CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

Ninthlife · 07-04-2020 01:37PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

They have since gone to ground like a fox.
They’re out there though.they walk among us.bellys full of pasta on them

you meant to say they walk pasta us on the street everyday:pac:

the.red.baron · 07-04-2020 01:37PM

Wibbs wrote: »

G, I would be in full agreement if the HSE were saying this kinda thing in January, but that video was from March, when far more was known and every health authority was saying this is no flu. Yet the HSE expert in this couldn't even get the basic Covid19 symptoms right. Watch the video. He says symptoms like runny nose and sore throat, two symptoms that only present in tiny percentages and that has been specifically known and published widely since early January. Indeed in general the advice elsewhere was that if you did have a snotty nose it probably wasn't covid19. You'd swear he was talking about a head cold.

Never mind the asymptomatic spread which was already known too. The first British "superspreader" was in late January, by mid February German authorities had found one of their superspreaders who was asymptomatic. In Korea they found more again before that. Yet in early March our HSE was advising that if you lived with a potential Covid contact, that unless they had symptoms like a runny nose and sore throat[facepalm] you should live your life as normally as possible.

I'm a thundering gobsh1te at best, but when even a thundering gobhs1te like me can read and understand the basics before the HSE appear to, then I dunno what to say about certain aspects of the same HSE.

Yup and basic temperature checks at ports, but it won't happen unless the WHO suggest it. Independent thought is thin enough on the ground.

you have a serious hard on for that guy, it's ok to admit it, i mean we are all a little horny at the moment

spookwoman · 07-04-2020 01:37PM

https://twitter.com/CovidCountries/status/1247498151759667200?s=20

owlbethere · 07-04-2020 01:37PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Those are not new cases though. The majority were probably infected 2-3 weeks ago. Many are probably cured now. Realistically unless the majority report symptoms, get tested within the hour and get results within the day, then we have no clue what the trends are today, be they up or down and from that its impossible to decide whether to lift restrictions or not.

We definitely need more clarification about cases, like when they tested. We need more up to date figures.

Doctors room ghost · 07-04-2020 01:39PM

Eggs is where it’s at these days.
There isn’t an egg to be got in Connacht and I know full well it’s the pasta/toilet roll bandits that’s buying them up.

mandrake04 · 07-04-2020 01:39PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Things aren't going to be lifted this week, we'll have these restrictions until the end of the month.
But September is another extreme of the scale.

No chance

If you lift restrictions even in a month then you going have more outbreaks and they close the gaff down again so it was pointless opening up in the first place, people thinking they can eradicate this LOL... no way put the foot on the brake and slow it down so it’s manageable. Flattening the curve does exactly that, it squashes it down into a longer timeframe 4-6 months and be grateful at that.

D.Q · 07-04-2020 01:40PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

They have since gone to ground like a fox.
They’re out there though.they walk among us.bellys full of pasta on them

And arses as clean as freshly fallen snow.

07-04-2020 01:41PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

If, as is looking increasingly likely, there is to be a relaxation of the current restrictions, the Govt. should consider bringing Sunday's announcement forward to Friday to allow people to enjoy the BH weekend and perhaps allow some small businesses to start trading again.

where are you getting this from? If we are lucky with may have a slight lifting for the may bank holiday. Will piss rain all weekend if they do

jackboy · 07-04-2020 01:41PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Things aren't going to be lifted this week, we'll have these restrictions until the end of the month.
But September is another extreme of the scale.

No chance

Some restrictions will ease soon but not all of them for a long time. There are a lot more infected people in the population now than when the restrictions were first considered. Numbers would rapidly increase again.

Also, this is just the first wave.

Wibbs · 07-04-2020 01:41PM

the.red.baron wrote: »

you have a serious hard on for that guy, it's ok to admit it, i mean we are all a little horny at the moment

I've a hard on for some of the eejits in the WHO too. I'm easily aroused.

07-04-2020 01:47PM

mandrake04 wrote: »

I can’t see any relaxation of restrictions until September, they need to work on getting the numbers down.... the true numbers not the BS from 1500 tests per day swabbed 2 weeks ago.

There is no way the current restrictions can last until September. The admissions to ICU are stable indicating we are gaining control of the situation. If the current restrictions last until September the damage done will out weigh the cure. For one, 75% of elective procedures have been postponed, once we hit 6 months a lot of these will become critical and we will have a new health emergency. This is before we even talk about the psychological and economic damage

Bobtheman · 07-04-2020 01:47PM

jackboy wrote: »

Some restrictions will ease soon but not all of them for a long time. There are a lot more infected people in the population now than when the restrictions were first considered. Numbers would rapidly increase again.

Also, this is just the first wave.

First wave ? Please clarify?

Inquitus · 07-04-2020 01:47PM

Interesting stats from the National ITU Center in the UK

Median Age of those admitted to ICU 61
50% of those admitted were in the age range 52-70 with 25% under 52 and 25% over 70
Females 27%
Males 73%
50% Death rate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL5qEluaBhc

plodder · 07-04-2020 01:49PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Got my better half to give me a haircut......lets just say thankfully I am not in the office for the next couple of weeks. :D

next time they need to make barbers an essential service:pac:

It reminds me of a tweet my daughter told me about the other day :

"The last few weeks has taught me, the three things I appreciate most in life are:
bars, restaurants, and non-essential services"

owlbethere · 07-04-2020 01:50PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I don't know if being in a high pressure job would have much effect. Stress tends to erroneously be bandied about as a cause for many ailments with little proof. Smoking, perhaps, as it affects the lungs. Drinking... I don't know. Overall. I wouldn't think he was particularly high risk.

Stress doesn't help high blood pressure and hypertension.

I have a home blood pressure monitor. I get good readings in the mornings and then my readings rise over the day. When I sit down to work on my hobby mainly at nighttime and I test again before going to sleep and I get good low readings again. My hobby relaxes me.

B.A._Baracus · 07-04-2020 01:51PM

Hi guys. Sorry if this is a stupid question. I just keep hearing different things. But an increase / surge of covid is expected soon right?

Snow Garden · 07-04-2020 01:51PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Eggs is where it’s at these days.
There isn’t an egg to be got in Connacht and I know full well it’s the pasta/toilet roll bandits that’s buying them up.

There is zero issue with eggs in Galway. Not even once and I have seen shelves fully stocked with eggs in Supervalu, Aldi and Dunnes.

polesheep · 07-04-2020 01:52PM

mandrake04 wrote: »

I can’t see any relaxation of restrictions until September, they need to work on getting the numbers down.... the true numbers not the BS from 1500 tests per day swabbed 2 weeks ago.

By that stage you would more likely be a victim of the riots than of Covid-19.

jackboy · 07-04-2020 01:54PM

Bobtheman wrote: »

First wave ? Please clarify?

It is unlikely that there will be just one wave of this virus. It has spread too far and wide to be eliminated easily. It is probably here for the long term.

Also, it seems thrives in all but the hottest countries so rather than hit us every winter like some flus, it may hit us again at any time.

Fallschirmjager · 07-04-2020 01:54PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Hi guys. Sorry if this is a stupid question. I just keep hearing different things. But an increase / surge of covid is expected soon right?

the belief was that last week/this week/next week would be the surge in numbers other counties have shown. although we have increased numbers its not what they expected (which is a great thing-- rumoured to be expecting 500-600 a day). so it looks like we might have dodged a bullet...at least for now...

edit: the 500-600 was the low number they expected as a result of the lockdown, i think it was double or triple that if we had no lockdown

07-04-2020 01:56PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

There is zero issue with eggs in Galway. Not even once and I have seen shelves fully stocked with eggs in Supervalu, Aldi and Dunnes.

Not the case in Castlebar. Lidl, Aldi and Tesco. Maybe supply issues.

FishOnABike · 07-04-2020 01:57PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There is no way the current restrictions can last until September. The admissions to ICU are stable indicating we are gaining control of the situation. If the current restrictions last until September the damage done will out weigh the cure. For one, 75% of elective procedures have been postponed, once we hit 6 months a lot of these will become critical and we will have a new health emergency. This is before we even talk about the psychological and economic damage

Doesn't that in a way suggest that we need to maintain a tight control over the spread of the coronavirus if there is to be any hope of having the spare capacity to schedule those elective procedures.

If we relax controls too much and numbers of CoViD-19 patients grow not only will we have to work harder to bring the numbers down again but those elective procedures will be put even further in jeopardy.

Redo91 · 07-04-2020 01:57PM

mandrake04 wrote: »

I can’t see any relaxation of restrictions until September, they need to work on getting the numbers down.... the true numbers not the BS from 1500 tests per day swabbed 2 weeks ago.

Not a hope the restrictions as they are will still be in place in September. Gov have consistently said they know they can only have these restrictions in place for a short time. They aren’t sustainable for a number of months. They will gradually be eased off during the summer. September is 5 months away FFS!

Ninthlife · 07-04-2020 01:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not the case in Castlebar. Lidl, Aldi and Tesco. Maybe supply issues.

These are eggceptional times....you've got to eggspect delays or shortages

Doctors room ghost · 07-04-2020 01:58PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

There is zero issue with eggs in Galway. Not even once and I have seen shelves fully stocked with eggs in Supervalu, Aldi and Dunnes.

There wasn’t an egg to be got in Loughrea or Athenry yesterday.thats fact.

kenmc · 07-04-2020 01:58PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

There is zero issue with eggs in Galway. Not even once and I have seen shelves fully stocked with eggs in Supervalu, Aldi and Dunnes.

I've seen empty and nearly empty shelves in both Aldi and Lidl around dundrum d14 over the last couple weeks; intermittent supply rather than no supply. This is first thing in the morning typically, not only late in the day

New Home · 07-04-2020 02:00PM

Hens on strike. Just what we needed...

quokula · 07-04-2020 02:01PM

My milkman delivers eggs with the milk, always has. Been no change from usual for us.

FishOnABike · 07-04-2020 02:04PM

I think egg supplies were hit by an outbreak of bird flu around the beginning of March.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/news/farming/articles/2020/03/11/4187048-farmer-culls-450000-chickens-due-to-bird-flu/

Apart from limited supplies of local free range eggs, eggs have been scarcer than toilet roll or pasta for the last few weeks. I've only started to see them back on the shelves in any numbers in the last week.

Rob A. Bank · 07-04-2020 02:04PM

WHO-China Joint Mission International Members

Bruce AYLWARD Team Lead WHO-China Joint Mission on COVID-19, Senior Advisor to the Director-General, World Health Organization, Geneva, Switzerland
Tim ECKMANNS Head of Unit, Healthcare-associated Infections, Surveillance of Antibiotic Resistance and Consumption, Robert Koch Institute, Berlin, Germany
Dale FISHER Professor of Medicine, Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine, National University of Singapore, Singapore, Singapore
Chikwe IHEKWEAZU Director General, Nigeria Centre for Disease Control, Nigeria Centre for Disease Control, Abuja, Nigeria
Clifford LANE Clinical Director, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, US National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, United States
Jong-Koo LEE Professor of Family Medicine, Seoul National University College of Medicine, Seoul, Republic of Korea
Natalia PSHENICHNAYA Head of International Department and Consultant, Center of Infectious Diseases, National Medical Research Center of Phthisiopulmonology and Infectious Diseases, Moscow, Russia
Aleksandr SEMENOV Deputy Director, Saint Petersburg Pasteur Institute, Saint Petersburg, Russia
Hitoshi TAKAHASHI Senior Research Scientist, Influenza Virus Research Center, National Institute of Infectious Diseases, Tokyo, Japan
Maria VAN KERKHOVE Head of Unit, Emerging Diseases & Zoonoses, Global Infectious Hazard Preparedness, World Health Organization, Geneva, Switzerland
Jun XING Head of Unit, Country Capacity for International Health Regulations, Health Security Preparedness, World Health Organization, Geneva, Switzerland
Weigong ZHOU Medical Officer, Influenza Division, National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, United States

Above are the international members of the WHO team which went to China to investigate the Covid-19 Pandemic. They were allowed to go wherever they wanted to go in China during their investigation. The team began in Beijing and then split into two groups that, all told, traveled to Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chengdu, and the hardest hit city, Wuhan. They visited hospitals, laboratories, companies, wet markets selling live animals, train stations, and local government offices.

Their report was unequivocal. “China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic,” it says. “This decline in COVID-19 cases across China is real.”

To suggest that the wool was pulled over the eyes of the world's best infection experts is quite frankly ridiculous. The epidemic in China followed the normal expected infection curve, as can be seen when Dr Bruce Aylward presented their findings.

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The shutdown was real too, as can be seen from air pollution on the satellite images.

16x9

The Chinese draconian measures delayed the spread of this nasty virus for about a month. If all the infected Chinese had spread out all over the world at the end of their Lunar New Year... we would have had Italy on steroids everywhere, without the time to prepare, about a month ago.

The evidence suggests China has been truthful about this new virus, even though they have been economical with the truth about other issues.

So enough of this Sinophobic sh*t which appears on practically every page on this board... "you can't believe a word they say" etc. etc.

CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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