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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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    #7052
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,209 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Colm Henry said he has no idea where that number came from

    Thanks


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    #7053
    lbj666
    Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭lbj666


    keynes wrote: »
    A complete joke statistic given we have no idea how many are infected. Another useless "expert", this Nolan, who has already embarrassed himself with his 15000 March stat

    Get over yourself, you did see the trajectory that this virus took in Italy? anyone with any grasp of Math unstood what he was saying


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    #7054
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Why can't they just mention the number of daily tests conducted...can't be that hard to record


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    #7055
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    They just said the 51,000 figure was incorrect and they don't know where it came from

    Sound. I updated my post on hearing that.

    My questions re German tests still stand.


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    #7056
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    A Dublin politician has posted online that ICUs in the Mater, Beaumont and Connolly are full. Can anyone confirm? (I don't wish to read all the posts in The Daily Blur thread)

    If they are full, what now? Consultants start deciding that anyone over 60 doesn't get one when available?

    I thought extra ICU capacity was being built?
    Their standard ICU is at capacity, they have extra ICU capacity for overflows.
    Some news and polticians are guilty of scare mongering lately


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    #7057
    giveitholly
    Registered Users Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Cops need to crack down hard on people travelling this weekend

    Selfish

    Just wondering are they massaging the figures a little today,not the deaths but the cases which tested positive.Would they have released a much higher number today to try deter people from travelling this weekend,they might do the same again tomorrow.I could be completely wrong,Just a hunch


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    #7058
    Just Saying
    Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭Just Saying


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    At some stage Holohan talked about the German tests. He said somethong like 2300 tests were processed with 400 positives. Is that in total? Or just for today.

    Our own NVRL have said they can now only process about 1/3rd of their capacity due to reagent shortage.

    I wish the figures were presented in a more clearcut way.

    If the 51,000 waiting list is true its clear we are notgoing the right way.

    This is all over the place. How can they model based on this?

    Totally all over over the place.

    George Lee implied on twitter that there could be 1000 new cases from the German test results.There is no mention of it now so I can only assume that they actually have been included in the daily new case figures all along.


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    #7059
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Given we are an island and could have done far more early on with this virus before it became a problem and then a crisis, I think we did really badly early on, the politicians had their eye off the ball as they were concentrated on the general election and fall out, then when things could have been done, it was all left too late.
    It is unfortunate the election was called when it was but it was no excuse for what followed as it most definitely has cost lives, and that is the only thing that matters, we could have saved so many lives if the eye on being on the virus rather than government formation.

    The political parties are an absolute disgrace. To think we still only have a caretaking government is unreal.

    I really couldn't give a flying rats fcuking arse about what went on in the past and political point scoring with one another. All of the main parties should be getting into government and working together. This is the biggest threat that we have seen in our live times and its going to change us all. They should be doing their best to steer this ship away from the iceberg.


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    #7060
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,280 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    51,000 figure is wrong they’ve confirmed

    Michael Martin is a snake in the grass.


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    #7061
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    A Dublin politician has posted online that ICUs in the Mater, Beaumont and Connolly are full. Can anyone confirm? (I don't wish to read all the posts in The Daily Blur thread)

    If they are full, what now? Consultants start deciding that anyone over 60 doesn't get one when available?

    I thought extra ICU capacity was being built?

    Which Dublin politician is that?


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    #7062
    take everything
    Registered Users Posts: 9,804 ✭✭✭take everything


    Has that Keynes poster gone.
    He hasn't answered any of the posts questioning the stuff in his post


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    #7063
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Michael Martin is a snake in the grass.

    He has some serious explaining to do after tweeting that figure if it`s fake news.


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    #7064
    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,313 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    The new cases figures are pretty meaningless.
    They are a direct percentage of the number tested so if they could test the whole country, the cases would be huge.
    Deaths and intensive care cases are where to look and with the death figures, we are doing as well as can be expected.

    I think when all this settles down, the biggest scandal will be the numbers dying in nursing homes.
    They really need to get ahead of this in nursing homes by testing staff daily if need be.


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    #7065
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,682 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Right to any eijit who thinks they'll do what they normally do at Easter should be named and shamed.


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    #7066
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    51,000 waiting, would mean even at the 6.5% positive rate, would be 800 already hospitalized, 120 in ICU on top of what we have. I'm sure they would have noticed that increase.

    Somebody said here earlier the testing centres are quiet, not many looking for tests.

    Somebody said here yesterday the emergency hospital in UL is being dismantled.

    Obviously this may be BS but given the lack of ICU patients it makes sense.

    Really need to get the testing sorted, test same number every day and publish results at same daily intervals.


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    #7067
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Their standard ICU is at capacity, they have extra ICU capacity for overflows.
    Some news and polticians are guilty of scare mongering lately


    How much extra ICU capacity for overflows was built?

    Cheers


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    #7068
    Ace2007
    Registered Users Posts: 19,705 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    owlbethere wrote: »
    The political parties are an absolute disgrace. To think we still only have a caretaking government is unreal.

    I really couldn't give a flying rats fcuking arse about what went on in the past and political point scoring with one another. All of the main parties should be getting into government and working together. This is the biggest threat that we have seen in our live times and its going to change us all. They should be doing their best to steer this ship away from the iceberg.

    But there is zero chance that SF will go into any government with both FG/FF and vote for difficult measures - the government would last possible 6 months - their policies are so far apart.

    We saw this week a SF TD on health - wanting to do a twitter poll/response thing so that she could show the Minister for Health the issues in waiting time - as if he doesn't understand that?

    The whole thing is political point scoring - no party will go in with FG/FF because they know it's suicidal - and for the same reason SF don't want to be in government - and there is no alternative.


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    #7069
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,639 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Have to also take into account that given the sometimes 14 day wait for test results, the majority of the cases today may in fact be mostly recovered.


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    #7070
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Which Dublin politician is that?


    I'd rather not say. I'm usually a huge fan of them, hence they're the only politician on Socials that I follow

    But I'm now less of a fan if the statement they made re; ICUs is hyperbole


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    #7071
    Coyote
    Registered Users Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Coyote


    Number updated to match today's report

    we seem to be stuck in the slow change, which is worrying as that would be 18K cases by the end of the month and overload our ICU
    It's up you everyone how fast this grows if we don't do better than the 8% a day then we are looking at 35K by the end of the month


    No Change in number
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    Slow Change
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    Big Drop in numbers
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    if you wait till we are overloaded it's too late


    interesting visualization of covid19
    http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/


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    #7072
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,280 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    He has some serious explaining to do after tweeting that figure if it`s fake news.

    He's deleted it since.

    What a prick.


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    #7073
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    giveitholly wrote: »
    Just wondering are they massaging the figures a little today,not the deaths but the cases which tested positive.Would they have released a much higher number today to try deter people from travelling this weekend,they might do the same again tomorrow.I could be completely wrong,Just a hunch

    They did say they’d add the German test results into the figures during the week. Maybe that’s what they’re doing.


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    #7074
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    easypazz wrote: »
    Somebody said here earlier the testing centres are quiet, not many looking for tests.

    Somebody said here yesterday the emergency hospital in UL is being dismantled.

    Obviously this may be BS but given the lack of ICU patients it makes sense.

    Really need to get the testing sorted, test same number every day and publish results at same daily intervals.

    I understand the fustrating with the testing. Even Germany took over a month to scale up testing.
    I don't think the government are going solely on testing results, they are more focused in hospital and ICU admissions. Even we didn't test a single person, we would still have the same number of people in ICU etc...

    This is gonna be like y2k. If people don't see a disaster they will think it was all worthless going though the lockdowns etc...


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    #7075
    woohoo!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    My guess is that the total on the test list is 51k of which around 45k have been processed in the lab (I saw a figure of over 43k for yesterday), so about 6k waiting and some of those are with the German labs.


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    #7076
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,639 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    My guess is that the total on the test list is 51k of which around 45k have been processed in the lab (I saw a figure of over 43k for yesterday), do about 6k waiting and some of those are with the German labs.

    I think this makes most sense


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    #7077
    Tea Shock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 345 ✭✭Tea Shock


    thebaz wrote: »
    and for all those wanting more extereme lockdowns - look at Sweden - where they are just asking its citizens to behave like adults, and social distance , and keep some form of normality and economy running - just saying, as ther are going to be a lot more secondary casualities from this crisis - the economic casualties and ensuing mental health avalanche and people with other illnesses that are not getting treated, forgotten casualities.

    I don't understand your point

    Sweden has a far higher death rate per head than we've had.

    They're hardly what should be copied.


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    #7078
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    I understand the fustrating with the testing. Even Germany took over a month to scale up testing.
    I don't think the government are going solely on testing results, they are more focused in hospital and ICU admissions. Even we didn't test a single person, we would still have the same number of people in ICU etc...

    This is gonna be like y2k. If people don't see a disaster they will think it was all worthless going though the lockdowns etc...

    I don't think so, we've seen how bad other countries are getting it and I think most people now get it.


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    #7079
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,794 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    helimachoptor wrote: »
    It's so Irish, ffs can they not stick to what they said they'd do
    Why could they not simply say what they could do in the first place. They were not even caveating the figures they were throwing out a few weeks ago. All they had to do was say, we can take 1,500 swabs a day and hope to increase that to 5,000 or whatever, and we can deliver 750 test results a day, but hope to increase that to 2,000 (as they still seem to be struggling to get that many). That avoids a backlash in places like this.

    Consistently they have been using terminology that leave them wiggle room, but it comes across as almost deception. All they have to do is be honest. If they can't produce the information, say so, and say what they hope to do to address it (if anything)


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    #7080
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    mortality went from 3.87% to 4%


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    #7081
    thebaz
    Registered Users Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Is Sweden counting nursing home deaths in their numbers?

    I have no idea - but ther is discrepancies in nearly all the data including our own- just outlining ther is alternatives to extreme lockdown, that many here are pushing - south Korea have it pretty much under control and they never went into lockdown - just really fear for the secondary casualties (such as in these reports today:-

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/coronavirus-could-push-half-a-billion-people-into-poverty-oxfam-warns

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52236936


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