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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #8582
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭plodder


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    Nobody in my family bar my mum who was born in the 50s in Dublin have it. My sister got the injection when she went into nursing. I teach in a primary school and I remember last summer one of the children in my class got the vaccine done in Hungary and her mum said she was surprised they don’t do it automatically here anymore.
    None of my Cork friends have it but when I went to college in Dublin everybody seemed to have it there.

    I’m sceptical anyway.

    https://dh.tcd.ie/pricediary/about-dorothy-price-her-family/dorothy-stopford-price-and-the-irish-tuberculosis-epidemic/

    TB was rampant here up to the 50's and the article above suggests that BCG started here in the 1950's. I got it in the late 60's.


  • #8583
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Just say I'm so so so sorry Kermit.

    Your posts are informative.
    agreed 100%. Even if I dissagreed with with some of your posts. Free speech is more important now than ever, we do not want to become like some governments, silencing people.


  • #8584
    boombang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭boombang


    UK did a catch up BCG programme in the mid 1990s.


  • #8585
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    ThePopehimself wrote: »
    The HSE should have stepped in and found a way to buy every single mask from Irema, the surgical mask company in co. Limerick back in February.

    By the beginning of March, Irema were making 1.3 Million Masks a week and were increasing that to 2.6 Million masks a week.

    They were exporting “most of the masks internationally to western Europe and the Middle East and also selling to China.”


    The HSE really missed the boat on that one.

    Imagine if they had bought all the Irema Masks for just 4 weeks in a row – we would now have 10.6 Million surgical and Respirator Masks.

    I heard in the briefing 2 nights ago that they are going to negotiate with a company in Limerick. (Should have happened weeks ago)

    March 3rd:
    ‘Limerick Firm reaping benefits of soaring Face Mask Demand Around World’
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/limerick-firm-reaping-benefits-of-soaring-face-mask-demand-around-world-985474.html

    A couple of questions and comments:

    If the pandemic never occurred, you are the type of poster who would have said look at how much money ireland wasted on buying them.

    Ireland produces something like 50% of the worlds ventilators, should we be buying these in bulk now - so that we can make money on them? I would have though the human thing would have been to ensure countries in the world that need them - we ensure they get them so that innocent people don’t die needlessly. Would you be happy if ireland spent hundreds of millions buying them up and storing them???

    Amazes me how many experts we have in this country posting on boards, Ireland sourced the PPE from a WHO approved sourced - can you can l confirm if the limerick company for instance is WHO approved in what they sell? Or does that matter?


  • #8586
    Itsalladdingup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭Itsalladdingup


    Bob24 wrote: »
    The cooking process would kill if for sure. But droplet can come onto the food after the cooking process and while it’s being packaged for takeaway (plus since we are talking about burgers, not all ingredients are cooked).

    That’s exactly my thinking when it comes to takeaways. Pizza etc will be grand once it’s cooked and hot, but if someone coughs on the box as theyre closing it .....


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  • #8587
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭circadian


    plodder wrote: »
    Most people over the age of five got it. It was standard for all children to get it up to 2015

    Apparently, there are (and were) no universal BCG vax programs in Italy, USA, UK(?) or Netherlands. All countries with high levels of infection.

    I had the BCG in NI, I think it's pretty standard in the UK.


  • #8588
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    rusty the athlete wrote: »
    Interesting piece in today's UK Independent:
    Trump 'severely mentally troubled' and must resign from coronavirus response, mental health group warns

    World Mental Health Coalition urges president's impeachment or resignation for 'dangerous detachment to reality' that is making pandemic worse


    See also https://worldmhc.org/.


    Since this clown is putting us all in jeopardy I thought it relevant to post.





    We've plenty of our own clowns in government including those who say we need a lockdown but then fly in people from hotspots like New York and London and allow them into the community.


  • #8589
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭plodder


    boombang wrote: »
    UK did a catch up BCG programme in the mid 1990s.
    Iran started in the late 80's, presumably (both) with children only. Iran is badly affected too as the older population weren't immunised. I guess it will be the same here among the over 70's


  • #8590
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    auspicious wrote: »
    CNN report
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/03/americas/guayaquil-ecuador-overwhelmed-coronavirus-intl/index.html

    Twitter vids
    https://mobile.twitter.com/bottawestpoint/status/1245392930967347200

    Is this legit?


    Bloody hell. I’ve been to Guayaquil. It’s a fairly wealthy city. That’s awful.


  • #8591
    mick987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    circadian wrote: »
    I had the BCG in NI, I think it's pretty standard in the UK.

    How long is the BCG effective for?. If you got it 20 years ago does it still work or does it wear out overtime?


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  • #8592
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Christ. People in some parts of the world are really going to suffer. We live like emperors on this low population density, clean island, with excellent amenities and a brilliant standard of living. We complain all the time but seeing other places.... really, we should be so grateful. I would freak out if I had to live in so many of these poor and densely populated places in the world. Have no idea how the people there will manage a pandemic. It is frightening.


    Guayaquil is not a poor city.


  • #8593
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Thank God we have Danny Healy-Rae

    And eamon Ryan


  • #8594
    Comhrá
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    And eamon Ryan

    And now Alan Kelly as leader of Labour


  • #8595
    touts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭touts


    ThePopehimself wrote: »
    The HSE should have stepped in and found a way to buy every single mask from Irema, the surgical mask company in co. Limerick back in February.

    By the beginning of March, Irema were making 1.3 Million Masks a week and were increasing that to 2.6 Million masks a week.

    They were exporting “most of the masks internationally to western Europe and the Middle East and also selling to China.”


    The HSE really missed the boat on that one.

    Imagine if they had bought all the Irema Masks for just 4 weeks in a row – we would now have 10.6 Million surgical and Respirator Masks.

    I heard in the briefing 2 nights ago that they are going to negotiate with a company in Limerick. (Should have happened weeks ago)

    March 3rd:
    ‘Limerick Firm reaping benefits of soaring Face Mask Demand Around World’
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/limerick-firm-reaping-benefits-of-soaring-face-mask-demand-around-world-985474.html

    You're right. We should have immediately hoarded all PPE made in this country and told other countries to go **** themselves.

    But that would make it slightly difficult to get things like gloves and masks and gowns as it's likely the countries we told to **** off would tell us to **** off also. But maybe we could tell Irish doctors and nurses to wrap masks around their hands to make do as gloves. And we could get the ICA in to sew a few million masks together into gowns.

    When your neighbourhood is burning there is no point in telling your neighbour you have the only tap and you're keeping all the water if they have the only hose.


  • #8596
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    touts wrote: »
    You're right. We should have immediately hoarded all PPE made in this country and told other countries to go **** themselves.

    But that would make it slightly difficult to get things like gloves and masks and gowns as it's likely the countries we told to **** off would tell us to **** off also. But maybe we could tell Irish doctors and nurses to wrap masks around their hands to make do as gloves. And we could get the ICA in to sew a few million masks together into gowns.

    When your neighbourhood is burning there is no point in telling your neighbour you have the only tap and you're keeping all the water if they have the only hose.

    What in gods name .... how many idiots are in the world ...including yourself :rolleyes:


  • #8597
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    I read an article today about the BCG vaccine for TB being linked to protection against Co-vid19. .

    I thought a lot of people born in Dublin already had this vaccine and am I mistaken that healthcare workers are required to have this injection?
    A quick way of knowing if you’ve received this injection is it leaves a circular scarring on your upper arm.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/tuberculosis-vaccine-potential-game-changer-in-covid-19-fight-1.4220383?mode=amp

    I can't find the circular scarring. But I'm sure I got it in the early 90s. Does anyone remember getting a vaccine in school? Was this the BCG?


  • #8598
    Glenbhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    mick987 wrote: »
    How long is the BCG effective for?. If you got it 20 years ago does it still work or does it wear out overtime?

    It needs topped up, but I wouldnt be getting my hopes up too much. The researcher points out that this is very tentative and that there are likely to be many other considerations, for example countries that had bcg programmes may have better public health facilities in general and so on. Also he cited Japan as inspiring the research, which suggests it may be outdated at this stage given the European numbers, where I suspect most countries had bcg programmes in place from the 50s/60s.


  • #8599
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I can't find the circular scarring. But I'm sure I got it in the early 90s. Does anyone remember getting a vaccine in school? Was this the BCG?

    Rubella was given in school when you were 12/13

    BCG was a baby/ toddler vaccine iirc

    I have the mark's but dont remember getting it


  • #8600
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    fits wrote: »
    Guayaquil is not a poor city.

    It very evidently has very poor parts. In fact it is known for its brightly painted slums. A slum is a slum. I'm not intending to pick on Ecuador; poor areas and rich areas can co exist anywhere. Los Angeles has slums, Paris has very poor densely populated areas, Delhi has incredibly beautiful parts to the city and spots of unimaginable luxury.
    Anyways, what I saw in those videos is horrible. Burning left out bodies in the public streets. Nightmare.


  • #8601
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I can't find the circular scarring. But I'm sure I got it in the early 90s. Does anyone remember getting a vaccine in school? Was this the BCG?

    what the **** are you talking about , just be lucky everything is in front of you for this epidermic rather the one you have in mind you idiot :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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  • #8602
    touts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭touts


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    What in gods name .... how many idiots are in the world ...including yourself :rolleyes:

    So you genuinely think the answer in this situation is for each country to hoard stuff it makes and stop all international trade. You missed the last 50 years of globalisation didn't you?


  • #8603
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    touts wrote: »
    So you genuinely think the answer in this situation is for each country to hoard stuff it makes and stop all international trade. You missed the last 50 years of globalisation didn't you?

    what ? stop talking ****e


  • #8604
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Gynoid wrote: »
    It very evidently has very poor parts. In fact it is known for its brightly painted slums. A slum is a slum. I'm not intending to pick on Ecuador; poor areas and rich areas can co exist anywhere. Los Angeles has slums, Paris has very poor densely populated areas, Delhi has incredibly beautiful parts to the city and spots of unimaginable luxury.
    Anyways, what I saw in those videos is horrible. Burning left out bodies in the public streets. Nightmare.


    Oh it definitely does have poor parts but make no mistake -It is far from being a poor city. It is much more wealthy than much of surrounding region. that video is terribly shocking.


  • #8605
    Tokyo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,656 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    what the **** are you talking about , just be lucky everything is in front of you for this epidermic rather the one you have in mind you idiot :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    what ? stop talking ****e

    Mod: Wind it in. You can get your point across without resorting to name calling.


  • #8606
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    what the **** are you talking about , just be lucky everything is in front of you for this epidermic rather the one you have in mind you idiot :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Another moody person having a go at random people on the internet. Is the isolation getting to you?


  • #8607
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    What in gods name .... how many idiots are in the world ...including yourself :rolleyes:

    Personal abuse cause you can’t handle the truth?

    He’s right - the attitude of posters on here is that ireland should buy up as keep/sell at high profit PPE - just read the posts a few pages back.

    Imagine if we adopted this attitude, and then next order of medicine or food we order, we get a reply that x country in no longer selling to ireland because of us hoarding important front line PPE equipment. Imagine the uproar against the government then....

    Ireland is an island - we need the world a lot more than they need us - uk and USA have car manufacturers offering to make ventilators. How many companies in Ireland are offering to make PPE? Instead of basing the government? You have big drink companies making hand sanitizer -

    Other than O’Neill’s I haven’t heard any big company in ireland offering to make PPE in big numbers -


  • #8608
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    I appreciate the “be kind” narrative around at the moment and echo it completely but it’s a struggle at times with the complete crap some people spout 😂


  • #8609
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Just saw some guy stuff plastic gloves down a drain after coming out of a Lidl.

    This is a sign of why Government have to bring in tight measures. Some people are complete idiots and self absorbed.


  • #8610
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Stheno wrote: »
    Rubella was given in school when you were 12/13

    BCG was a baby/ toddler vaccine iirc

    I have the mark's but dont remember getting it

    Thanks I was thinking of rubella that was given in the schools.


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  • #8611
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Personal abuse cause you can’t handle the truth?

    He’s right - the attitude of posters on here is that ireland should buy up as keep/sell at high profit PPE - just read the posts a few pages back.

    Imagine if we adopted this attitude, and then next order of medicine or food we order, we get a reply that x country in no longer selling to ireland because of us hoarding important front line PPE equipment. Imagine the uproar against the government then....

    Ireland is an island - we need the world a lot more than they need us - uk and USA have car manufacturers offering to make ventilators. How many companies in Ireland are offering to make PPE? Instead of basing the government? You have big drink companies making hand sanitizer -

    Other than O’Neill’s I haven’t heard any big company in ireland offering to make PPE in big numbers -


    this is exactly the type of person i am talking about ......idiot


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