CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Loafing Oaf · 01-04-2020 10:53AM

ITman88 wrote: »

Well will relax restrictions on the 12th of April, from then maintain social distance etc, no way the 2km restriction from your home will be adhered to much longer.
Social distance will stay for a while, pubs and restaurants will need to try and reopen late April and send kids to school, life must go on

paw patrol wrote: »

I think he makes a fair point , but we'll be back to normal before those dates

We can't afford the current situation and people will get restless. The common good mantra will only work so long before public order will breakdown.
Lives need to be lived and people will only be content to live on 350e for so long

scamalert wrote: »

at least someone not hysteric or delusional totally agree end of April should see us back to slow re-open and some sort of normalcy.

for those who ask why end of April, its simple 2 weeks now is more the enough that has been done, and if theres no manageable decline after next 2 weeks its pointless to put any more restrictions in place as it will just irritate people and seriously impact where employment income is concerned for most.

Permission to quote these posts again if we are still in total lockdown in a month's time?

MrMusician18 · 01-04-2020 10:54AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

So if i'm putting the boot into FF, FG, SF, and now the SD. What political party am I scoring points for?? :rolleyes:

Only you know what your logic is.

I don't have the time nor the inclination to find out.

Professor Moriarty · 01-04-2020 10:55AM

Akabusi wrote: »

Totally correct, I had it and just when we thought we were clear of it, my son developed symptoms. There is the possibility in the next two weeks that the one of the other three kids and wife develop symptoms (or simply get it and don't show symptoms). For my wife, the self isolation continues, I at least can now go to the shop and get the groceries.

Is that official advice?

owlbethere · 01-04-2020 10:55AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

If everyone who arrived was quarantined at the airport for 14 days there would have been no significant spread here. Allowing new arrivals to spend their 'self isolation' with their families is just a recipe for further spread at home.

Trying to justify an 'open door' policy now is just plain reckless with the public's health, no matter how badly we have managed it in the past

Trusting the population with self isolation was disasterous too. I have first hand experience of someone who says they will continue going to the shop if they need to self isolate (instead of doing a bit of a stock pile shop).

Some people will do what is required and others not. Also, natives arriving into the country may not have any fresh milk and other food at home and are likely to stop at a shop for supplies.

voluntary · 01-04-2020 10:58AM

is_that_so wrote: »

They've said no to this based on evidence but you can wear one if you choose.

The evidence was - there's a massive shortage of masks. So better reserve the remaining ones for the people who need them most.

whiskeyman · 01-04-2020 10:58AM

https://twitter.com/alexralph/status/1245257988979515393?s=19

Not an April fools!!

The company that ruined millions of lungs worldwide may be working to save them...

gabeeg · 01-04-2020 10:59AM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Only you know what your logic is.

I don't have the time nor the inclination to find out.

Or the ability.

This insistence that any criticism levelled at the gov is simply for political point scoring is dull as ****.

Away With The Fairies · 01-04-2020 10:59AM

whiskeyman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alexralph/status/1245257988979515393?s=19

Not an April fools!!

The company that ruined millions of lungs worldwide may be working to save them...

Can you come back and post this tomorrow, I might believe you then.

tobefrank321 · 01-04-2020 11:00AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

yes lockdowns long term seem to fail, thats why they need to start with the test test test approach, but at least in Spain they don't seem arsed about it, they are only testing people in hospital.

My brother in law is a fireman, they are finding bodies in houses that died of covid, but aren't counted as covid deaths.

total ****show

Germany seems to be doing things right.

It was the same in Italy.

Its obvious covid 19 was rampant in Italy before first being diagnosed there and also in Spain. Thousands of cases under the radar by the time they started testing. And also the same here and in the UK. Asymptomatic and mild sufferers have been spreading it for months.

owlbethere · 01-04-2020 11:00AM

john4321 wrote: »

PUBLISHED: 08:24, Wed, Apr 1, 2020

It's no time for April fools jokes around this Covid-19.

paw patrol · 01-04-2020 11:01AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Permission to quote these posts again if we are still in total lockdown in a month's time?

sure!
cos if we are - I'll be lamenting the situation and you can kick me when i'm down.:pac:

I just don't think we can afford to be in lockdown come 1st may financially or by other metrics.

we will see.

Ace2007 · 01-04-2020 11:01AM

whiskeyman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alexralph/status/1245257988979515393?s=19

Not an April fools!!

The company that ruined millions of lungs worldwide may be working to save them...

Regardless of whether an April Fools or not, would you have a vaccine injected into you with only a few months worth of tests, if most vaccines take a year+ to be developed?

It could prevent this virus - but you could develop something far worse that won't be discovered for years to come for instance.

wakka12 · 01-04-2020 11:02AM

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-japan/japan-on-the-brink-as-it-struggles-to-hold-back-coronavirus-idUSKBN21I3LX?utm_source=reddit.com
Japanese medics increasingly worried about potential epidemic in Tokyo

devnull · 01-04-2020 11:04AM

Absolutely scandalous revelations about the UK on Sky News now from Labour MP Peter Kyle.

Care homes are being limited to 5 tests per care home and over 75s who have coronavirus have been told they will not admitted to hospital when they test positive for the virus.

In addition in one care home a number of their residents have been offered do not resuscitate orders and 16 residents have signed them which is happening - apparently these offers are happening en-masse rather than in a thoughtful and caring setting with families.

It does seem that these people are essentially having their lives written off - no wonder the government don't want to include care home deaths and are only reporting hospital death figures!

is_that_so · 01-04-2020 11:04AM

Between 15 and 25 March, new cases in Spain were growing at a rate of 20% a day. From 25 March, however, that rate dropped to 12% according to officials.

caveat emptor · 01-04-2020 11:05AM

whiskeyman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alexralph/status/1245257988979515393?s=19

Not an April fools!!

The company that ruined millions of lungs worldwide may be working to save them...

That is crazy. I thought that was the worst April fools joke ever. Found this about how they developed ebola vaccine. Strange times.

https://time.com/3457472/see-how-ebola-drugs-grow-in-tobacco-leaves/

Akabusi · 01-04-2020 11:08AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Is that official advice?

Yes, I developed symptoms on the 15th March and I'm symptom free for the last 9 days. I can therefore leave the house to buy groceries, which I plan to do tomorrow. Up till now we have been getting our food delivered.

Nollog · 01-04-2020 11:08AM

devnull wrote: »

Absolutely scandalous revelations about the UK on Sky News now from Labour MP Peter Kyle.

Care homes are being limited to 5 tests per care home and over 75s who have coronavirus have been told they will not admitted to hospital when they test positive for the virus.

In addition in one care home a number of their residents have been offered do not resuscitate orders and 16 residents have signed them which is happening - apparently these offers are happening en-masse rather than in a thoughtful and caring setting with families.

It does seem that these people are essentially having their lives written off - no wonder the government don't want to include care home deaths and are only reporting hospital death figures!

We were explained this a month back, it's why theyve been saying "triage" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triage
This is why we're not coughing on our parents/grandparents/inferm

devnull · 01-04-2020 11:08AM

whiskeyman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alexralph/status/1245257988979515393?s=19

Not an April fools!!

The company that ruined millions of lungs worldwide may be working to save them...

Think about it logically, BAT's best customers are their heavy smoking addicts, which are most likely to have lung conditions which puts them at risk of dying.

If a lot of heavy smoking addicts die it will be bad for business, hence a vaccine is top priority for them.

GooglePlus · 01-04-2020 11:09AM

Can't sell cigarettes to the dead, I suppose. A lot of these people kicking the bucket are smokers.

Akrasia · 01-04-2020 11:09AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

Scotland to ban the sale of alcohol during pandemic period, I can see some Scots rioting because of this, stuck in the house and dry. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1262135/alcohol-ban-UK-has-alcohol-been-banned-UK-ban-alcohol-sales-hoax-government-letter

That has to be the most irresponsible article I have seen in a very long time. Its trying to spread a rumour that will cause panic buying of alcohol and could cause crowding in shops that could end up costing lives.

Utterly shameful

Professor Moriarty · 01-04-2020 11:11AM

Akabusi wrote: »

Yes, I developed symptoms on the 15th March and I'm symptom free for the last 9 days. I can therefore leave the house to buy groceries, which I plan to do tomorrow. Up till now we have been getting our food delivered.

Not having a go, just interested. Were you diagnosed? Did your doctor say you were now not infectious or couldn't be reinfected?

Inquitus · 01-04-2020 11:11AM

whiskeyman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alexralph/status/1245257988979515393?s=19

Not an April fools!!

The company that ruined millions of lungs worldwide may be working to save them...

Dead smokers can't smoke!

GooglePlus · 01-04-2020 11:15AM

Inquitus wrote: »

Dead smokers can't smoke!

Unless they bring in an incineration law.

babybuilder · 01-04-2020 11:17AM

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Thinking of an expected timeline:

Cases to peak in the next 2 weeks by 15 April.
Restrictions lifted on travel on May 1st back to what we had before last Friday.
Cases start to reduce until a manageable level around 20th of May.
Schools go back early June & Shops reopen.
Everyone who can work from home continues to do so.
Pubs reopen mid/late June with a rule that they can only let 50% of capacity in

Not a hope

Talisman · 01-04-2020 11:18AM

MadYaker wrote: »

Does anyone know what Tony Holohan (hse chief) means when he says they want to turn it from a community infection to a household one? I heard that in the presser last night.

Before the latest measures, it was primarily spread around communities. Now if people isolate in their homes, the infected people can only infect those they share a home with and in theory the virus will burn out in a few weeks.

Hospitals will only have to deal with extreme cases and should not become overloaded.

bmcc10 · 01-04-2020 11:18AM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-japan/japan-on-the-brink-as-it-struggles-to-hold-back-coronavirus-idUSKBN21I3LX?utm_source=reddit.com
Japanese medics increasingly worried about potential epidemic in Tokyo

There has been a huge shift here past few days. Coincidently it's all after the cancellation of the Olympics.

DevilsHaircut · 01-04-2020 11:20AM

Ger Roe wrote: »

Yes, but tens of thousands of three people groups is still a lot of people that we don't know about. I know it's less of a concern, but not ideal by any means and this whole situation started off with just one person somewhere in China.

Knowing about them is not very important now as long as they isolate with the suspected case, as they are supposed to do.

Those three-people groups will not be spreading to many other people, as their contacts will also be limited to mainly the people they live with (i.e. the same three people).

Doctors room ghost · 01-04-2020 11:21AM

I don’t know how anyone in Ireland can smoke these days with the price of the fcukers.14 euro for 20 smokes.70 fcukin cent a piece.
That’s an expensive hobby and the same ones complaining they have no money then.
God be with the days when you got your 10 fageens for 2 pound or even before it a single and a match for 10pence

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 01-04-2020 11:23AM

babybuilder wrote: »

Not a hope

Any idea why or just want to pretend this will go on forever?

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP