CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

plodder · 04-04-2020 08:00AM

boombang wrote: »

UK did a catch up BCG programme in the mid 1990s.

Iran started in the late 80's, presumably (both) with children only. Iran is badly affected too as the older population weren't immunised. I guess it will be the same here among the over 70's

fits · 04-04-2020 08:02AM

auspicious wrote: »

CNN report
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/03/americas/guayaquil-ecuador-overwhelmed-coronavirus-intl/index.html

Twitter vids
https://mobile.twitter.com/bottawestpoint/status/1245392930967347200

Is this legit?

Bloody hell. I’ve been to Guayaquil. It’s a fairly wealthy city. That’s awful.

mick987 · 04-04-2020 08:02AM

circadian wrote: »

I had the BCG in NI, I think it's pretty standard in the UK.

How long is the BCG effective for?. If you got it 20 years ago does it still work or does it wear out overtime?

fits · 04-04-2020 08:05AM

Gynoid wrote: »

Christ. People in some parts of the world are really going to suffer. We live like emperors on this low population density, clean island, with excellent amenities and a brilliant standard of living. We complain all the time but seeing other places.... really, we should be so grateful. I would freak out if I had to live in so many of these poor and densely populated places in the world. Have no idea how the people there will manage a pandemic. It is frightening.

Guayaquil is not a poor city.

Widdensushi · 04-04-2020 08:06AM

Happy4all wrote: »

Thank God we have Danny Healy-Rae

And eamon Ryan

Comhrá · 04-04-2020 08:09AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

And eamon Ryan

And now Alan Kelly as leader of Labour

touts · 04-04-2020 08:10AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

The HSE should have stepped in and found a way to buy every single mask from Irema, the surgical mask company in co. Limerick back in February.

By the beginning of March, Irema were making 1.3 Million Masks a week and were increasing that to 2.6 Million masks a week.

They were exporting “most of the masks internationally to western Europe and the Middle East and also selling to China.”

The HSE really missed the boat on that one.

Imagine if they had bought all the Irema Masks for just 4 weeks in a row – we would now have 10.6 Million surgical and Respirator Masks.

I heard in the briefing 2 nights ago that they are going to negotiate with a company in Limerick. (Should have happened weeks ago)

March 3rd:
‘Limerick Firm reaping benefits of soaring Face Mask Demand Around World’
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/limerick-firm-reaping-benefits-of-soaring-face-mask-demand-around-world-985474.html

You're right. We should have immediately hoarded all PPE made in this country and told other countries to go **** themselves.

But that would make it slightly difficult to get things like gloves and masks and gowns as it's likely the countries we told to **** off would tell us to **** off also. But maybe we could tell Irish doctors and nurses to wrap masks around their hands to make do as gloves. And we could get the ICA in to sew a few million masks together into gowns.

When your neighbourhood is burning there is no point in telling your neighbour you have the only tap and you're keeping all the water if they have the only hose.

windy shepard henderson · 04-04-2020 08:13AM

touts wrote: »

You're right. We should have immediately hoarded all PPE made in this country and told other countries to go **** themselves.

But that would make it slightly difficult to get things like gloves and masks and gowns as it's likely the countries we told to **** off would tell us to **** off also. But maybe we could tell Irish doctors and nurses to wrap masks around their hands to make do as gloves. And we could get the ICA in to sew a few million masks together into gowns.

When your neighbourhood is burning there is no point in telling your neighbour you have the only tap and you're keeping all the water if they have the only hose.

What in gods name .... how many idiots are in the world ...including yourself :rolleyes:

Away With The Fairies · 04-04-2020 08:14AM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I read an article today about the BCG vaccine for TB being linked to protection against Co-vid19. .

I thought a lot of people born in Dublin already had this vaccine and am I mistaken that healthcare workers are required to have this injection?
A quick way of knowing if you’ve received this injection is it leaves a circular scarring on your upper arm.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/tuberculosis-vaccine-potential-game-changer-in-covid-19-fight-1.4220383?mode=amp

I can't find the circular scarring. But I'm sure I got it in the early 90s. Does anyone remember getting a vaccine in school? Was this the BCG?

Glenbhoy · 04-04-2020 08:16AM

mick987 wrote: »

How long is the BCG effective for?. If you got it 20 years ago does it still work or does it wear out overtime?

It needs topped up, but I wouldnt be getting my hopes up too much. The researcher points out that this is very tentative and that there are likely to be many other considerations, for example countries that had bcg programmes may have better public health facilities in general and so on. Also he cited Japan as inspiring the research, which suggests it may be outdated at this stage given the European numbers, where I suspect most countries had bcg programmes in place from the 50s/60s.

Stheno · 04-04-2020 08:16AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I can't find the circular scarring. But I'm sure I got it in the early 90s. Does anyone remember getting a vaccine in school? Was this the BCG?

Rubella was given in school when you were 12/13

BCG was a baby/ toddler vaccine iirc

I have the mark's but dont remember getting it

Gynoid · 04-04-2020 08:16AM

fits wrote: »

Guayaquil is not a poor city.

It very evidently has very poor parts. In fact it is known for its brightly painted slums. A slum is a slum. I'm not intending to pick on Ecuador; poor areas and rich areas can co exist anywhere. Los Angeles has slums, Paris has very poor densely populated areas, Delhi has incredibly beautiful parts to the city and spots of unimaginable luxury.
Anyways, what I saw in those videos is horrible. Burning left out bodies in the public streets. Nightmare.

windy shepard henderson · 04-04-2020 08:17AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I can't find the circular scarring. But I'm sure I got it in the early 90s. Does anyone remember getting a vaccine in school? Was this the BCG?

what the **** are you talking about , just be lucky everything is in front of you for this epidermic rather the one you have in mind you idiot :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

touts · 04-04-2020 08:18AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

What in gods name .... how many idiots are in the world ...including yourself :rolleyes:

So you genuinely think the answer in this situation is for each country to hoard stuff it makes and stop all international trade. You missed the last 50 years of globalisation didn't you?

windy shepard henderson · 04-04-2020 08:19AM

touts wrote: »

So you genuinely think the answer in this situation is for each country to hoard stuff it makes and stop all international trade. You missed the last 50 years of globalisation didn't you?

what ? stop talking ****e

fits · 04-04-2020 08:21AM

Gynoid wrote: »

It very evidently has very poor parts. In fact it is known for its brightly painted slums. A slum is a slum. I'm not intending to pick on Ecuador; poor areas and rich areas can co exist anywhere. Los Angeles has slums, Paris has very poor densely populated areas, Delhi has incredibly beautiful parts to the city and spots of unimaginable luxury.
Anyways, what I saw in those videos is horrible. Burning left out bodies in the public streets. Nightmare.

Oh it definitely does have poor parts but make no mistake -It is far from being a poor city. It is much more wealthy than much of surrounding region. that video is terribly shocking.

Tokyo · 04-04-2020 08:22AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

what the **** are you talking about , just be lucky everything is in front of you for this epidermic rather the one you have in mind you idiot :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

what ? stop talking ****e

Mod: Wind it in. You can get your point across without resorting to name calling.

Away With The Fairies · 04-04-2020 08:22AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

what the **** are you talking about , just be lucky everything is in front of you for this epidermic rather the one you have in mind you idiot :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Another moody person having a go at random people on the internet. Is the isolation getting to you?

Ace2007 · 04-04-2020 08:23AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

What in gods name .... how many idiots are in the world ...including yourself :rolleyes:

Personal abuse cause you can’t handle the truth?

He’s right - the attitude of posters on here is that ireland should buy up as keep/sell at high profit PPE - just read the posts a few pages back.

Imagine if we adopted this attitude, and then next order of medicine or food we order, we get a reply that x country in no longer selling to ireland because of us hoarding important front line PPE equipment. Imagine the uproar against the government then....

Ireland is an island - we need the world a lot more than they need us - uk and USA have car manufacturers offering to make ventilators. How many companies in Ireland are offering to make PPE? Instead of basing the government? You have big drink companies making hand sanitizer -

Other than O’Neill’s I haven’t heard any big company in ireland offering to make PPE in big numbers -

kingshankly · 04-04-2020 08:23AM

I appreciate the “be kind” narrative around at the moment and echo it completely but it’s a struggle at times with the complete crap some people spout 😂

DM_7 · 04-04-2020 08:24AM

Just saw some guy stuff plastic gloves down a drain after coming out of a Lidl.

