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Cavanjack · 07-04-2020 10:36PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

were they on adlib

No but they would have been eating 10kg for the last 2 months.

oneten · 08-04-2020 12:31AM

epfff wrote: »

Where can that be got?
Id say 330 more tlikely he quote for Tuesday.

nenagh , but that was on monday

richie123 · 08-04-2020 10:28PM

Theheff wrote: »

Not saying lads should be selling there cattle for half nothing but if the factories are cutting the arse then you cannot expect guys to pay top dollar. I have bigger cattle to kill in the next few weeks that I fed all winter & more than lightly they will leave no profit. Guys are looking for crazy money for plain stock. I dont want to be shot for saying this but handy dairy stock would want to be at €1.50 /kg in the current climate.

1.20 more like it to be very realistic.

kk.man · 08-04-2020 10:41PM

The UK media, political classes, farmer groups and consumers giving hell to the English supermarkets for importing Polish beef. So much so they can't get rid of the beef off the shelves and have discounted by almost a third.

A very bad own goal scored by all companies involved.

Reggie. · 08-04-2020 10:43PM

kk.man wrote: »

The UK media, political classes, farmer groups and consumers giving hell to the English supermarkets for importing Polish beef. So much so they can't get rid of the beef off the shelves and have discounted by almost a third.

A very bad own goal scored by all companies involved.

Wouldn't happen here

kk.man · 08-04-2020 10:51PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Wouldn't happen here

Nothing

Fine Day · 09-04-2020 06:51AM

richie123 wrote: »

1.20 more like it to be very realistic.

Yes you might be right. I would imagine it would take a fare angus heifer to leave €1000 after her in the factory today. If lads are expecting €650 for 300 to 350 kgs cattle & keep the animal for up to 12 months to get fit to kill. Thats not good business but I am sure lads will do it.

wrangler · 09-04-2020 07:46AM

kk.man wrote: »

Nothing

I wonder why they aren't throwing out the Irish stuff, It shouldn't be there either.
Same thing really

kk.man · 09-04-2020 08:46AM

wrangler wrote: »

I wonder why they aren't throwing out the Irish stuff, It shouldn't be there either.
Same thing really

You do have a point but in fairness to the British consumer they have a certain loyalty to the Irish product. They will buy their own first and Irish second.

straight · 09-04-2020 08:55AM

wrangler wrote: »

I wonder why they aren't throwing out the Irish stuff, It shouldn't be there either.
Same thing really

British isles sure

Danzy · 09-04-2020 08:56AM

wrangler wrote: »

I wonder why they aren't throwing out the Irish stuff, It shouldn't be there either.
Same thing really

They obviously don't see it as such, lifetime on the shelf, history etc.

straight · 09-04-2020 09:50AM

straight wrote: »

British isles sure

I saw an article on Facebook, I think it was from the ,<mod snip while we check the source?>. They were blaming the beef protests for the reason there is polish meat on our shelves. It's like blaming the rape victim for wearing a short skirt. Fair maddening **** they wrote.

wrangler · 09-04-2020 10:30AM

straight wrote: »

I saw an article on Facebook, I think it was from the farmers journal. They were blaming the beef protests for the reason there is polish meat on our shelves. It's like blaming the rape victim for wearing a short skirt. Fair maddening **** they wrote.

Yea, the dealer claimed it was payback time for the protests.
However it's common knowledge that the British catering trade is supplied from poland and with the reduction in demand there the meat would've had to go to the supermarkets.........probably at a good price rather than sending it back

Good loser · 09-04-2020 11:34PM

straight wrote: »

I saw an article on Facebook, I think it was from the ,<mod snip while we check the source?>. They were blaming the beef protests for the reason there is polish meat on our shelves. It's like blaming the rape victim for wearing a short skirt. Fair maddening **** they wrote.

A scathing attack on last year's protests in Page 2 of the Journal - the editorial page - this week.
Spot on the money in my opinion.

Danzy · 09-04-2020 11:36PM

Good loser wrote: »

A scathing attack on last year's protests in Page 2 of the Journal - the editorial page - this week.
Spot on the money in my opinion.

In fairness the Farmers Journal is not the farmer's journal.

Bass Reeves · 09-04-2020 11:43PM

Good loser wrote: »

A scathing attack on last year's protests in Page 2 of the Journal - the editorial page - this week.
Spot on the money in my opinion.

Bullsh!t, dose anyone think the processor's would have behaved any different. It not like they did any favours to lads who tried to break blockade after the strike.

If anything the lads who tried to break the strike are not seeing the true colours of the processor's. I have actually given up buying the rag 2-3 weeks ago. If lads with cattle to sell at present had any ball and if IFA had any balls they ring the minister and tell him they were closing the factories.

The best thing that could happen is we block them and bankrupt them as they have no loyalty to either the country or to farmers. Anybody buying that bullsh!t is an idiot and anyone thinking it's true is a bigger idiot

Good loser · 09-04-2020 11:56PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Bullsh!t, dose anyone think the processor's would have behaved any different. It not like they did any favours to lads who tried to break blockade after the strike.

If anything the lads who tried to break the strike are not seeing the true colours of the processor's. I have actually given up buying the rag 2-3 weeks ago. If lads with cattle to sell at present had any ball and if IFA had any balls they ring the minister and tell him they were closing the factories.

The best thing that could happen is we block them and bankrupt them as they have no loyalty to either the country or to farmers. Anybody buying that bullsh!t is an idiot and anyone thinking it's true is a bigger idiot

Justin McCarthy is a balanced, shrewd individual.
He has a very good fix on farming issues - technical and political.

He runs a good ship.
You seem to let your sentiments and resentments run away with your judgement.
Why would those with 'balls' ring the Minister? What's it to do with him?
Last year's strike was idiotic from beginning to end.
FFS 30 factories (effectively 6) trading with 30 to 100,000 customers for a perishable product with a short shelf life!
Take a reality check.

Bass Reeves · 10-04-2020 12:38AM

Good loser wrote: »

Justin McCarthy is a balanced, shrewd individual.
He has a very good fix on farming issues - technical and political.

He runs a good ship.
You seem to let your sentiments and resentments run away with your judgement.
Why would those with 'balls' ring the Minister? What's it to do with him?
Last year's strike was idiotic from beginning to end.
FFS 30 factories (effectively 6) trading with 30 to 100,000 customers for a perishable product with a short shelf life!
Take a reality check.

Bullsh!t as well he was all ready to jump ship from the FJ a few years ago to go and work for was it MII or was it AIBP.

For the last 6+ months every problem with beef price is lad at BP doors. How the **** do we blame BP for it now. The processors are doing what they always do they collude to reduce price to farmers.

Did McDonalds just stop paying for burger meat when they announced there closure......was there a contract in place how long of that contract was left to run.

Why when British supermarkets are struggling to buy inspec beef can processors not extract a higher price for this. What was the rush to throw Polish beef onto British Supermarket shelves.

Since Brexit has been announced in 2016 the processors have used one issue after another to drop the price of beef blaming BP is Bullsh!t and only idiots buy that excuse.

The FJ is just a mouth piece for IFA and it is trying to protect them as much as possible

wrangler · 10-04-2020 08:06AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Bullsh!t as well he was all ready to jump ship from the FJ a few years ago to go and work for was it MII or was it AIBP.

For the last 6+ months every problem with beef price is lad at BP doors. How the **** do we blame BP for it now. The processors are doing what they always do they collude to reduce price to farmers.

Did McDonalds just stop paying for burger meat when they announced there closure......was there a contract in place how long of that contract was left to run.

Why when British supermarkets are struggling to buy inspec beef can processors not extract a higher price for this. What was the rush to throw Polish beef onto British Supermarket shelves.

Since Brexit has been announced in 2016 the processors have used one issue after another to drop the price of beef blaming BP is Bullsh!t and only idiots buy that excuse.

The FJ is just a mouth piece for IFA and it is trying to protect them as much as possible

Does it make any difference if Justin looked to move, he's doing a good job here. IFJ is doing very well. They're not afraid to put money into helping farmers.
You need a reality check, beef plan are bad mouthing Irish beef, Bord Bia, etc right across social media, what do they expect to happen other than putting consumers off beef. Are beef plan members only weanling producers that don't give a s...e about beef finishers....you'd wonder sometimes.
As for closing down factories, you saw what support that got last year, again weanling producers hampering finishers
I'm on here years telling you that farmers don't want to block factories,

Panch18 · 10-04-2020 09:52AM

Let’s call a spade a spade

The beef plan is an absolute farce of an organisation. And I use the word organisation likely

It was clear at the time that this was the case.

