2020 05:37PM

The numbers really mean nothing until the backlog is cleared. Realistically there’s probably 2/3 thousand resolved cases here. We simply cannot trust the new numbers because of how long ago the tests were taken.

citysights · 12-04-2020 05:37PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Eh?? Less people died today. You should be glad of that under these awful current circumstances. What is wrong with people on this forum ffs

Best question ever well said. Not everyone obviously but some people seem to have a death obsession here, guilting everyone else into nearly breathing. All over some media as well ffs. When do we ever hear the good news that people have actually recovered, many people. No It’s all about lock downs, dark days, pure doom and gloom, even talking at the start of this about the erection of temporary morgues. Doom merchants. Some of them would nearly have the grave dug for you. No wonder people are terrified. It’s just not right.

pc7 · 12-04-2020 05:38PM

citysights wrote: »

Best question ever well said. Not everyone obviously but some people seem to have a death obsession here, guilting everyone else into nearly breathing. All over some media as well ffs. When do we ever hear the good news that people have actually recovered, many people. No It’s all about lock downs, dark days, pure doom and gloom, even talking at the start of this about the erection of temporary morgues. Doom merchants. Some of them would nearly have the grave dug for you. No wonder people are terrified. It’s just not right.

Virgin Media news showed a lovely clip of a 65 year old coming home recovered and RTÉ had a 45 year old who was in an induced coma for 9 days fully recovered. They are reporting some good news stories.

Micky 32 · 12-04-2020 05:39PM

pc7 wrote: »

No he looked fairly fit, was in New York. Has it been shown if certain strains are harder?

I wonder does the outcome have anything to do with how much of the virus we are exposed to. Say one person was infected by 20,000 viruses and someone else 50,000 spores.

Ace2007 · 12-04-2020 05:40PM

Seamie12345 wrote: »

This is absolutely a truth.
My mother is in a nursing home having had to be moved there permanently at the beginning of March having (miraculously) come through double pneumonia after fabulous care in hospital where they gave her every single chance to recover in spite of tremendous odds and a number of other underlying conditions.
With an accompanying heart condition, the nursing home have already contacted me directly to say that should she contract the virus (no cases in the home currently or to date), then she would not be going to hospital.
Not an easy phonecall for them to make but I understand the reasoning (in her particular situation at least)

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I would have thought it would be the families, next of kin decision ultimately

Fairly sure the HSE wrote to all nursing homes advising them that residents who get the virus should be treated in the homes - perhaps for certain people they may move to a hospital setting if they were young or whatever, but my understanding would be they wouldn't be.

whatawaster · 12-04-2020 05:40PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The numbers really mean nothing until the backlog is cleared. Realistically there’s probably 2/3 thousand resolved cases here. We simply cannot trust the new numbers because of how long ago the tests were taken.

The only number we can ever come close to trusting is number of deaths. If we have 300 deaths you can probably assume that there could be upwards of 30,000 cases in the community, assuming a 1% death rate

pc7 · 12-04-2020 05:40PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I wonder does the outcome have anything to do with how much of the virus we are exposed to. Say one person was infected by 20,000 viruses and someone else 50,000 spores.

Maybe, think they felt that’s why some medics and health care professionals died in Wuhan. I’m not as in tune with reports etc as I was back when this was a ‘thing’ in China and the inner prepper in me was prepping! Now I’ve a bit of corona fatigue, just dip in and out.

stephenjmcd · 12-04-2020 05:41PM

https://twitter.com/datavizireland/status/1249386740340731904?s=19

https://twitter.com/datavizireland/status/1249387282295029760?s=19

Hospitalisation and ICU percentages, this shows that the measures taken prior to implementing the current restrictions are working, I'd expect to see the current restrictions reflected more towards the end of this week in the numbers. ICU numbers are very steady and that's a huge positive.

People can argue all they want about testing, testing doesn't make much of a difference in these numbers, your isolating as soon as you show a symptom regardless of a positive or negative test result and regardless if it takes 5 days or 15 days to get that result. If your in a bad way your admitted to hospital.

New Home · 12-04-2020 05:41PM

The old tale of the ant and the grasshopper is still pertinent, I see.

easypazz · 12-04-2020 05:41PM

Its obviously killing quite a few on here that we are not hitting 60 and 80 deaths a day

Ace2007 · 12-04-2020 05:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Everyone knows it's not just old people.

Everyone also knows it's nearly all old people.

It's the truth.

The trust is 66% of those need hospital care are under 65 - that's fact.

It's the hospital numbers that really only matters nothing else.

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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