CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

lawred2 · 02-04-2020 11:28AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

A 6 week old baby died in America. A 13 year old died in the UK, a 16 year old died in France. A 42 year old died in Ireland (going by what another poster said here yesterday).

I think there will be deaths of all ages and not just the old.

Why are you posting this? Everyone knows this. It is undisputed that there have been and will be deaths of all ages. But the weighting in the various age groupings leans far more to the elderly age cohorts.

You're just posting hysterics.

BattleCorp · 02-04-2020 11:28AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The majority of the job losses will be temporary.

You really think so? A lot of businesses won't reopen after this is all over.

Sam Russell · 02-04-2020 11:29AM

Tanner Cold Needlepoint wrote: »

I think people are underestimating what testing is telling us.

Even if our testing looks low we are doing much more targeted testing and are testing similar numbers every day. If our positive tests stay around the same it shows that its not spreading wildly as if the overall number of positives is increasing but the daily numbers are not shooting up then clearly things are being contained.

As has been pointed out many times, testing is for the benefit of the public health policy setting. People who are sick - whether from Covid19 or other ailments will receive full medical responses.

Important lessons are being learnt - eg the number of contacts each positive has is reducing from 20 to 5 to 3. Also, the medical staff are getting infected from sources outside work.

So testing is not for the sole benefit of those being tested.

If you do not want to be infected - wash you hands properly, stay at home, and keep away from everyone else - they may be infected and so might you.

gozunda · 02-04-2020 11:30AM

Tanner Cold Needlepoint wrote: »

I think people are underestimating what testing is telling us.

Even if our testing looks low we are doing much more targeted testing and are testing similar numbers every day. If our positive tests stay around the same it shows that its not spreading wildly as if the overall number of positives is increasing but the daily numbers are not shooting up then clearly things are being contained.

Nothing to do with current rates of testing. There is increasing evidence that asymptomatic and early onset cases are a significant risk of infecting others.

It is known that the spread of infection can be reduced by the infected wearing masks However we dont know who those people are.

As much as hand washing - we need to do start using masks . Now.

New Home · 02-04-2020 11:32AM

Tanner Cold Needlepoint wrote: »

Milton is the job for this type of thing. Especially their sprays and no danger from them like bleach.

I don't see leaving stuff for 72 hours as practical, we are getting a delivery every 5 to 7 days, we are very low on everything once it arrives and need a lot of the stuff straight away.

Milton sterilising liquid is bleach (sodium hypochlorite) based. Still, it doesn't kill viruses on contact:

Virucidal: in 15 minutes NF T72-180. Effective on Rotavirus and Coronavirus.

As for the disinfectant sprays, I've just looked at their website: it says it's an Antibacterial Surface Spray, it does not kill viruses.

is_that_so · 02-04-2020 11:33AM

lawred2 wrote: »

Why are you posting this? Everyone knows this. It is undisputed that there have been and will be deaths of all ages. But the weighting in the various age groupings leans far more to the elderly age cohorts.

You're just posting hysterics.

TBF some posters are having a very hard time with this and you might want to consider cutting posts like that some slack. Treat it as one of the many of the posts we read but don't respond to.

cnocbui · 02-04-2020 11:36AM

Stateofyou wrote: »

When it comes to cleaning groceries from the shop, what's best to use? We have some Dettol wipes, but have thick bleach also, could use instead. Actually, what is the difference between thick/thin bleach?
Should we just use soapy water and a cloth?

I just use detergent and a sponge and then nuke the sponge in the microwave for 40 seconds. Detergents can neutralize viruses because they break them open by attacking their lipid coats.

irishgeo · 02-04-2020 11:36AM

BattleCorp wrote: »

You really think so? A lot of businesses won't reopen after this is all over.

Some not alot.

I do think a credit on public liability insurance should be given.

walshb · 02-04-2020 11:38AM

Does anyone believe that we will get up to 10000 tests per day by mid April?

jackboy · 02-04-2020 11:38AM

New Home wrote: »

Milton sterilising liquid is bleach (sodium hypochlorite) based. Still, it doesn't kill viruses on contact:

As for the disinfectant sprays, I've just looked at their website: it says it's an AntibacterialSurface Spray, it does not kill viruses[/B].

A bit of washing up liquid in warm water will kill the virus nicely. No need for the fancy stuff.

is_that_so · 02-04-2020 11:41AM

walshb wrote: »

Does anyone believe that we will get up to 10000 tests per day by mid April?

Mid-April is just two weeks away so no probably not. Once we get past that 7-10 day delay one would assume it will be able to ramp up.

lawred2 · 02-04-2020 11:41AM

is_that_so wrote: »

TBF some posters are having a very hard time with this and you might want to consider cutting posts like that some slack. Treat it as one of the many of the posts we read but don't respond to.

Others will read it won't they? And it might feed into their sense of unease.. worsening it.

I think it's appropriate to call out hysterics as such.

02-04-2020 11:43AM

New Home wrote: »

Milton sterilising liquid is bleach (sodium hypochlorite) based. Still, it doesn't kill viruses on contact:

As for the disinfectant sprays, I've just looked at their website: it says it's an Antibacterial Surface Spray, it does not kill viruses.

I read Milton kills corona so assumed all their products did hence why I have been using the spray (which says bleach free and assumed it was the same stuff as the sterilising fluid).

I’d assume though that if wiping with simple soap clears it away that wiping with a disinfectant spray would too though despite it not officially killing it.

ednwireland · 02-04-2020 11:44AM

jackboy wrote: »

A bit of washing up liquid in warm water will kill the virus nicely. No need for the fancy stuff.

why soap kills coronavirus
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

smelly sock · 02-04-2020 11:45AM

What a dickhead.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/web-summit-founder-paddy-cosgrave-urged-to-apologise-over-rubbished-four-nurses-dead-tweet-39096144.html

Tony EH · 02-04-2020 11:45AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

And we were thinking of sending student nurses into danger without pay...
Anyone know how much they are being paid now ?

As much as we all want to say that FG etc are doing a "good" job with this Corona situation. The above needs to constantly act as a reminder what the situation was before this pandemic hit and how government were of little help and in many cases, an actual hindrance.

Perhaps this is the sea change that's needed regarding government attitude to front line healthcare staff and their needs.

I won't hold my breath though.

brwh11 · 02-04-2020 11:45AM

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Here's a Death graph of Ireland and the Scandinavian countries (plus Spain who are on the worst European trajectory)

what is the source site for this graph?

Kermit.de.frog · 02-04-2020 11:46AM

marno21 wrote: »

Tony H is back at work

https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1245640109711486977

Fantastic news. Great to see him recovered

Terrible news

Big figures coming

Tony doesn't get out of bed for 212 cases

02-04-2020 11:46AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The majority of the job losses will be temporary.

Only if the lockdown doesnt last too long. Once we start moving through May and into June, with this level of lockdown I think that 'temporary' will look less and less likely to be the case

MOR316 · 02-04-2020 11:47AM

smelly sock wrote: »

What a dickhead.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/web-summit-founder-paddy-cosgrave-urged-to-apologise-over-rubbished-four-nurses-dead-tweet-39096144.html

People who look like that are usually ones out to try and nab your girlfriend/wife

Pulsating Star · 02-04-2020 11:49AM

Gynoid wrote: »

Funny how this situation can affect the psyche. Usually if I have a bad dream the bad stuff would be fairly dramatic, being chased by unknown evil doers, a rising sea blocking me in, walking on a narrow ledge high up, that kind of thing. Had a bad dream last night. Was just walking down a nondescript street. And people kept passing me by too closely! One even rubbed off of me. Aaaarrgghhhh!

Was quite anxious the first week of the shutdown and remember waking up after bad dreams a number of times, to the realization that the daytime nightmare was so much worse! I found that really freaky at the time.

Thelonious Monk · 02-04-2020 11:49AM

I don't get all the calls for masks for everyone. Sure if you have to be around other people at work but those of us who are staying at home and not seeing anyone outside the household except when going to the shops, surely the chances of catching it are next to nothing, mask or not?

saabsaab · 02-04-2020 11:50AM

cnocbui wrote: »

I just use detergent and a sponge and then nuke the sponge in the microwave for 40 seconds. Detergents can neutralize viruses because they break them open by attacking their lipid coats.

That's fine but I've read that microwaves aren't enough to kill it. I guess the heat of water vapour if over 60C should kill it though.

is_that_so · 02-04-2020 11:50AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Terrible news

Big figures coming

Tony doesn't get out of bed for 212 cases

Amazing the panic one man down causes!:p

snotboogie · 02-04-2020 11:50AM

Tony EH wrote: »

As much as we all want to say that FG etc are doing a "good" job with this Corona situation. The above needs to constantly act as a reminder what the situation was before this pandemic hit and how government were of little help and in many cases, an actual hindrance.

Perhaps this is the sea change that's needed regarding government attitude to front line healthcare staff and their needs.

I won't hold my breath though.

The HSE gets 17.5 billion, per year, from the Irish government. Maybe we should look at the HSE and actually see where the spend is being allocated to rather than the same tired lazy political back and forth which has got us nowhere since the establishment of the unified health service.

snotboogie · 02-04-2020 11:52AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I don't get all the calls for masks for everyone. Sure if you have to be around other people at work but those of us who are staying at home and not seeing anyone outside the household except when going to the shops, surely the chances of catching it are next to nothing, mask or not?

A mask will probably help to reduce your odds of catching the virus, a mask will definitely reduce your odds of passing on the virus, even if you don't know you have it.

citytillidie · 02-04-2020 11:52AM

MadYaker wrote: »

The UK media in general have been an absolute disgrace throughout this. Both the tabloids and the guardian. Stoking fear and spreading panic. We whinge about RTE (for good reason) but they’ve done ok here getting the info out in a factual manner and not trying to terrify people.

Then you read these threads and it is all fear and panic

ednwireland · 02-04-2020 11:53AM

smelly sock wrote: »

What a dickhead.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/web-summit-founder-paddy-cosgrave-urged-to-apologise-over-rubbished-four-nurses-dead-tweet-39096144.html

amazing how some people just cant stop themselves !

Harry Palmr · 02-04-2020 11:56AM

smelly sock wrote: »

What a dickhead.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/web-summit-founder-paddy-cosgrave-urged-to-apologise-over-rubbished-four-nurses-dead-tweet-39096144.html

Yep he is, hard to ascertain his reasons for this campaign given it's essentially based on firing out fact and proof free statements. Is he still angry at Fine Girl for not prostrating itself and the DCC at the feet of his web summit jamboree?

In other news Eddie Large is the latest well known (ish) name/face to have been claimed by Covid 19, again old with a poor heart.

bennyl10 · 02-04-2020 11:56AM

smelly sock wrote: »

What a dickhead.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/web-summit-founder-paddy-cosgrave-urged-to-apologise-over-rubbished-four-nurses-dead-tweet-39096144.html

and we'd people on this thread sharing him like he was any kind of source.

If you want your wifi fixed, go to PC,
otherwise he's best ignored

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP