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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #6032
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    snotboogie wrote: »
    A mask will probably help to reduce your odds of catching the virus, a mask will definitely reduce your odds of passing on the virus, even if you don't know you have it.
    As do washing hands, not touching your face and social distancing.


  • #6033
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Tanner Cold Needlepoint wrote: »
    I read Milton kills corona so assumed all their products did hence why I have been using the spray (which says bleach free and assumed it was the same stuff as the sterilising fluid).

    I’d assume though that if wiping with simple soap clears it away that wiping with a disinfectant spray would too though despite it not officially killing it.

    The spray does not have the same ingredients as the sterilising fluid. As for the antiviral properties of the spray, it depends on what the ingredients are and on how they act on the pathogen. Soapy water (in this case) kills off the virus because it breaks down the fatty "shell" around it - soap is a degreaser. I'm not sure how the spray operates, but if it did kill viruses it would say so on the label. It may not have de-greasing properties.

    It's not safe to assume anything, especially with something this dangerous.


  • #6034
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MOR316 wrote: »
    People who look like that are usually ones out to try and nab your girlfriend/wife

    Was there other tweets to go with this one? Why are people assuming he's talking about ireland?

    Sorry quoted the wrong post, I'm talking about the web summit bloke


  • #6035
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    You really think so? A lot of businesses won't reopen after this is all over.

    I think ownership of businesses may change hands due to cash flow issues, but the demand for goods and services will bounce back; especially in the hospitality sector where most of the job losses have been.

    We’ll see a lot of the chains buying up these smaller independent businesses.


  • #6036
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    I think ownership of businesses may change hands due to cash flow issues, but the demand for goods and services will bounce back; especially in the hospitality sector where most of the job losses have been.

    We’ll see a lot of the chains buying up these smaller independent businesses.
    Recessions are used by business to let go of staff whether they need to or not. Theres an assumption that there will be a high spike in demand and business cannot survive this without their staff. I very much doubt that. Restrictions will be lifted gradually, there isnt going to be a bounce back to the boom times.

    It could also be the final nail in the coffin for bricks and mortar as everyone will have learnt how to shop online efficiently by the end of this.


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  • #6037
    Bob24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    josip wrote: »
    An RT report about something that supposedly happened in China?
    It doesn't get much more unreliable than that.

    As I said it was confirmed by a French politician and I quoted one of the multiple reports in French national media (this particular one from the French public broadcaster). Are you saying those are also unaware of what is happening to French goods?

    Provided the RT link as the first English version of the report I found on google.

    I am of course open to correction and news reports can be incorrect. But cherrypicking RT amongst the multiple sources to call the news unreliable doesn't seem like a very convincing argument to me TBH.

    And here is another source in English which pop-up since my first post (public funded French international news radio station): http://www.rfi.fr/en/europe/20200402-china-coronavirus-face-mask-france-stolen-us


  • #6038
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Has anyone listened to David McWilliams latest podcast. He was explining how the negative interest rates work. He was basically saying that the central bank in Ireland has been doing a terrible job and the point of the ECB's rate cut was to put money in people's pockets. How they do this is with the dramatic rate cut so banks in Ireland could cut peoples mortgage rate to 1.25% and still earn 2% interest.

    None of the banks have signaled that this will be passed on and the central back hasn't opened its mouth. Now is surely the time to pass this on.


  • #6039
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Has anyone listened to David McWilliams latest podcast. He was explining how the negative interest rates work. He was basically saying that the central bank in Ireland has been doing a terrible job and the point of the ECB's rate cut was to put money in people's pockets. How they do this is with the dramatic rate cut so banks in Ireland could cut peoples mortgage rate to 1.25% and still earn 2% interest.

    None of the banks have signaled that this will be passed on and the central back hasn't opened its mouth. Now is surely the time to pass this on.
    Banks returning the favour after we bailed them out?? Unlikely.


  • #6040
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Has anyone listened to David McWilliams latest podcast. He was explining how the negative interest rates work. He was basically saying that the central bank in Ireland has been doing a terrible job and the point of the ECB's rate cut was to put money in people's pockets. How they do this is with the dramatic rate cut so banks in Ireland could cut peoples mortgage rate to 1.25% and still earn 2% interest.

    None of the banks have signaled that this will be passed on and the central back hasn't opened its mouth. Now is surely the time to pass this on.
    Did he bother to mention the cost to banks of tracker mortgages? That has a whole lot more to do with the overall picture.


  • #6041
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    of course they have not, banks run the country end if story. same all over the world.


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  • #6042
    snowgal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭snowgal


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Has anyone listened to David McWilliams latest podcast. He was explining how the negative interest rates work. He was basically saying that the central bank in Ireland has been doing a terrible job and the point of the ECB's rate cut was to put money in people's pockets. How they do this is with the dramatic rate cut so banks in Ireland could cut peoples mortgage rate to 1.25% and still earn 2% interest.

    None of the banks have signaled that this will be passed on and the central back hasn't opened its mouth. Now is surely the time to pass this on.

    ugghhhhhh, I really HATE the banks! the most selfish 'business' in the world. They are so greedy and genuinely anger me so much. I cant understand why there is not more uproar from people about them. They are doing nothing, nothing decent for people through this. And they should be to the fore in helping, after all we did to help them a decade ago. Any offers they give will only be more profit for them in the end. Greed!
    sorry rant over now!!!


  • #6043
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    I think ownership of businesses may change hands due to cash flow issues, but the demand for goods and services will bounce back; especially in the hospitality sector where most of the job losses have been.

    We’ll see a lot of the chains buying up these smaller independent businesses.
    Don't foresee any recovery in international tourism this year, and probably only at a very reduced level in '21.

    Why would large chains buy up smaller independent businesses, which are essentially very much targeted on tighter market segments?

    Believe it much more likely they'd seek to buy up defaulted leases to improve their footfall positioning where possible.


  • #6044
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Maybe a stupid question but the politicians are starting to squabble again.


    Have any of them taken a pay cut?


  • #6045
    Juwwi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    is_that_so wrote: »
    As do washing hands, not touching your face and social distancing.

    What is your big fear about masks .

    Will you stop this nonsense every day , masks are being recommended now ,WHO are thinking about changing their advice about masks .

    If you don't want to wear one fine but leave people to wear one if they want to and stop posting bad advice .


  • #6046
    d51984
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭d51984


    Anyone wake up to a few bags of shopping on their doorstep this morning? D5 Area, few houses on road got stuff. Was just wondering who its from so we can thank them.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • #6047
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    17% Unemployment rate

    construction and everything connected with it since Friday not included in that number


  • #6048
    Summer2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    They’re trying to soften us up for longer term restrictions , it’s very obvious. This community care thing that’s being rolled out nationwide is certainly not for the short term. Elderly and vulnerable likely to be cocooned for 3 months minimum , with everyone else gradually getting back to normal in 3-4 weeks time is my guess


  • #6049
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,646 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    They’re trying to soften us up for longer term restrictions , it’s very obvious. This community care thing that’s being rolled out nationwide is certainly not for the short term. Elderly and vulnerable likely to be cocooned for 3 months minimum , with everyone else gradually getting back to normal in 3-4 weeks time is my guess

    I reckon it'll be early maybe before restrictions will be softened


  • #6050
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    jackboy wrote: »
    A bit of washing up liquid in warm water will kill the virus nicely. No need for the fancy stuff.

    Yes, plain soap breaks down the outer fatty wall of the virus, thus killing them.


  • #6051
    Rattlehead_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Rattlehead_ie


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    If you want your wifi fixed, go to PC,
    otherwise he's best ignored
    We would be the last person I would go to on Wifi, I mean the very last person EVER! :D:D:D


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  • #6052
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Some tests are now being sent abroad to be completed so testing results may start to come through quicker.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/reagents-testing-pharma-5064565-Apr2020/


  • #6053
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    saabsaab wrote: »
    That's fine but I've read that microwaves aren't enough to kill it. I guess the heat of water vapour if over 60C should kill it though.

    40 seconds has all the water in the sponge at more like 100° C. It's just over kill on my part, the detergent should have been enough to kill the virus anyway.


  • #6054
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    MipMap wrote: »
    Maybe a stupid question but the politicians are starting to squabble again.


    Have any of them taken a pay cut?
    No, they work on a mutually agreed upward-only revision basis.

    Have always believed that their remuneration levels should be based on fixed (low) ratios of average industrial wage, not on the current incestious relationship with Civil Service pay levels under PSSA.


  • #6055
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    They’re trying to soften us up for longer term restrictions , it’s very obvious. This community care thing that’s being rolled out nationwide is certainly not for the short term. Elderly and vulnerable likely to be cocooned for 3 months minimum , with everyone else gradually getting back to normal in 3-4 weeks time is my guess

    That what I think will happen. But I can also imagine the reaction of the average elderly Irish citizen when asked to stay inside for 3 months.....


  • #6056
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    The majority of the job losses will be temporary.

    You can’t say that with any confidence


  • #6057
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    snotboogie wrote: »
    A mask will probably help to reduce your odds of catching the virus, a mask will definitely reduce your odds of passing on the virus, even if you don't know you have it.
    And the last part is hugely important.
    While I do not have stats to back it up, I figure that a sizeable portion of transmissions are from asymptomatic carriers. A mask would make a huge difference to transmission rates. Unfortunately due to the shortage in Ireland, the government is trying to persuade us that they are not necessary for the majority.

    Every person in this country should be receiving free masks ..... like they do in other countries. The government failed in its forecasting in both sourcing the masks externally and/or producing them within the country.


  • #6058
    Pencil Neck
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭Pencil Neck


    d51984 wrote: »
    Anyone wake up to a few bags of shopping on their doorstep this morning? D5 Area, few houses on road got stuff. Was just wondering who its from so we can thank them.

    Ffs! How would anyone here know that?

    It sounds like a mis-delivery. Don’t use the food as it’s likely for an aged or infirm person.


  • #6059
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,425 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Some tests are now being sent abroad to be completed so testing results may start to come through quicker.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/reagents-testing-pharma-5064565-Apr2020/

    I was reading that Germany have been taking similar measures, even sending tests to many veterinary labs in order to speed up the process.


  • #6060
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    17% Unemployment rate

    construction and everything connected with it since Friday not included in that number

    That is catastrophic


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  • #6061
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,096 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    They are ramping up mendacious stupidity as we speak

    https://twitter.com/KDKA/status/1245353362515787778


    Darwin will work well with this one.


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