Is it just me or have SF vanished?

storker · 02-04-2020 11:39AM

Runaways wrote: »

I do. Loads of it.

*Gestures broadly at this very thread*

They might just be doing it for free.

02-04-2020 11:39AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Last night there was NO Capacity in the industry. Read what posters were saying and production could not be easily switched.

This AM we see that there is capacity...with a company 'waiting' for contracts to be signed to step up production and another one 'switching production'.

Are there more? Who knows unless someone (maybe a 'politician'?) asks and keeps asking the questions. Which is kinda the job of an opposition spokesperson for a particular department, EVEN if it might embarrass/discomfort/or remind your party.

Really? No capacity?

The point last night was these things can't be ramped up overnight.

joeguevara · 02-04-2020 11:39AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The man who proposed it,john concannon was rehired

Its not beyond realms of possibilty its true....idk if it is or not,but i wouldnt dismiss it out of hand or rubbish it either

See, this makes sense and is a measured post. A poster stating that journalists of note are investigating it, but then can’t back it up and then states they have loads of evidence of said bots on this thread is not.

FrancieBrady · 02-04-2020 11:40AM

tikkahunter wrote: »

A lot of us in the same boat , our roles deem us critical so unless we get the virus we have to go in and keep producing- I think that’s stepping up to the plate which is what Makes my blood boil with her comments. No mention of the employees that have to risk their health and families health by going in every day just idiotic comments about us stepping up to the plate.

Why do you think she was talking about 'essential workers' in the pharma industry?

Where are you getting this from?

02-04-2020 11:41AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why do you think she was talking about 'essential workers' in the pharma industry?

Where are you getting this from?

Out of the loop on this one, what did SF say about phamra industry? Couldn't find anything on google.

Sultan_of_Ping · 02-04-2020 11:42AM

Ballso wrote: »

Did yous clear this approach with Francie?

No, that's why I'm being deliberately coy about where I work (actually where I work is from home at moment)....but I'd imagine who I work for should be easy to find out....we're the ones without oceans of reagent flowing off the site....:D

Mortelaro · 02-04-2020 11:44AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Last night there was NO Capacity in the industry. Read what posters were saying and production could not be easily switched.

This AM we see that there is capacity...with a company 'waiting' for contracts to be signed to step up production and another one 'switching production'.

Are there more? Who knows unless someone (maybe a 'politician'?) asks and keeps asking the questions. Which is kinda the job of an opposition spokesperson for a particular department, EVEN if it might embarrass/discomfort/or remind your party.

I asked you to quote one post that you say was there last night saying there was no capacity or it couldn't be done
You're well able to go back a few years a few mins ago to find examples of you using the word invective
I'm waiting

Ballso · 02-04-2020 11:45AM

Runaways wrote: »

I do. Loads of it.

*Gestures broadly at this very thread*

Where do we collect the cheques for this mate? I'm just waiting for this and my check from George Soros to clear and I'll be quids in yeow

Sultan_of_Ping · 02-04-2020 11:45AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why do you think she was talking about 'essential workers' in the pharma industry?

Where are you getting this from?

Who are the "essential workers" would you say in the pharma industry?

Shefwedfan · 02-04-2020 11:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The man who proposed it,john concannon was rehired

Its not beyond realms of possibilty its true....idk if it is or not,but i wouldnt dismiss it out of hand or rubbish it either

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/taoiseach-brings-back-communications-guru-for-covid-19-public-campaign-39054064.html

I do like a source.

He was hired to deal with the Covid-19 virus. Not put "finbots" on boards.

I think this is the bit people are referring to "He also served as head of the Government's Strategic Communications Unit, which was wound down in 2018"

Two years later and some people are still waffling about it

FrancieBrady · 02-04-2020 11:48AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

I asked you to quote one post that you say was there last night saying there was no capacity or it couldn't be done
You're well able to go back a few years a few mins ago to find examples of you using the word invective
I'm waiting

Deleted User wrote:

The idea a plant that makes one pharma product could just transfer to making "tests" or some different product is so ignorant it's nearly beyond description.

Here is a post completely rubbished by what the Irish Times reported on this AM.

Lads/Lassies...seriously, you are all out on this one, again.

Pharma, just like everyone else can 'step up'.

Ballso · 02-04-2020 11:52AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Here is a post completely rubbished by what the Irish Times reported on this AM.

Lads/Lassies...seriously, you are all out on this one, again.

Pharma, just like everyone else can 'step up'.

Everyone? If this the Sinn Fein "everyone" - e.g. "Everyone else". What are you doing to step up?

02-04-2020 11:53AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Here is a post completely rubbished by what the Irish Times reported on this AM.

Lads/Lassies...seriously, you are all out on this one, again.

Pharma, just like everyone else can 'step up'.

Nice try FB, you really went for it.

However, that post doesn't mean it can't be done, just means it can't be done like flicking a switch, which has been the point all along.

Sultan_of_Ping · 02-04-2020 11:53AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Here is a post completely rubbished by what the Irish Times reported on this AM.

Lads/Lassies...seriously, you are all out on this one, again.

Pharma, just like everyone else can 'step up'.

Yeah, that's spot on - just because two things are described as "pharma products" it doesn't mean they are inter-changeable. It doesn't even mean that because one is safe to consume, it follows that all are safe to consume.

Also, something else you fail to grasp is that if everyone piles into producing something not will only will quality vary wildly, but the potential for counterfeiting and fraud will sky-rocket - which will itself feedback into the system by meaning more verification testing is required, which will greatly slow the flow of products the market, generating significant unusable stockpiles.

FrancieBrady · 02-04-2020 11:53AM

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Who are the "essential workers" would you say in the pharma industry?

Here's a list of some of the companies operating in Ireland. I am sure there are some employees here that are working on non 'essential' items.

What do you reckon?

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/careers/biotech-pharma-companies-ireland

FrancieBrady · 02-04-2020 11:55AM

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Yeah, that's spot on - just because two things are described as "pharma products" it doesn't mean they are inter-changeable. It doesn't even mean that because one is safe to consume, it follows that all are safe to consume.

Also, something else you fail to grasp is that if everyone piles into producing something not will only will quality vary wildly, but the potential for counterfeiting and fraud will sky-rocket - which will itself feedback into the system by meaning more verification testing is required, which will greatly slow the flow of products the market, generating significant unusable stockpiles.

I am not saying anything here...I quoted the PHARMA INDUSTRY itself saying something. There is a difference you know.

markodaly · 02-04-2020 11:55AM

Runaways wrote: »

I do. Loads of it.

*Gestures broadly at this very thread*

So, show me a post where there is proof that FG have paid for these bots?

Caustion does not equal correlation.

FrancieBrady · 02-04-2020 11:56AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Nice try FB, you really went for it.

However, that post doesn't mean it can't be done, just means it can't be done like flicking a switch, which has been the point all along.

Who claimed at any point that it could be done by flicking a switch? Did you perhaps invent this switch Harvey?

02-04-2020 11:56AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I am not saying anything here...I quoted the PHARMA INDUSTRY itself saying something. There is a difference you know.

Gwan and give the capacity point another go, who said there was no capacity?

Mortelaro · 02-04-2020 11:57AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Here is a post completely rubbished by what the Irish Times reported on this AM.

Lads/Lassies...seriously, you are all out on this one, again.

Pharma, just like everyone else can 'step up'.

'Could just' means the point is cant straight away
Try again
I'm waiting

FrancieBrady · 02-04-2020 11:59AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Gwan and give the capacity point another go, who said there was no capacity?

The very first post on the subject last night says it in figures!

the majority of pharma plants are already 24/7 365

FrancieBrady · 02-04-2020 12:01PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

'Could just' means the point is cant straight away
Try again
I'm waiting

WHO said anything about 'flicking switches'...'straight away'..morte?

02-04-2020 12:02PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who claimed at any point that it could be done by flicking a switch? Did you perhaps invent this switch Harvey?

So, you agree it will take time to do? Great, we're making progress.

The reality remains, as you have been told repeatedly, it's not that the companies can't do it, it's that they can't do it quickly.

Mortelaro · 02-04-2020 12:03PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nice try FB, you really went for it.

However, that post doesn't mean it can't be done, just means it can't be done like flicking a switch, which has been the point all along.

He is trying to suggest 'just' in the post he quoted isnt short for 'just like that' which is another anachronism for 'clicking your fingers'
Who needs shovels

02-04-2020 12:04PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The very first post on the subject last night says it in figures!

You know majority doesn't mean all?

Ballso · 02-04-2020 12:04PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

WHO said anything about 'flicking switches'...'straight away'..morte?

Hey Francie you seem to have ignored me when I asked what you are doing to step up? What are you contributing? You seem to be able to give direction to literally everyone else from government, to the HSE, to pharma and manufacturing. Your own contribution must be incredible?

Sultan_of_Ping · 02-04-2020 12:04PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I am not saying anything here...I quoted the PHARMA INDUSTRY itself saying something. There is a difference you know.

You took a quote completely out of context, stripped it of all meaning and tried to warp it to your own agenda.

I'm not sure what your background is but I'll bet it's not pharmaceuticals, life sciences or medical devices - or, I'll wager, it's not any kind of modern manufacturing or production.

It's a very complicated area, and the only thing I really know is that I know enough to know to stay in my own very narrow area of expertise - there's maybe a lesson in that

FrancieBrady · 02-04-2020 12:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So, you agree it will take time to do? Great, we're making progress.

The reality remains, as you have been told repeatedly, it's not that the companies can't do it, it's that they can't do it quickly.

:D:D Trying to eek out a wee victory Harvey.

I never said anything, anything at all about 'time frame'.

Fook right off with that pivot.

Sultan_of_Ping · 02-04-2020 12:06PM

Ballso wrote: »

Hey Francie you seem to have ignored me when I asked what you are doing to step up? What are you contributing? You seem to be able to give direction to literally everyone else from government, to the HSE, to pharma and manufacturing. Your own contribution must be incredible?

A vaccine can only be hours away.....

FrancieBrady · 02-04-2020 12:07PM

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

You took a quote completely out of context, stripped it of all meaning and tried to warp it to your own agenda.

I'm not sure what your background is but I'll bet it's not pharmaceuticals, life sciences or medical devices - or, I'll wager, it's not any kind of modern manufacturing or production.

It's a very complicated area, and the only thing I really know is that I know enough to know to stay in my own very narrow area of expertise - there's maybe a lesson in that

Out of context? WTF What the absolute f*** is wrong with you lot?

How much clearer..in context could the following be?

Ireland’s pharmaceutical industry has indicated it is gearing up to produce key ingredients for Covid-19 testing which the State is struggling to source on the international market.

The industry could produce enough reagent – a key laboratory ingredient which is in short supply – to enable around 500,000 tests to take place, said Matt Moran, director of the pharmaceutical industry lobby group BioPharmaChem Ireland.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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