CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

Cork Boy 53 · 09-04-2020 06:23PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Louise O Reilly SF. Jesus can you imagine.

I would prefer not to.

RobertKK · 09-04-2020 06:23PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Simon Harris did want it cancelled.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1232374407819079681

https://www.thejournal.ie/coronavirus-travel-5032358-Mar2020/

Speaking about why the Italy versus Ireland Six Nations game was called off, but the restriction of flights from Italy has not been announced, Harris said suspending the rugby game was a specific decision made due to it involving a large number of people from the affected area congregating in confined space for a prolonged period of time.

He said there is not the same risk with people travelling from areas of Italy who are “out and about” in open spaces, adding that there is no travel ban currently in the EU.

He was like a Tory using the EU as cover for his own inaction.

caveat emptor · 09-04-2020 06:23PM

Yeah seems PPE a real issue. No doubt they'll say they lived together.

Local TD Pauline Tully told Shannonside Northern Sound News that proper protective equipment was not provided to staff and shower and changing facilities are not up to standard:

She claims staff have become infected with Covid-19 after they were treating patients without the appropriate PPE, with many other staff described as “fearful for themselves and their families”.

The situation in the hospital has been described as “very scary” by a member of staff who spoke off the record to Northern Sound, with concerns over the number of staff testing positive.

caveat emptor wrote: »

70 doctors and nurses infected in cavan.
I guess they were all living together and none of them contracted in work.
Nothing to do with PPE.

If this is true why don't they show the percentage of them who actually lived with a colleague. I bet it's nothing near one hundred percent.

Saying Where someone acquired the infection is impossible. HSE covering their arse by saying transmission wasn't nosocomial for fear of future law suits no doubt.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/consultants-sent-to-cavan-hospital-after-70-medics-infected-with-coronavirus-1.4225029

speckle · 09-04-2020 06:25PM

Gynoid wrote: »

I don't look at these press conferences the govt have, but from following commentary on here they must be fecken indecipherable. Are they speaking in Swahili, or what? Nothing seems to be straightforward.

doing Swahili a diservice, spin speak, talk around the truth speak anything but just say it, like it is, both good and bad..... etc

kilkenny31 · 09-04-2020 06:25PM

So there is a lot of debate on here about lifting restriction and nobody can find agreement. When do people think our hospitals should go back functioning like regular hospitals. I.e. Caring for out patients, elective surgery's. Seems very unfair that someone could be in chronic pain waiting on an operation and has to wait indefinalty. I think they need to consider assigning a Covid hospital and all other hospitals run as normal.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 09-04-2020 06:26PM

Worztron wrote: »

Makes a great point about the need to get fresh air into hospital wards, to help dilute the viral load in the air... but modern hospitals rely on ventilation systems rather than opening large windows like the old hospital wards.

I made this point myself a couple of weeks ago, and how these wards must be a very toxic environment with huge quantities of the virus hanging in the air. Almost certainly increasing the rate that healthcare workers are getting sick, but also potentially making patients even sicker breathing in large amounts of the virus from other patients.

lbj666 · 09-04-2020 06:27PM

easypazz wrote: »

Do you think Louise O'Reilly SF would be doing a stellar job here?

I seriously doubt it, and I don't think many others would have confidence in her either.

We ve decifered that Noel Browne would be the only guy in our history that would up for the job. But ive my doubts since he was of an era where you could easier keep a lid on info getting out to the public.

BLIZZARD7 · 09-04-2020 06:28PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Ffs 500 more cases. Not flattening at all.

Ffs

lbj666 · 09-04-2020 06:28PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

So there is a lot of debate on here about lifting restriction and nobody can find agreement. When do people think our hospitals should go back functioning like regular hospitals. I.e. Caring for out patients, elective surgery's. Seems very unfair that someone could be in chronic pain waiting on an operation and has to wait indefinalty. I think they need to consider assigning a Covid hospital and all other hospitals run as normal.

We are in the middle of a pandemic

Frank Bullitt · 09-04-2020 06:31PM

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1248314619212566533

PRI_86576361-e1569349461821.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

Good to hear.

speckle · 09-04-2020 06:31PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Makes a great point about the need to get fresh air into hospital wards, to help dilute the viral load in the air... but modern hospitals rely on ventilation systems rather than opening large windows like the old hospital wards.

I made this point myself a couple of weeks ago, and how these wards must be a very toxic environment with huge quantities of the virus handing in the air. Almost certainly increasing the rate that healthcare workers are getting sick, but also potentially making patients even sicker breathing in large amounts of the virus from other patients.

maybe go back to the TB era. didnt they bring some patients out into the fresh air?

Curious_Case · 09-04-2020 06:31PM

KindOfIrish wrote: »

1 million or so people die every day for the past 100 years. Just think about it

That seems very high to me, where did you get that figure?

crossman47 · 09-04-2020 06:31PM

Gynoid wrote: »

I don't look at these press conferences the govt have, but from following commentary on here they must be fecken indecipherable. Are they speaking in Swahili, or what? Nothing seems to be straightforward.

I'd fault the listeners rather than those speaking.

Professor Moriarty · 09-04-2020 06:33PM

lbj666 wrote: »

We ve decifered that Noel Browne would be the only guy in our history that would up for the job. But ive my doubts since he was of an era where you could easier keep a lid on info getting out to the public.

That didn't work out too well for MacBride and Costello. When he resigned, Browne made public their sycophantic letters to the Catholic church.

derossi · 09-04-2020 06:34PM

Not trying to say one thing either way but I have a family member that runs a national supermarket. This crisis has been going on for a few weeks so obviously anecdotal. Much talk about masks etc. Supermarkets have been doing social distancing etc for the last while. Talk about risks in supermarkets and I think it is again anecdotal but a good idea of how or when we as a general population can move out of this gradually.

There has been no staff off sick since the start of this. None showing symptoms currently even though they get paid while off. In a scenario where we all feel we are at risk while in there for a short time, these staff are not coming down with sickness while in there all day.

Just a thought about what is ahead.

macmahon · 09-04-2020 06:35PM

Beasty wrote: »

Jeez! They are no-where near the headlines compared to Italy and Spain. I guess we're all getting used to seeing these atrocious figures. Unfortunately I have a feeling the UK is going to be up there in a few more days.

I don't know Beasty. I have a lot of friends and family and family on the frontline in the UK and they all are ok. They are although in fear of this surge as we were here in Ireland over the last few weeks. I don't normally have much of a reaction, with my disability towards others, but I do see alot of fear mongering in the media which is affecting too many people all over the world. I wish that would stop. I don't like to see so many people upset over something that dosn't seem to be happening.

kalkat2002 · 09-04-2020 06:36PM

Problem is when a lockdown looks more like family picnics outside...then you know it is not ...

kilkenny31 · 09-04-2020 06:36PM

lbj666 wrote: »

We are in the middle of a pandemic

Yes but a pandemic that could go on for a year or more. We need a permanent solution. We can't keep going like this indefinalty.

marno21 · 09-04-2020 06:37PM

derossi wrote: »

Not trying to say one thing either way but I have a family member that runs a national supermarket. This crisis has been going on for a few weeks so obviously anecdotal. Much talk about masks etc. Supermarkets have been doing social distancing etc for the last while. Talk about risks in supermarkets and I think it is again anecdotal but a good idea of how or when we as a general population can move out of this gradually.

There has been no staff off sick since the start of this. None showing symptoms currently even though they get paid while off. In a scenario where we all feel we are at risk while in there for a short time, these staff are not coming down with sickness while in there all day.

Just a thought about what is ahead.

Is this supermarket in an area with confirmed cases?

Few towns around here where there haven't been any cases confirmed yet and most of the townspeople are living in fear of the first.

The usual volumes of gossip about potential cases too.

silverharp · 09-04-2020 06:37PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

That seems very high to me, where did you get that figure?

more like 1/4 million a day

https://www.worldometers.info/

gabeeg · 09-04-2020 06:38PM

derossi wrote: »

Not trying to say one thing either way but I have a family member that runs a national supermarket. This crisis has been going on for a few weeks so obviously anecdotal. Much talk about masks etc. Supermarkets have been doing social distancing etc for the last while. Talk about risks in supermarkets and I think it is again anecdotal but a good idea of how or when we as a general population can move out of this gradually.

There has been no staff off sick since the start of this. None showing symptoms currently even though they get paid while off. In a scenario where we all feel we are at risk while in there for a short time, these staff are not coming down with sickness while in there all day.

Just a thought about what is ahead.

Anecdotal, sure, but it still gives me comfort. There's a couple of lovely older ladies working in the Dunnes next door to me. Nice to hear that all the measures they're taking are hopefully keeping them safe

gabeeg · 09-04-2020 06:39PM

macmahon wrote: »

I don't know Beasty. I have a lot of friends and family and family on the frontline in the UK and they all are ok. They are although in fear of this surge as we were here in Ireland over the last few weeks. I don't normally have much of a reaction, with my disability towards others, but I do see alot of fear mongering in the media which is affecting too many people all over the world. I wish that would stop. I don't like to see so many people upset over something that dosn't seem to be happening.

Dude, they're completely overwhelmed.

Certainly in London and the Midlands anyways. Hence all the deaths

Inquitus · 09-04-2020 06:40PM

Is this a clap for carers night here? or just in the UK?

timmy_mallet · 09-04-2020 06:40PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

That's frightening

I knew 3-4 weeks ago that the infrastructure of our health system wouldn't handle this. Nor would the government act fast enough

I've friends in three different countries who are dealing with this 5 times better and looked into living in one of them (I've lived in two of them previously) for as long as I could get a visa there

With closed borders all over the world (and for a long time), that ship has passed

Now every day my anxiety grows to scary levels and my mental health is on its knees

I mean, if you just stay inside, would you not be fine?

crossman47 · 09-04-2020 06:40PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yes but a pandemic that could go on for a year or more. We need a permanent solution. We can't keep going like this indefinalty.

To my mind there are three possible roads to follow:

1. Lift restrictions and let the virus do its worst resulting in many, many deaths - that's out IMO

2. Keep the current restrictions, enforce them rigorously and the virus will die out with many fewer deaths - desirable but impractical as the economy will die and anyway its clear many will continue to break the law

3. Gradually ease the restrictions and so accept a certain amount of avoidable deaths.

Take your pick!

timmy_mallet · 09-04-2020 06:42PM

Inquitus wrote: »

Is this a clap for carers night here? or just in the UK?

Is there anything to be said for a clap for the millions around the world whose life's direction has been considerably altered due to unemployment from this?

screamer · 09-04-2020 06:42PM

gabeeg wrote: »

Dude, they're completely overwhelmed.

Certainly in London and the Midlands anyways. Hence all the deaths

Yes I’d agree, we’ve a family member nursing in London and they’ve been off their feet, hospital packed and working with the flimsiest PPE they’ve ever seen.

Curious_Case · 09-04-2020 06:43PM

silverharp wrote: »

more like 1/4 million a day

https://www.worldometers.info/

That sounds closer, the poster was just guessing
No way it stayed almost constant for 100 years either

It was about 140,000 at the time "Don't Fear the Reaper" was written, although the lyrics reference 40,000
That's according to Wikipedia, not me

KindOfIrish · 09-04-2020 06:43PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

That seems very high to me, where did you get that figure?

It's probably an exaggeration, but what I mean, people have always been dying in huge numbers every day from the beginning of time and only now it's been used to scare people into submission.

MD1990 · 09-04-2020 06:44PM

there is probably many more dead around the world than being reported.

John Campbell said there was quite a few deaths in his hometown that has not been reported.

CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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