And every single thing to do with beef plan since has proven this to be the case. Secret WhatsApp groups, county agm’s Not recognised, bitching and moaning to any news outlet that will listen.

It’s like a kindergarden

They are a complete joke

wrangler · 10-04-2020 10:42AM

Panch18 wrote: »

Let’s call a spade a spade

The beef plan is an absolute farce of an organisation. And I use the word organisation likely

It was clear at the time that this was the case.

And every single thing to do with beef plan since has proven this to be the case. Secret WhatsApp groups, county agm’s Not recognised, bitching and moaning to any news outlet that will listen.

It’s like a kindergarden

They are a complete joke

They're now looking for justin to apologise for reporting why polish beef got into English supermarkets last week.
Beef plan seems to think their new role now is to harass IFA.

farawaygrass · 10-04-2020 10:49AM

Panch18 wrote: »

Let’s call a spade a spade

The beef plan is an absolute farce of an organisation. And I use the word organisation likely

It was clear at the time that this was the case.

And every single thing to do with beef plan since has proven this to be the case. Secret WhatsApp groups, county agm’s Not recognised, bitching and moaning to any news outlet that will listen.

It’s like a kindergarden

They are a complete joke

I went two evenings to a protests and at the time I thought fair play to ye. I think there was good men and women involved but the whole thing got out of control, with the tail wagging the dog. I have since changed my view and thought was a mess the whole thing was. First thing that annoyed me was they took shots at everyone and anyone, ifj, Ifa, bord bia. They should have picked their battles better. I’m not pro or anti any farm organisation by the way. Secondly, sending that letter to English’s beef customers saying Irish beef wasn’t truly grass fed-what were they thinking?
It had the potential to be something brilliant but the agms were the final nail in the coffin. How could you let them represent you with all the infighting.

mf240 · 10-04-2020 11:05AM

The factorys have been riding farmers for the last 50 years. Nothing to do with any group.

The only thing left for farmers to do is simply not produce beef cattle.

wrangler · 10-04-2020 11:15AM

mf240 wrote: »

The factorys have been riding farmers for the last 50 years. Nothing to do with any group.

The only thing left for farmers to do is simply not produce beef cattle.

Good businesses buy inputs cheap as they can, see the way that boardsies are pricing fuel at the moment, does that mean they're ''riding' too.
Time for some to cop on I think

cute geoge · 10-04-2020 11:31AM

wrangler wrote: »

Good businesses buy inputs cheap as they can, see the way that boardsies are pricing fuel at the moment, does that mean they're ''riding' too.
Time for some to cop on I think

No matter how cheap you buy inputs if aibp manipulate the market with imported beef from else where every time that beef demand increases your at nothing and you know this well

Bass Reeves · 10-04-2020 11:42AM

cute geoge wrote: »

No matter how cheap you buy inputs if aibp manipulate the market with imported beef from else where every time that beef demand increases your at nothing and you know this well

Wrangler is talking about processor's being allowed to buy cheap inputs beef in particular. He retired and has lost touch with farming and with reality. He only see everything through the the prism of what IFA and FJ says is good anything that is critical of them is bad

wrangler · 10-04-2020 01:06PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Wrangler is talking about processor's being allowed to buy cheap inputs beef in particular. He retired and has lost touch with farming and with reality. He only see everything through the the prism of what IFA and FJ says is good anything that is critical of them is bad

I'm more of a realist than some on here if they think they can bully any customer.
Beef plan badmouthed IFA with the promise of something better,
they bad mouthed beef processors with the promise of something better.
they've destroyed our beef trade, Ireland now has to compete with poland....great

Duke92 · 10-04-2020 04:30PM

Any one hear of this group looking for shipping cattle you pay a hundred for them to come and look at cattle then they come offer you a poor price that you won’t take
Waste of a hundred

ZETOR_IS_BETTER · 10-04-2020 07:35PM

wrangler wrote: »

they've destroyed our beef trade, Ireland now has to compete with poland....great

Our beef trade is fcuked with years....

manjou · 10-04-2020 08:15PM

Haven't read the article but bit of a coincidence that at the same time abp are trying to justify polish beef imports the editor of farmers journal trys to lay blame of beef price on protests. Remember the second round of protests where farmers led . The only thing the processors fear is farmer unity because if irish farmers all joined together they might achieve something. Ad for polish beef it's comming in by the container load.

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