This is a sign of why Government have to bring in tight measures. Some people are complete idiots and self absorbed.

Away With The Fairies · 04-04-2020 08:24AM

Stheno wrote: »

Rubella was given in school when you were 12/13

BCG was a baby/ toddler vaccine iirc

I have the mark's but dont remember getting it

Thanks I was thinking of rubella that was given in the schools.

windy shepard henderson · 04-04-2020 08:24AM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Personal abuse cause you can’t handle the truth?

He’s right - the attitude of posters on here is that ireland should buy up as keep/sell at high profit PPE - just read the posts a few pages back.

Imagine if we adopted this attitude, and then next order of medicine or food we order, we get a reply that x country in no longer selling to ireland because of us hoarding important front line PPE equipment. Imagine the uproar against the government then....

Ireland is an island - we need the world a lot more than they need us - uk and USA have car manufacturers offering to make ventilators. How many companies in Ireland are offering to make PPE? Instead of basing the government? You have big drink companies making hand sanitizer -

Other than O’Neill’s I haven’t heard any big company in ireland offering to make PPE in big numbers -

this is exactly the type of person i am talking about ......idiot

pc7 · 04-04-2020 08:25AM

I got it in the 70’s one of my smallies got it but second didn’t as post 2015.

windy shepard henderson · 04-04-2020 08:27AM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Personal abuse cause you can’t handle the truth?

He’s right - the attitude of posters on here is that ireland should buy up as keep/sell at high profit PPE - just read the posts a few pages back.

Imagine if we adopted this attitude, and then next order of medicine or food we order, we get a reply that x country in no longer selling to ireland because of us hoarding important front line PPE equipment. Imagine the uproar against the government then....

Ireland is an island - we need the world a lot more than they need us - uk and USA have car manufacturers offering to make ventilators. How many companies in Ireland are offering to make PPE? Instead of basing the government? You have big drink companies making hand sanitizer -

Other than O’Neill’s I haven’t heard any big company in ireland offering to make PPE in big numbers -

of course we should have bought a **** load of masks we didnt need in early febuary well said you clown .....

Tokyo · 04-04-2020 08:30AM

Mod: @windy shepard henderson - don't post in this thread again.

deise08 · 04-04-2020 08:30AM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Personal abuse cause you can’t handle the truth?

He’s right - the attitude of posters on here is that ireland should buy up as keep/sell at high profit PPE - just read the posts a few pages back.

Other than O’Neill’s I haven’t heard any big company in ireland offering to make PPE in big numbers -

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/03/31/azzurri-to-produce-free-face-masks/

First two paragraphs..

A WATERFORD company has stepped up to the mark in the protective face masks shortage by pledging to supply 5,000 free masks produced in-house to nursing homes and healthcare organisations in the South East.

In response to the crisis Apparel Supply Solutions – Azzurri Sport has developed a washable, re-usable protective face-mask to assist in the protection of healthcare workers against Covid-19.

snoopboggybog · 04-04-2020 08:31AM

The best thing you can have is an A4 pad in front of your face stayed in place by a hoody. Wash your hands and rip off pages. Want a pair of goggles as well in fairness.

Yea you heard it here first. More effective than any mask in my opinion.

Maybe a bit of tape to hold it around your face depending on the hoodie.

Ace2007 · 04-04-2020 08:32AM

deise08 wrote: »

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/03/31/azzurri-to-produce-free-face-masks/

Nice to see, buts it’s a local business helping on a local scale - why are big companies in ireland not making them on wide scale production?

04-04-2020 08:33AM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

Nobody in my family bar my mum who was born in the 50s in Dublin have it. My sister got the injection when she went into nursing. I teach in a primary school and I remember last summer one of the children in my class got the vaccine done in Hungary and her mum said she was surprised they don’t do it automatically here anymore.
None of my Cork friends have it but when I went to college in Dublin everybody seemed to have it there.

I’m sceptical anyway.

The Southern Health board ceased the bcg vaccine for about two decades so loads in munster region wouldn't have gotten it. I'm not the most confident in it preventing tbh.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP