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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #7172
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/
    You really think it can't get any more insane and then..
    Police and military in the Phillipines ordered to shoot dead anyone disobeying lockdown procedures


  • #7173
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Looks like some of the Chinese PPE gear we got on Sunday is not up to scratch, hope they kept the receipt...




    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0403/1128209-nphet-to-meet-to-plan-next-moves-in-covid-19-fight/

    If the Earth was an Arse, China would be the boil on said Arse.


  • #7174
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    macmahon wrote: »
    Coronavirus or covid19 specifically?

    No idea, I just put the numbers beside the country's so that there numbers where were my numbers was but in a different place not like on there website or anything but on my post beside the countrie's they had on the website of there's that I sourced my references from were they where like. There ain't no way I'm not never gonna make a mistake with numbers an' stuff 'cos numbers never lie and the country's what were them numbers was from couldn't of moved so it must be right.

    The perceptive reader may garner, not without foundation, that I've seasoned my response with an element of wit (as I would describe it).


  • #7175
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    macmahon wrote: »
    Is Tubby bear covid19 or just coronavirus?

    Think media said it was covid 19. But seriously are people even differentiating between the two. Used to have dettol here in the house that said it killed Coronavirus so that virus has obviously been around a while and this new one covid 19 is a different strand.


  • #7176
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/
    You really think it can't get any more insane and then..
    Police and military in the Phillipines ordered to shoot dead anyone disobeying lockdown procedures

    Bit of a step up from the slap on the arse from a stick in India


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  • #7177
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Is "Plandemic" something clever you came up with, or did you genuinely misspell it?

    Im very clever with my spelling!...I never lie!


  • #7178
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    macmahon wrote: »
    Im very clever with my spelling!...I never lie!

    I’m not having a go, I’m just intrigued. Pland as in bland? you just added an L in there to make it fit? or the more obvious one, this was all engineered as a weapon from China?


  • #7179
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Looks like some of the Chinese PPE gear we got on Sunday is not up to scratch, hope they kept the receipt...
    He was speaking in a video on Twitter following concerns about the content of the first batch of Personal Protective Equipment for healthcare staff that has been arriving on Aer Lingus flights from China since last Sunday.

    The HSE said that although the equipment being delivered is up to World Health Organization standards, and will work to protect healthcare staff, it is not the type of equipment that Irish healthcare staff have been used to.

    There are concerns that the equipment may be more robust and heavy duty than nurses and doctors expected.

    There have also been complaints from some nursing quarters that the protective gowns in the shipment are too small and the face masks of poor quality.



    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0403/1128209-nphet-to-meet-to-plan-next-moves-in-covid-19-fight/


    That's terrible if that is the case. What does more robust mean anyway? Maybe it means more robust like the way the virus was more robust than the expected and infected all those healthcare workers. 25% of total cases at last count. Maybe it's more effective.

    Seems like deflection from the fact they weren't protected adequately as there were shortages.

    We should put in an order from Germany. Oh wait we can't can we.


  • #7180
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/
    You really think it can't get any more insane and then..
    Police and military in the Phillipines ordered to shoot dead anyone disobeying lockdown procedures

    Someone shared a video here the other day of a hospital in Southern Italy, the corridor was partitioned( different categories of patients at either side ) with yellow tape and the security officer manning it had a gun in his pocket.., inside a hospital!


  • #7181
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    Naos wrote: »
    It isn't (overrunning our health system currently) because of the measures we've put in place and the majority of people are adhering too.

    Thankyou...I will stick that in my pipe and smoke it!


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  • #7182
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,062 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    That's terrible if that is the case. What does more robust mean anyway? Maybe it means more robust like the way the virus was more robust than the expected and infected all those healthcare workers. 25% of total cases at last count. Maybe it's more effective.

    Seems like deflection from the fact they weren't protected adequately as there were shortages.

    We should put in an order from Germany. Oh wait we can't can we.

    Probably means it's more like cartridge based re-usable respirators than light weight FFP3 masks. Which may not be a bad thing if you look at what the Italians are now suiting up in to protect health care workers - full face covering mask with cartridges. I believe the Italians have had no health worker infections after suiting up to airborne protocol standards.


  • #7183
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I warned of this.

    China's intention to capitalise on a disaster of their own making by pretending to be the knights in shining armor to other countries is nothing more than a publicity stunt.

    Equipment is useless, send it back like everyone else.

    I remember people on here were arguing that iphones are made in China so no way that this PPE will be bad quality


  • #7184
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Over 10% of all recorded Covid 19 deaths were reported in the last 24 hours


  • #7185
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/
    You really think it can't get any more insane and then..
    Police and military in the Phillipines ordered to shoot dead anyone disobeying lockdown procedures
    He means shoot to kill, he has previous.

    In fairness he's ruling over a widely spread archipelago, with more than 10 ethnic groups, a virtually autonomous Mindanao which was in a state of civil war from '45 till recently, plus an simmering ISIS problem.

    Any sign of weakness and it's a mess, it's disobeying his edict that's the problem not necessarily COVID-19 related per se.


  • #7186
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    I'd say July at the earliest and then another shutdown in October for longer this time with the much more letal second wave.

    Well those stats add up! Well done BanditLuke! Do you care enough to spill?


  • #7187
    The Oort Cloud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭The Oort Cloud


    I have to say, this abode here is like it was magically transported to the deep country.

    I never heard it so quiet/calm. I'm so used to aircraft noise but this is like the twilight zone for the last week absolutely noiseless, earily beautiful. Just like that twilight zone episode when the woman found the watch to stop time.

    Finally the noise of engines and drilling has stopped. I'm not living in the sticks, but for this beautiful time... I may as well be. Have you noticed waking up at 5am without the low drone of aircraft engine noise? Or if you live on a busy road and are now realising how quiet it is for once in a generation of complete quietness?

    Do you like it or hate it?.

    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



  • #7188
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    citysights wrote: »
    Someone shared a video here the other day of a hospital in Southern Italy, the corridor was partitioned( different categories of patients at either side ) with yellow tape and the security officer manning it had a gun in his pocket.., inside a hospital!

    Security men in hospitals all over the world have guns


  • #7189
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Yes. Me too.

    I'm just highlighting how something like a pandemic has cross cutting concerns. Whatever field you are interested in, it will affect it.

    I guess for me, that's what makes it interesting.
    But hey, this is how I survive, I'm quite detached from things. Even in tough times.

    A fellow spectator!


  • #7190
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    A good point here from Tony H today

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/coronavirus-ireland-dr-tony-holohan-21803715

    Now that the lockdown is in full effect, and the contacts from new cases is down to a few, the disease is now transmitted in households rather than in the community.

    As a result, it'll take a few weeks for all new isolating cases to transmit the virus to the other members of their household. Community transmission is fairly limited with all the social distancing and quarantine measures. Obviously there will be exceptions such as healthcare workers, frontline staff etc.

    But it does paint a good picture for a few weeks time, when affected households will have had the virus run its course within the house and inter household transmission has been cut to a minimum.

    The big question is what happens when restrictions start easing.


  • #7191
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    macmahon wrote: »
    Well those stats add up! Well done BanditLuke! Do you care enough to spill?
    Possibly you mistakenly ^equated^ boards with facebook or twitter.

    Your contributions since joining are either facetious or coronavirus error fixated.


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  • #7192
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The Oort Cloud wrote: »
    I have to say, this abode here is like it was magically transported to the deep country.

    I never heard it so quiet/calm. I'm so used to aircraft noise but this is like the twilight zone for the last week absolutely noiseless, earily beautiful. Just like that twilight zone episode when the woman found the watch to stop time.

    Finally the noise of engines and drilling has stopped. I'm not living in the sticks, but for this beautiful time... I may as well be. Have you noticed waking up at 5am without the low drone of aircraft engine noise? Or if you live on a busy road and are now realising how quiet it is for once in a generation of complete quietness?

    Do you like it or hate it?.

    I live on the flight path for Cork Airport, and it's quite eerie at the minute now that we're down to 2 takeoffs and landings per day.

    The roads seem just as loud although given the traffic volumes are lighter and the proportion of heavy vehicles is bigger it may just be a different noise that we're not used to.

    It does seem odd looking up at a clear sky like today and no sign of any aircraft contrails.


  • #7193
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Security men in hospitals all over the world have guns

    Not in Ireland.


  • #7194
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    marno21 wrote: »
    I live on the flight path for Cork Airport, and it's quite eerie at the minute now that we're down to 2 takeoffs and landings per day.

    The roads seem just as loud although given the traffic volumes are lighter and the proportion of heavy vehicles is bigger it may just be a different noise that we're not used to.

    It does seem odd looking up at a clear sky like today and no sign of any aircraft contrails.

    Remember when the volcano in Iceland erupted, no planes in the sky at all.
    Very odd as I was in the centre of London at the time.


  • #7195
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    marno21 wrote: »
    A good point here from Tony H today

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/coronavirus-ireland-dr-tony-holohan-21803715

    Now that the lockdown is in full effect, and the contacts from new cases is down to a few, the disease is now transmitted in households rather than in the community.

    As a result, it'll take a few weeks for all new isolating cases to transmit the virus to the other members of their household. Community transmission is fairly limited with all the social distancing and quarantine measures. Obviously there will be exceptions such as healthcare workers, frontline staff etc.

    But it does paint a good picture for a few weeks time, when affected households will have had the virus run its course within the house and inter household transmission has been cut to a minimum.

    The big question is what happens when restrictions start easing.


    It's a good question ; one would assume though that if we're down to zero new cases a day, it would be very difficult for the virus to reinfect thousands of people across the country again. It had the element of surprise last time but no more.


  • #7196
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    amadangomor wrote: »
    If we had done nothing and had no restrictions you would have seen exponential growth. Our ICU's would be overwhelmed by now and we would have many excess deaths.

    Being realistic there is still a good chance even with the restrictions we have in place that we will get to a stage where our health service will be overwhelmed in a few weeks. Then we will see those excess deaths.

    It's that serious!

    Seriously! We are piggy in the middle in this war and no one here in Ireland is seeing it?


  • #7197
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    citysights wrote: »
    Not in Ireland.

    We have had on many occasions. After London bombings, during troubles. I could continue

    Its scary times but don't try make it all a drama


  • #7198
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Strazdas wrote: »
    It's a good question ; one would assume though that if we're down to zero new cases a day, it would be very difficult for the virus to reinfect thousands of people across the country again. It had the element of surprise last time but no more.
    That is an absurd thing to say about a virus which doesn't show symptoms for up to two weeks. Its main advantage is that asymptomatic people shed the virus a lot in the early stages of infection. That's its "element of surprise". You're surely posting in these threads long enough to know that we did have advance warning because of the situation in China and it is still spreading totally out of control a month after it arrived here.

    There will only be zero cases a day when it has infected everyone, or in the unlikely event that we finally manage to vaccinate against a coronavirus, or when everyone is dead.


  • #7199
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    The PPE situation was disappointing to hear . We use Kimberly - Clark masks in work , top grade but I would say they are impossible to get now - they are actually made in Mexico.


  • #7200
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Good article in NYT for those interested in the ROK's approach to tackiing COVID-19.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/world/asia/coronavirus-south-korea-flatten-curve.html


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  • #7201
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    marno21 wrote: »
    A good point here from Tony H today

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/coronavirus-ireland-dr-tony-holohan-21803715

    Now that the lockdown is in full effect, and the contacts from new cases is down to a few, the disease is now transmitted in households rather than in the community.

    As a result, it'll take a few weeks for all new isolating cases to transmit the virus to the other members of their household. Community transmission is fairly limited with all the social distancing and quarantine measures. Obviously there will be exceptions such as healthcare workers, frontline staff etc.

    But it does paint a good picture for a few weeks time, when affected households will have had the virus run its course within the house and inter household transmission has been cut to a minimum.

    The big question is what happens when restrictions start easing.

    No we can't be positive. People went walking on the beach 2 weekends ago and I seen a guy run close to a person in the park yesterday so we're going to be like Italy next week.


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